Re: Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

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Both these can help. Are you having issues with Celebrex. I haven't taken it, but a friend had horrible photosensitivity issues with it some years back. She was a mess with red blothes over so much of her body from the Celebrex. I had a stomach ulcer from a anti-inflammatory back in the 80's and I fear them. I have a weakness in my stomach from that ulcer. joyce

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Glyconutrients and Zyflamend were recommended to me...Glyconutrients to help regulate/balance the immune system, and Zyflamend to possibly replace Celebrex and help with inflammation, stiffness and pain in my lower back. Would appreciate hearing back from anyone who knows alot about these or has been taking them.Thanks!

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I got a few samples of Zyflamend but have not had the nerve to try it yet, as I have a "sensitive" stomach. Let me know how it works for anyone who tries it!

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Glyconutrients and Zyflamend were recommended to me...Glyconutrients to help regulate/balance the immune system, and Zyflamend to possibly replace Celebrex and help with inflammation, stiffness and pain in my lower back. Would appreciate hearing back from anyone who knows alot about these or has been taking them.Thanks!

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Question:

Once you’re on LDN and it works for attacking

inflammation, does one need things like Celebrex, Aleve, Zyflamend, etc…?

From:

low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On

Behalf Of JOYCE MARTINO

Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:35 PM

low dose naltrexone ; rkymtnangel65

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Both these

can help. Are you having issues with Celebrex. I

haven't taken it, but a friend had horrible photosensitivity issues with it

some years back. She was a mess with red blothes over so much of

her body from the Celebrex. I had a stomach ulcer from a

anti-inflammatory back in the 80's and I fear them. I have a weakness in

my stomach from that ulcer. joyce

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low dose naltrexone

Sent: Friday, March 19,

2010 8:46 AM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone]

Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Glyconutrients and Zyflamend were recommended

to me...Glyconutrients to help regulate/balance the immune system, and

Zyflamend to possibly replace Celebrex and help with inflammation, stiffness

and pain in my lower back.

Would appreciate hearing back from anyone who knows alot about these or has

been taking them.

Thanks!

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Pat, if LDN is doing the trick, then you don't need the others for inflammation. I hope you don't....didn't work for me.

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Glyconutrients and Zyflamend were recommended to me...Glyconutrients to help regulate/balance the immune system, and Zyflamend to possibly replace Celebrex and help with inflammation, stiffness and pain in my lower back. Would appreciate hearing back from anyone who knows alot about these or has been taking them.Thanks!

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for AS we do not need these paim medecines but D-Phenylalanine 3x500 mg on empty stomach helps with joints pain.

if someone intrested in cheap and with good results brand e-mail me.

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Joyce,

I just got cortisone shots in both knees & both shoulders in

the past 2 weeks so that may be helping but I have cut down on the 2x day Aleve

only having to take 2 a day first thing in the morning until the LDN kicks in

so we’ll see if it’s the cortisone shots ( some is absorbed systemically

but not as much as oral prednisone)

I’m keeping my fingers & toes crossed that LDN will

work for me and I can be off the Aleve as well. I’m on no other Rx right

now but LDN

I’m hearing that starting LDN in the early progress stage

is best ; I’ve just b diagnosed with RA in the past year or so

Pat

From: JOYCE MARTINO

[mailto:jam2006@...]

Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 11:51 PM

low dose naltrexone ; 'rkymtnangel65'; Pat

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Pat, if LDN

is doing the trick, then you don't need the others for inflammation. I

hope you don't....didn't work for me.

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'JOYCE MARTINO'

; low dose naltrexone

; 'rkymtnangel65'

Sent: Friday, March 19,

2010 7:09 PM

Subject: RE:

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Question:

Once you’re on LDN and it works

for attacking inflammation, does one need things like Celebrex, Aleve,

Zyflamend, etc…?

From: low dose naltrexone

[mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of JOYCE MARTINO

Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:35 PM

low dose naltrexone ;

rkymtnangel65

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Both

these can help. Are you having issues with Celebrex. I

haven't taken it, but a friend had horrible photosensitivity issues with it

some years back. She was a mess with red blothes over so much of

her body from the Celebrex. I had a stomach ulcer from a

anti-inflammatory back in the 80's and I fear them. I have a weakness in

my stomach from that ulcer. joyce

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Glyconutrients and Zyflamend were recommended to me...Glyconutrients to help

regulate/balance the immune system, and Zyflamend to possibly replace Celebrex

and help with inflammation, stiffness and pain in my lower back.

Would appreciate hearing back from anyone who knows alot about these or has

been taking them.

Thanks!

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Isn't this if a person does NOT have an elevated BP? I'm working to keep my BP down and don't want to take this supp for that reason. joyce

RE: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

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if someone intrested in cheap and with good results brand e-mail me.

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I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial infection???

I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?

