Guest guest Posted June 18, 2003 Report Share Posted June 18, 2003 Has anyone tried the above remedies and how has the experience been. Are they ok to take with Antibiotics? Should one give a couple of hours gap between taking these and the antibiotics? Does the same hold true of Aretemesia and GArlic. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks a lot! RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 RG, I tried Colloidal silver both home made and off the shelf. It makes a good underarm deodorant but did little for Lymes. There was a short term uptick for a month or so. Although silver kills Lymes in vitro, the question is whether it goes intracellular where Lymes likes to hide. There is also a good deal of variability between products. Lomatium was good for the occasional flu similar to echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry, and osha, but also had no effect for me on Lymes. It was not the LDM 100 brand. My experience is that you need something to alter immune function (colostrum-6, transfer factor) or replace it (rife, hbot, abx, allicin) rather than enhance it. Lyme is too good at disabling immune function. I have benefited greatly from Garlic/Allicin along with Artemesia and the rest of the Zhang herb protocol. Zhang's patients often start with abx then transition to the herbs only if it works, so it is certainly OK to use the herbs alongside abx. I have only been on Zhangs 2 months so far. I herxed initially then it took away several of my worst symptoms. > > > Has anyone tried the above remedies and how has the experience been. > Are they ok to take with Antibiotics? > Should one give a couple of hours gap between taking these and the > antibiotics? > Does the same hold true of Aretemesia and GArlic. > Any feedback would be much appreciated. > Thanks a lot! > RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 I tried colloidal silver from allergy research 400ppm 2 tablesoons a day and in 3 days it gave me a HERX. I have a ? does Dr. Zhang use abx first and then go to helps because t he abx is working or because its not working. Thanks Rick Bierman LAc/ > RG, > > I tried Colloidal silver both home made and off the shelf. It makes > a good underarm deodorant but did little for Lymes. There was a > short term uptick for a month or so. Although silver kills Lymes in > vitro, the question is whether it goes intracellular where Lymes > likes to hide. There is also a good deal of variability between > products. > > Lomatium was good for the occasional flu similar to echinacea, > goldenseal, elderberry, and osha, but also had no effect for me on > Lymes. It was not the LDM 100 brand. > > My experience is that you need something to alter immune function > (colostrum-6, transfer factor) or replace it (rife, hbot, abx, > allicin) rather than enhance it. Lyme is too good at disabling > immune function. > > I have benefited greatly from Garlic/Allicin along with Artemesia and > the rest of the Zhang herb protocol. Zhang's patients often start > with abx then transition to the herbs only if it works, so it is > certainly OK to use the herbs alongside abx. I have only been on > Zhangs 2 months so far. I herxed initially then it took away several > of my worst symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone tried the above remedies and how has the experience been. > > Are they ok to take with Antibiotics? > > Should one give a couple of hours gap between taking these and the > > antibiotics? > > Does the same hold true of Aretemesia and GArlic. > > Any feedback would be much appreciated. > > Thanks a lot! > > RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Rick, Dr Zhang does not prescribe ABX as part of his protocol but he says his protocols work synergistically with ABX. RG > > RG, > > > > I tried Colloidal silver both home made and off the shelf. It > makes > > a good underarm deodorant but did little for Lymes. There was > a > > short term uptick for a month or so. Although silver kills Lymes > in > > vitro, the question is whether it goes intracellular where Lymes > > likes to hide. There is also a good deal of variability between > > products. > > > > Lomatium was good for the occasional flu similar to > echinacea, > > goldenseal, elderberry, and osha, but also had no effect for me > on > > Lymes. It was not the LDM 100 brand. > > > > My experience is that you need something to alter immune > function > > (colostrum-6, transfer factor) or replace it (rife, hbot, abx, > > allicin) rather than enhance it. Lyme is too good at disabling > > immune function. > > > > I have benefited greatly from Garlic/Allicin along with Artemesia > and > > the rest of the Zhang herb protocol. Zhang's patients often > start > > with abx then transition to the herbs only if it works, so it is > > certainly OK to use the herbs alongside abx. I have only been > on > > Zhangs 2 months so far. I herxed initially then it took away > several > > of my worst symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone tried the above remedies and how has the > experience been. > > > Are they ok to take with Antibiotics? > > > Should one give a couple of hours gap between taking these > and the > > > antibiotics? > > > Does the same hold true of Aretemesia and GArlic. > > > Any feedback would be much appreciated. > > > Thanks a lot! > > > RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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