Re: NEUROTOXIN EXPERIENCES?

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In a message dated 6/27/2003 8:53:36 AM Central Daylight Time,

meryhart@... writes:

> I'm wondering if the miserable pin pricks, and feeling like ants are

> crawling on me are the spiroketes dying and releasing the poison Dr.

Burrascano

> refers to. I am trying to locate the medical term for these symptoms, it is

> called farmacations (sp?). This is a pharmacologist's term for medications

> reacting inside a person. What I'm thinking is this; , IF a person did not

have

> the prescription for the binding agent (called cholestyramine, once again on

> Dr. Burrascano's site) that removes these toxins, that are otherwise excreted

> in the bile & RE-absorbed back into our bodies, and cause problems in the

> future, if it's a good idea to take a natural, laxative.

Well the ants crawling has been going on for a while with me and I am not

even on antibiotics till at least Monday.

I know people with Lyme that quit taking antibiotics because it gave them

diahrea and wouldn't you know it most are still sick and suffering for years

now.

I think most everyone gets diahrea in the beginning on oral antibiotics at

least. Not sure about IV's since I never did them. I have always thought that

diahrea during antibiotics was your body trying to get rid of toxins.

A natural laxative occasionally I don't think hurts anyone. It sure makes me

feel better.

Janis

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In a message dated 6/27/2003 10:04:24 AM Central Daylight Time,

meryhart@... writes:

> Do some of them die while reproducing, even without ABX's?

>

I don't know but surely some die from old age I would assume. I am not a

scientist but many things do die right after reproduction. Makes you sort of

wonder about a lot of things.

[Guest guest]

Correction, I mean toxins, not poisons.

[ ] Re: Stonybrook Clin. Lab?? MDL

I was told by a doctor that MDL's tests are not as sensitive or

specific as Igenex, and that it was really not that much better than

most labs. But there must be a reason that so many people have

touted MDL as a Lyme-sensitive lab.

Meanwhile, I also heard that Igenex did a lot of research and

development in Lyme testing because the son of the owner of Igenex

had late-stage Lyme. So there was a personal interest for making the

tests as good as they could be.

I thought the personal connection was an interesting one.

Sagwasmom

[Guest guest]

Do some of them die while reproducing, even without ABX's?

Re: [ ] NEUROTOXIN EXPERIENCES?

In a message dated 6/27/2003 8:53:36 AM Central Daylight Time,

meryhart@... writes:

> I'm wondering if the miserable pin pricks, and feeling like ants are

> crawling on me are the spiroketes dying and releasing the poison Dr.

Burrascano

> refers to. I am trying to locate the medical term for these symptoms, it

is

> called farmacations (sp?). This is a pharmacologist's term for medications

> reacting inside a person. What I'm thinking is this; , IF a person did not

have

> the prescription for the binding agent (called cholestyramine, once again on

> Dr. Burrascano's site) that removes these toxins, that are otherwise

excreted

> in the bile & RE-absorbed back into our bodies, and cause problems in the

> future, if it's a good idea to take a natural, laxative.

Well the ants crawling has been going on for a while with me and I am not

even on antibiotics till at least Monday.

I know people with Lyme that quit taking antibiotics because it gave them

diahrea and wouldn't you know it most are still sick and suffering for years

now.

I think most everyone gets diahrea in the beginning on oral antibiotics at

least. Not sure about IV's since I never did them. I have always thought

that

diahrea during antibiotics was your body trying to get rid of toxins.

A natural laxative occasionally I don't think hurts anyone. It sure makes me

feel better.

Janis

[Guest guest]

That is a very interesting observation, our bodies ridding ourselves of the

neuro-toxins. Very encouraging. However, if it did, this theory of Dr.'s , that

it is re-absorbed, would be invalid.

Re: [ ] NEUROTOXIN EXPERIENCES?

In a message dated 6/27/2003 8:53:36 AM Central Daylight Time,

meryhart@... writes:

> I'm wondering if the miserable pin pricks, and feeling like ants are

> crawling on me are the spiroketes dying and releasing the poison Dr.

Burrascano

> refers to. I am trying to locate the medical term for these symptoms, it

is

> called farmacations (sp?). This is a pharmacologist's term for medications

> reacting inside a person. What I'm thinking is this; , IF a person did not

have

> the prescription for the binding agent (called cholestyramine, once again on

> Dr. Burrascano's site) that removes these toxins, that are otherwise

excreted

> in the bile & RE-absorbed back into our bodies, and cause problems in the

> future, if it's a good idea to take a natural, laxative.

Well the ants crawling has been going on for a while with me and I am not

even on antibiotics till at least Monday.

I know people with Lyme that quit taking antibiotics because it gave them

diahrea and wouldn't you know it most are still sick and suffering for years

now.

I think most everyone gets diahrea in the beginning on oral antibiotics at

least. Not sure about IV's since I never did them. I have always thought

that

diahrea during antibiotics was your body trying to get rid of toxins.

A natural laxative occasionally I don't think hurts anyone. It sure makes me

feel better.

Janis

[Guest guest]

Yes, and KNOWLEDGE truly IS POWER. Happy reading!!!

