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Hi :)

I also have Sjogren's, along with lupus, AIH and PSC. I take a pill called

Salagen for the Sjogren's. It helps somewhat. I mostly have the dry mouth

problem, so I always have a bottle of water with me wherever I go.

Dianne A. (AIH dx 1985, PSC dx 1996, Lupus & Sjogren's dx 1997) in Colorado

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Nina,

How difficult is Sjogren's to diagnose? I've had minor symptoms for years

and for the past couple of years dry mouth especially has bothered me.

Sometimes it's like my tongue and the roof of my mouth are made from a

sandpaper Velcro and I can hardly get them apart, especially when I wake

up. I saw a Rhematologist about it and he ordered some tests for Lupus,

according to the reports, and they were negative (no surprise.) I'm

wondering if I should bother to ask my new doctor about it. I'm sure he'll

pursue the matter until he finds out one way or the other, but I thought

that Sjogren's is almost always harmless but uncomfortable. Apparently

this was a misconception. It really doesn't bother me enough to be a big

deal but who knows what's down the line?

Take care,

Geri

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Geri Spang wrote:

> Nina,

> How difficult is Sjogren's to diagnose?

My rheumatologist (the first time she examined me) asked me how long I

had worn dentures. I told her 11 years. I was 37 when I finally had to

give up and get my teeth pulled. I had spent thousands and thousands of

dollars on them and they just continued to disintegrate. That is when

she told me I had Sjogren's.

If you don't have enough saliva, the bacteria will eat away at your

teeth 24/7. At the time I was having so much trouble with my teeth, the

dentist never mentioned Sjogren's. He probably knew nothing about it

back then. Now, a dentist knowledgeable in Sjogren's can do wonders in

saving your teeth.

> I've had minor symptoms for years

> and for the past couple of years dry mouth especially has bothered me.

> Sometimes it's like my tongue and the roof of my mouth are made from a

> sandpaper Velcro and I can hardly get them apart, especially when I wake

> up.

This is typical of Sjogren's. I have spent the last 11 years constantly

drinking something. Even my co-workers would make fun of me because I

was always taking a drink.

It also makes your skin dry and the same co-workers teased me about

constantly putting lotion on my hands.

> I saw a Rhematologist about it and he ordered some tests for Lupus,

> according to the reports, and they were negative (no surprise.) I'm

> wondering if I should bother to ask my new doctor about it. I'm sure he'll

> pursue the matter until he finds out one way or the other, but I thought

> that Sjogren's is almost always harmless but uncomfortable. Apparently

> this was a misconception.

I was also tested for Lupus and it was negative. If you mentioned the

dry mouth to your rheumatologist, then he/she was remiss in not picking

up on what was going on. They are the ones that treat it, for heaven's

sake.

My rheumatologist asked me about my eyes and I told her they were dry

and the right one constantly felt like I had sand in it. She sent me to

an opthamologist who did the necessary testing (totally painless) and he

diagnosed dry eye syndrome. I use artificial tears 8 times a day and I

can't believe the difference in the way my eyes feel. He did find four

lesions on my right eye. They were not on my cornea, but that happens

so I was lucky.

Then, I was off to an oral surgeon who did a salivary gland biopsy (who

by the way was telling me through the whole process that he didn't think

I had Sjogren's). The lab test came back positive for Sjogren's.

The Sjogren's also keeps my lungs very dry, so I use a nebulizer to add

moisture. Of course your vagina may also be dry. You can use

artificial lubricants for that.

Sjogren's can also dry your internal organs. But I have never heard it

is life threatening.

> It really doesn't bother me enough to be a big

> deal but who knows what's down the line?

Exactly!! If it is Sjogren's it's better to be pro-active so you can

prevent damage to your teeth and your eyes.

Good luck and let me know what your new doc says about it. I have some

URL's on Sjogren's that I'll find and send to you privately.

Nina

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Nina,

I know that Sjogrens can cause dental problems. My friend who has Lupus

and Sjogrens told me that she's had to have thousands of dollars worth of

work done on her mouth because of the damage done by Sjogrren's. I've had

a difficult time identifying a good dentist in LV. Everyone here seems to

want to sell cosmetic dentistry and I need someone who is " serious. " I

finally found someone and wouldn't you know - he relocated to Reno.