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On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1@...> wrote:> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial > infection???> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had > an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for > bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut? What kind of "intestinal problem" are we talking about? (LDN helps for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says "Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age."  I realize tendons are not joints. But joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot protect the joints.   Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii. NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems.  And avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.n______________________________A funny, touching gift book for cat lovers. Signed copies, free shipping (U.S., reduced elsewhere): Confessions of  a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til www.wordpowerpublishing.com  

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look for the video of dr berkson from the last conference.he treats RA with ldn and antibiotics.

http://nolahepper.blogspot.com/2009/06/dr-burt-berkson-and-low-dose-naltrexone.html

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Two or 3 people on a FM board that I'm a member have had horrible destruction to their tendons, etc. from Levaquin and Cipro....nasty stuff. That stuff should be outlawed.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1@...> wrote:> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial > infection???> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had > an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for > bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut? What kind of "intestinal problem" are we talking about? (LDN helps for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says "Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age." I realize tendons are not joints. But joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii. NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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I agree with Joyce - I was one of the many that has been injured by Levaquin - I had bronchitis a few years ago and my doctor gave me Levaquin - she said it was a very strong antibiotic and it could have some side effects, but didn't tell me that it could injure my tendons. About a month later, after using, I developed tendonitis in my right elbow and in my right foot, I had damage to one of my bursa sacks. I didn't tie it all together until I saw a commercial on TV from a law firm asking if anyone had been injured using Levaquin. I have since had acupuncture treatments and it has helped immensely.

Judy

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote:> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial > infection???> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had > an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for > bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut? What kind of "intestinal problem" are we talking about? (LDN helps for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says "Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age." I realize tendons are not joints. But joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii. NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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I’m sorry but being a newbie

What is Levaquin & Cipro normally used to treat?

From: low dose naltrexone

[mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of JOYCE MARTINO

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:30 AM

low dose naltrexone ; n Van Til

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Two or

3 people on a FM board that I'm a member have had horrible destruction to their

tendons, etc. from Levaquin and Cipro....nasty stuff. That stuff

should be outlawed.

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From: n Van Til

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, April 05,

2010 6:47 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone]

Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1@...> wrote:

> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial

> infection???

> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had

> an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for

> bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?

Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut?

What kind of " intestinal problem " are we talking about? (LDN helps

for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for

that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone

who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes

with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says " Fluoroquinolones,

including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and

tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients

usually over 60 years of age. " I realize tendons are not joints. But

joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot

protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you

would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your

intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii.

NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And

avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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they are powerful antiobiotics....which I try to avoid with a passion. When I feel "something" coming on I start with Echineaca 2 caps, every few hours for a couple days, serves as a natural antiobiotic. I haven't even used Echineaca much recently. Been basically pretty healthy, except for narley OA.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1@...> wrote:> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial > infection???> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had > an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for > bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut? What kind of "intestinal problem" are we talking about? (LDN helps for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says "Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age." I realize tendons are not joints. But joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii. NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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Thanks for the response

What is Levaquin & Cipro normally used to treat?

My current family doc has prescribed Levaquin in the past for

someone in early RA stage

I value his opinion since he is very up on things but medically

& alternative medicine as well ( he wrore me a script for LDN)

Thanks

Pat

From: JOYCE MARTINO

[mailto:jam2006@...]

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:22 PM

Pat; low dose naltrexone ; 'n Van Til'

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

they

are powerful antiobiotics....which I try to avoid with a passion.

When I feel " something " coming on I start with Echineaca 2 caps,

every few hours for a couple days, serves as a natural antiobiotic.

I haven't even used Echineaca much recently. Been basically pretty

healthy, except for narley OA.

-----

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From: Pat

'JOYCE MARTINO'

; low dose naltrexone

; 'n

Van Til'

Sent: Tuesday, April 06,

2010 1:06 PM

Subject: RE:

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

I’m sorry but being a newbie

What is Levaquin & Cipro normally used to treat?

From: low dose naltrexone

[mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of JOYCE MARTINO

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:30 AM

low dose naltrexone ;

n Van Til

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Two or

3 people on a FM board that I'm a member have had horrible destruction to their

tendons, etc. from Levaquin and Cipro....nasty stuff. That stuff

should be outlawed.

-----

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From: n Van Til

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, April 05,

2010 6:47 PM

Subject: Re:

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1@...> wrote:

> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial

> infection???

> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had

> an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for

> bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?

Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut?

What kind of " intestinal problem " are we talking about? (LDN helps

for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for

that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone

who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes

with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says " Fluoroquinolones,

including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and

tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients

usually over 60 years of age. " I realize tendons are not joints. But

joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot

protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you

would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your

intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii.

NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And

avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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The folks on The Roadback Foundation board deal with RA and "most" take Doxy or Minocin, low dose, long courses of antiobiotics. Many get great relief with these antiobotics. But there are side effects with all these drugs. I tried Doxy for 3 months and had clumps of hair coming out of my head. One man on the board reported, his RA is improved but he is bald.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1@...> wrote:> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial > infection???> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had > an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for > bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut? What kind of "intestinal problem" are we talking about? (LDN helps for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says "Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age." I realize tendons are not joints. But joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii. NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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Yes, I am familiar with mino/doxy antibiotics for RA

However, I am unfamiliar with Levaquin & Cipro

Can anyone tell me what these are used for?

Much thanks

Pat

From: JOYCE MARTINO

[mailto:jam2006@...]

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:37 PM

Pat; low dose naltrexone ; 'n Van Til'

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

The

folks on The Roadback Foundation board deal with RA and " most " take

Doxy or Minocin, low dose, long courses of antiobiotics. Many get

great relief with these antiobotics. But there are side effects with all

these drugs. I tried Doxy for 3 months and had clumps of hair

coming out of my head. One man on the board reported, his RA is improved

but he is bald.

-----

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From: Pat

'JOYCE MARTINO'

; low dose naltrexone

; 'n

Van Til'

Sent: Tuesday, April 06,

2010 1:31 PM

Subject: RE:

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Thanks for the response

What is Levaquin & Cipro normally used to treat?

My current family doc has prescribed Levaquin in the past for

someone in early RA stage

I value his opinion since he is very up on things but medically

& alternative medicine as well ( he wrore me a script for LDN)

Thanks

Pat

From: JOYCE MARTINO

[mailto:jam2006@...]

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:22 PM

Pat; low dose naltrexone ;

'n Van Til'

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

they are

powerful antiobiotics....which I try to avoid with a passion. When

I feel " something " coming on I start with Echineaca 2 caps,

every few hours for a couple days, serves as a natural antiobiotic.

I haven't even used Echineaca much recently. Been basically pretty

healthy, except for narley OA.

-----

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From: Pat

'JOYCE MARTINO'

; low dose naltrexone

; 'n

Van Til'

Sent: Tuesday, April 06,

2010 1:06 PM

Subject: RE:

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

I’m sorry but being a newbie

What is Levaquin & Cipro normally used to treat?

From: low dose naltrexone

[mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of JOYCE MARTINO

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:30 AM

low dose naltrexone ;

n Van Til

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

Two or

3 people on a FM board that I'm a member have had horrible destruction to their

tendons, etc. from Levaquin and Cipro....nasty stuff. That stuff

should be outlawed.

-----

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From: n Van Til

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, April 05,

2010 6:47 PM

Subject: Re:

[low dose naltrexone] Glyconutrients and Zyflamend?

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:11 -0300, kaaren white <kaarenw1@...> wrote:

> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial

> infection???

> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had

> an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for

> bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?

Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut?

What kind of " intestinal problem " are we talking about? (LDN helps

for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for

that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone

who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes

with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says " Fluoroquinolones,

including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and

tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients

usually over 60 years of age. " I realize tendons are not joints. But

joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot

protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you

would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your

intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii.

NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And

avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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Is the Doxy and Minocin the correct names of the antibiotics to ask doctor for? for the RA

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Yes, Doxycline (doxy) and Minocin (more expensive one). Some RA people over on The Roadback board also use tetracycline. There is a book I have: Rheumatoid Arthritis, The Infection Connection. It's a good read and I know the author. She's took the doxy, low dose, long course for I think it was 8 months and did great on it.

Pat, I'm not sure what Cipro and Levaquin is used for as I don't take abx's if I can avoid them, but you can always google them and find out....I just know how many talked about the damage they encountered from them.

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Echinacea is not recomended for people with autoimmune disoders. It stimulates strong immune response and can cause flare up.> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial > infection???> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had > an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for > bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut? What kind of "intestinal problem" are we talking about? (LDN helps for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says "Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age." I realize tendons are not joints. But joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii. NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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thanks for that info ...i didnt know that.

Terri> I often wondered if my RA might also be complicated by a bacterial > infection???> I am taking 3 mg LDN and working good, much less pain in joints..!!! had > an intestional problem and doctor has me on cipro..which I see if for > bacteria..wonder if this would also help RA?Does your doctor think you have some kind of bacterial infection in your gut? What kind of "intestinal problem" are we talking about? (LDN helps for intestinal problems. I have Crohn's disease and it certainly helps for that. And my arthritis; and asthma.)

I'm a little surprised Cipro would be prescribed to someone who has joint problems. Don't want to scare you, but the warning that comes with the drug (which I imagine you read!) says "Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age." I realize tendons are not joints. But joints are surrounded by tendons; and if tendons get messed up they cannot protect the joints.

Unless your doctor knows you have a specific infection, you would be far better off, I would think, taking some good probiotics for your intestinal problem -- or just plain yogurt aand something like S. boulardii. NOT bifidus -- it colonizes too readily in people with gut problems. And avoid eating sugar like you'd avoid the plague. And starches.

n

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