Re: re burning mouth syndrome - Digest Number 6088

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I just read that alpha lipoic acid ALA is a good treatment for burning mouth syndrome.Several people recently have mentioned they or someone they know Barbara Lochner

From: Pat <patinsallcomcast (DOT) net>

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] re joint destruction & Rheumatoid Arthritis

"'barbara lochner'" <blochner2001>, low dose naltrexone

Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 10:30 PM

Barbara,

Even though antibiotics like minocycline or doxycycline have immunolodating properties, I don’t believe they would be considered an immunosuppressing drug such as Enbrel, etc…

I also believe Placquenil , an anti-malaria drug has been used for decades to successfully treat RA is also not considered an immunosupressing drug

Can anyone else confirm that Placquenil can be used with RA. It seems that antibiotics can since Dr Bahari uses AP with LDN for some of his RA patients where the combo works well. I know some RA folks due well with just LDN and some good herbals

Hope this helps

Pat

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:lowdosenalt rexone@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of barbara lochner

Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:11 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] re joint destruction & Rheumatoid Arthritis

After I was dx with RA I began to investigate alternatives to RA meds and never went on them. I was looking for a DR who did the Marshall Protocol - The Road Back Foundation, long term low dose antibiotics - when the DR said lets treat the adrenal first...

After I started LDN, my RA began to go away. At that time, my right thumb & index finger were locked, with the joint in my thumb protruding, and my left little finger had doubled in size. Ten months later my thumb and index finger are unlocked. The protrusion is down and so is the size of my little finger. I still have knobs on my wrists but I have lost 8 lbs on LDN and maybe that's why they still look big.

If those meds block your immune system you need to get off them. I think only one RA med does not block - and I don't remember what it is. Am sure others know.

Barbara Lochner

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Re: 6MP LDN anti-TNF

Posted by: "joepye"

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joepye2001

Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:03 am (PST)

Thanks ,

We've had a whirlwind month so I've just been reading the posts...

The immunologist recommended 1000 mg Vit D. so that's been added. "Flirting" with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for, say, 8 months now. Unfortunately, very tough to maintain for a teenager! Your discussion about the role of fats and oils on Candida is interesting. Favorite meal seams to be bacon and eggs so checked cholesterol and is fine. Did not start Flagyl and dropped the Cipro three weeks ago, and taking lots of probiotics (with HSOs) which has been VERY helpful. 4 weeks on LDN, marked improvement in arthritis pain. Seems to have picked up a virus (or two) and has been sick the last two weeks. Checked for Strep and thrush, but okay so far--just taking a long time to recover (also went out late too early and got sicker--again, attributed to "teenager" dilemma).

With being sick the last two weeks, just haven't been able to tell what effect the LDN is having on the Crohn's much yet. But I do see more energy in spite of the "flu". I wondered if this flu is, perhaps, a kind of 'healing crisis'?

Still questioning 6mp issue, but anemia continues to improve and am reluctant to 'jump off that cliff'.

Barbara

>Thanks for that, our oncologist has my wife on 5mg of Folic Acid as well,

>so that's 5800mcg a day she is taking, I will be looking into that

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><http://www.ldndatab ase.com>www.ldndatabase. com

> [low dose naltrexone] high doses of vitamin B12 and Folic Acid

>increase risk of cancer

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>Hi

>Just wanted to bring your attention to relatively new study about Folic

>Acid and Vitamin B12. It seems the same way folic acid supports fast

>growing cells of developing fetus , it supports fast growing cancer cells.

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><http://www.rxlist. com/script/ main/art. asp?articlekey= 107743>http://www.rxlist. com/script/ main/art. asp?articlekey= 107743

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>A lot of us take vitamin B complex as a part or Dr.Berkson protocol. Most

>of b-complexes have at least 800mcg of folic acid, double of what is

>recomended for not pregnant adults. In addition a lot of food in USA

>fortified, adding even more. What actually need to be taken with ALA if I

>understand correctly is only one b-vitamin,Biotin which does not seem to

>be causing problem. May be we should just supplement with Biotin and treat

>the rest of b-vitamins like vitamin D. Check the level, if low supplement,

>if normal not supplement. Any thoughts about it?

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thanks for all the good wishes.

Posted by: "Kinga Barwig"

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Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:09 pm (PST)

I appreciate all the responses to my pregnancy story. This will be difficult for months to come, but will pass. I need to learn to make the most of the time that I will have to spend with my two wonderful boys, rather than feel depressed. Eventually.

Thanks

Kinga

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ldn and dr.bruce cree trial

Posted by: "emilnari"

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emilnari

Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:28 am (PST)

have anybody read the results of the trial with ldn pubblished on

http://www3. interscience. wiley.com/ journal/12328991 2/abstract? CRETRY=1 & SRETRY=0.

considering that 8 weeks are nothing to performe a trial for ms based on the property to slow or stop progression, many neurologists here in italy use that documents to inform their patients that ldn is not a tratment to be considered to slow or stop the progression, and it is only usefull in case of p.p.ms.to fight simptoms.

i would like to know your point of view on this matter.

my best

emiliano

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