However, my new doctor has given me the name of his personal dentist so

I'll see him soon. Hope no damage has been done yet. I've always had very

strong and healthy teeth and gums but I realize that all of that might have

changed during the past couple of years.

I have to remember to bring it up to the new dentist as soon as I can get

in to see him, later this month. It beats me why the Rheumatologist wasn't

able to figure out whether I have Sjogrens since I have so many symptoms

and have for years.

Any info you have on the subject will be very much appreciated!

Take care,

Geri

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Geri,

One of the main concerns about Sjogrens and your teeth is due to the fact

that your mouth is so dry from the lack of saliva. I would strongly

recommend that anyone with a dry mouth use a daily fluoride rinse. That will

help to avoid cavities because of the dry mouth. I see a lot of older

patients with dry mouths, and tons of cavities. That's because they don't

have the normal " washing " of the teeth that saliva does. It doesn't matter

what fl rinse, generic is fine. Although alot of my patients prefer ACT

since it tastes good. Use it at least once a day, after you have brushed

your teeth, preferrably before bed, and do not rinse afterwards. If you seem

cavity prone, do it twice a day. Good luck with your new dentist, I wish I

knew someone out there to refer you to... Actually, my dear friend lives in

Reno, she's a hygienist too, maybe she'll know of one, I'll check....

Love ya,

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lol now I'm getting hypochondriac! or is it hypERchondriac. I've just

decided I have Sjorgern's Syndrome. I've never been able to swallow dry food

without liquid. My parents thot I was wierd. And as the hep progressed these

past few years, I've had eye problems as well, increased joint pain, etc.

How much is from the hep and how much is just me or what who knows. Is this

something a hepper on treatment should look out for?

alley

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lol now I'm getting hypochondriac! or is it hypERchondriac. I've just

decided I have Sjorgern's Syndrome. I've never been able to swallow dry food

without liquid. My parents thot I was wierd. And as the hep progressed these

past few years, I've had eye problems as well, increased joint pain, etc.

How much is from the hep and how much is just me or what who knows. Is this

something a hepper on treatment should look out for?

alley

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Oh gosh, my teeth have been falling out and some crumbling. How do I find

out if this is from Sjogrens?

Shireen

>From: " JJCathcart " <JJCATHCART@...>

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>Subject: [ ] Sjogren's Syndrome

>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:56:31 -0400

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>

>

> http://arthritis.about.com/cs/sjogrens/index.htm

>Dryness Disease Gets Attention

>Sjogren's syndrome is called the dryness disease. Its hallmark symptoms of

>dry mouth and eyes at first are simply annoying - until they make patients'

>teeth fall out or damage eyesight, from Intelihealth.

>

>Evoxac

>Evoxac, approved by the FDA in January 2000, is used to treat dry mouth in

>people with Sjogren's Syndrome, from FDA.

>

>IFNalpha Improves Saliva Production In Sjogren's Syndrome

>Results from a phase III clinical trial indicated improvement in saliva

>production with the use of oral interferon (IFNalpha), from P/S/L Group.

>

>Natural Interferon Alpha Boosts Saliva Production

>Results of a double-blind, placebo-controlled study reveal an improvement

>in saliva production in patients given IFN-a, natural interferon alpha,

>from Doctor's Guide.

>

>Questions and Answers about Sjogren's Syndrome

>A good overall resource on Sjogren's Syndrome, from NIAMS.

>

>Recognizing Sjogren's

>Sjogren's syndrome is often misdiagnosed and it's a great mimicker of other

>diseases. It can often appear to be lupus, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue

>syndrome, multiple sclerosis or Alzheimer's disease, from ABC/Good Morning

>America.

>

>Salagen Provides Variety Of Benefits To Sjogren's Syndrome Patients

>Benefits of Salagen use was noted at the VII International Symposium on

>Sjogren's Syndrome in Venice, Italy, from P/S/L Group.

>

>Salagen Safe For Sjogren's Syndrome

>Studies presented at the ACR meeting indicated that Salagen tablets are

>safe and effective against dry mouth associated with Sjogren's syndrome,

>from P/S/L Group.