Re: [ ] NEUROTOXIN EXPERIENCES?

In a message dated 6/27/2003 10:04:24 AM Central Daylight Time,

meryhart@... writes:

> Do some of them die while reproducing, even without ABX's?

>

I don't know but surely some die from old age I would assume. I am not a

scientist but many things do die right after reproduction. Makes you sort of

wonder about a lot of things.

[Guest guest]

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> Well the ants crawling has been going on for a while with me and I am not

> even on antibiotics till at least Monday.

>

> I know people with Lyme that quit taking antibiotics because it gave them

> diahrea

Hi,

My understanding, gathered from several sources, is that antibiotic-induced

diahrrea comes from the imbalance of gut flora when the antibiotics kill

off helpful organisms. That's why we take acidopholus.

My two cents.

Bluesky

[Guest guest]

> Could be but mine usually happens in just the first few days or maybe the

> first week and after that all goes back to normal.

>

> Just my experience though.

>

> Janis

We all have such different experiences, don't we?

I started Mepron last week and felt so sick on it. Waited a few days and

tried again. Not even a Herx. The mucous membranes in my entire body were

irritated and inflamed. Was dizzy, itchy, breathing-altered, etc, etc. And

then the next day I had diahrrea. This was definitely toxins getting out of

the body.

Now I'm on second day of Malarone. Took it once before for three weeks and

didn't notice anything much. Yet one person here tells me how she had big

sweats, chills, etc on Malarone.

We are all different and it's good to hear everyone's stories.

My allergy doctor says he's amazed that I've been able to take any of these

abx's I've been on for almost a whole year now.

Best,

Bluesky

[Guest guest]

I've had that too.......have your folic acid and magnesium levels

checked. Sounds like some nerves misfiring.

Conniek nwnj

When our bodies & minds are out of balance........we suffer!

[Guest guest]

parathesia, or a crawling or tingling sensation under parts of your skin is

part of many peoples experience with lyme.

i have one part of my back that tingles.

probably nerve damage or disruption.

--

best

william meyer

[Guest guest]

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Dr. Burrascano is the person to consult concerning Lyme --that is a

fact. However, the Doctor that found the neurotoxin connection is

actually Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker from Pocomoke City, Md. I know this

because I was part of his clinical trial of the cholestyramine (?), and

the Visual test. This was several years ago, but he actually sent me a

kit to test my visual acuity and we corresponded via phone. He is a

friend of my cousin and they were talking about Lyme one day and he was

talking about his research and she said Hey! I have a cousin who is on

IV's because of Lyme and that is how the connection was made. I even

made it into his book " DEsperate Medicine " . I am not selling anything,

just telling you about my experience. I thought the cholestyramine

helped. I went through an incredible herx as a result of the treatment

(that is before they added the actos to the protocol). My gosh, I

thought I was thrown a year backward! But after the treatment was over,

I really did feel very good. I was still on abx and I am sure I have

built up more neurotoxins and need to use the protocol again. I am not

sure about all the stuff they have on the website because I was not

treated that way. I was treated directly by the Doctor and the web was

not involved at all. If you are near land, you may want to try to

consult with him about the protocol. It would probably be cheaper than

a consult with Dr. B. if cost is your primary concern. And you would be

consulting with the Dr. that developed the protocol. Again, I am not

selling anything. I am just sharing my experience and the results of

that experience.

This website gives further information on the neurotoxins.

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/learnmore/lymedisease.cfm

Hope this helps.

Rhonna

Hall wrote:

>I'm wondering if the miserable pin pricks, and feeling like ants are crawling

on me are the spiroketes dying and releasing the poison Dr. Burrascano refers

to. I am trying to locate the medical term for these symptoms, it is called

farmacations (sp?). This is a pharmacologist's term for medications reacting

inside a person. What I'm thinking is this; , IF a person did not have the

prescription for the binding agent (called cholestyramine, once again on Dr.

Burrascano's site) that removes these toxins, that are otherwise excreted in the

bile & RE-absorbed back into our bodies, and cause problems in the future, if

it's a good idea to take a natural, laxative. He actually recommends 2 to 4

months of this binding agent. I'm wondering if, I could just take it when I feel

this die off occuring. $755.00 for first time appointments w/ this world class

lyme disease expert,who is worth every penny, & is waging big wars for us. I'm

not complaining, just try to avoid, if at all possible.

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> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Stonybrook Clin. Lab?? MDL

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> Thanks for this info. To better understand, what does MDL stand for? What is

this?

> [ ] Re: Stonybrook Clin. Lab?? MDL

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> I was told by a doctor that MDL's tests are not as sensitive or

> specific as Igenex, and that it was really not that much better than

> most labs. But there must be a reason that so many people have

> touted MDL as a Lyme-sensitive lab.

>

> Meanwhile, I also heard that Igenex did a lot of research and

> development in Lyme testing because the son of the owner of Igenex

> had late-stage Lyme. So there was a personal interest for making the

> tests as good as they could be.

>

> I thought the personal connection was an interesting one.

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> Sagwasmom

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