>

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Dear Cari,

Sjogren's was my first diagnosis leading to my AIH diagnosis. My rhuemy had me do the lip biopsy because it was the only sure determination. It wasn't bad but I was one of the lucky few who has a permanently numb spot on my lower lip. I can't whistle anymore but I was one of those beautiful sounding whistler anyway! I just hum a lot...

Did you get put on plaquenil or, if I remember, you already are? Short term memory around here is lacking desperately! I always drink when I eat other wise I end up choking on something because of the dryness. Dry mouth can cause increased cavities so that's why they suggest the saliva supp. I tried Biotene toothpaste which helped my mouth and have tried the gum but it just stuck to my many crowns so now I just chew sugarless gum - it helps with dry mouth and the bad breath that accompanies it.

Sjogren's can affect any moisture producing gland in your body, so you may find your self more suseptible to yeast infection, too. I can also affect internal organs, much as lupus, connective tissues mostly. And it can affect the liver which is one reason they stopped looking with me because the plaquenil helped my liver counts too.

I've been lucky and haven't had the major problems some people do. I hope the same for you!

Amy

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Cari and Amy,

I received from the docs years ago this over the counter ointment for

the eyes. It is called lacrilube. You just hold down the

lower 'lid' and sqeeze a narrow bead of it across. Everything is a

bit blurry for about 5 minutes or so afterwards, and if you have

mascara on it will run that all over your face. But it works

wonders. I put it in at night just before bed. Just make sure you

floor is clear before you put it in, or you will be tripping! It was

given to me by my opthmalogist, and I love it.

Carole K

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Thanks Amy and Carole,

I am so happy that I have found such amazing people to help me

through all my stuff. I think you all have saved my life. The doctor

didn't seem to think the lip biopsy was really important she was very

convinced of the diagnosis, thankfully.

I am taking the Plaquenil and I am looking forward to it's

benefits. It is really hard on my ulcer so I haven't been able to

take is regularily...even with a full stomach.

Still waiting for my jerk of a gastro doc to call me with the

biopsy results. Been calling since Monday and even spoke with the

Kaiser Administrator about it. Can't wait until my appointment on

Monday with him. I am sure he is going to be so nice..not.

I do have some good news. Since being on the thyroid meds I

already lost 11 pounds even though the other docs said there wasn't

anything wrong with me. Bad news, I haven't started the prednisone

yet. At least I am be happy for a few more days about the weight

loss. Thanks again to all. Cari

> Dear Cari,

> Sjogren's was my first diagnosis leading to my AIH diagnosis.

My rhuemy

> had me do the lip biopsy because it was the only sure

determination. It

> wasn't bad but I was one of the lucky few who has a permanently

numb spot on

> my lower lip. I can't whistle anymore but I was one of those

beautiful

> sounding whistler anyway! I just hum a lot...

> Did you get put on plaquenil or, if I remember, you already

are? Short

> term memory around here is lacking desperately! I always drink

when I eat

> other wise I end up choking on something because of the dryness.

Dry mouth

> can cause increased cavities so that's why they suggest the saliva

supp. I

> tried Biotene toothpaste which helped my mouth and have tried the

gum but it

> just stuck to my many crowns so now I just chew sugarless gum - it

helps with

> dry mouth and the bad breath that accompanies it.

> Sjogren's can affect any moisture producing gland in your

body, so you

> may find your self more suseptible to yeast infection, too. I can

also

> affect internal organs, much as lupus, connective tissues mostly.

And it can

> affect the liver which is one reason they stopped looking with me

because the

> plaquenil helped my liver counts too.

> I've been lucky and haven't had the major problems some people

do. I

> hope the same for you!

>

> Amy

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Dear Cari,

You may need to ask for something to help the meds go down. Many folks on here are on different ones to prevent stomach problems caused by the meds. I'm on Aciphex but I know there are several others. They can help a lot.

Amy

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Amy,

Thanks for the advice. I will talk to my doctor about another

medicine for my stomach. I thought the Zantac would help but it

doesn't seem to help with the meds, but I can eat more kinds of food

then I used to be able to. Cari

> Dear Cari,

> You may need to ask for something to help the meds go down.

Many folks

> on here are on different ones to prevent stomach problems caused by

the meds.

> I'm on Aciphex but I know there are several others. They can help

a lot.

>

> Amy

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