Need advice from MS/Lyme folks --

[Guest guest]

Forgot to mention there is some family history with my mother having FMS/CFS

type problems, sister with colitis, sister with interstitial cystitis, nephew

with Asperberger's (sister's son). I now live in a tick/lyme area (past20

years), but did not grow up around a tick infested/lyme endemic region. I don't

believe the rest of my family has lyme-so I do think there some immune

connection or possible combination of immune system issues in family and

infection/viral such as lyme.

>

> Hello everyone and happy new year! Wishing vibrant health to all in 2010!

>

> Am at a low point and need some advice. I am caught in the is it

lyme/autoimmune and is it a herx or causing damage to my body dilema/I don't

seem to tolerate intense herbal protocols or drugs and have gotten bad herx's or

flares (first one lasted 4-5 months after stopping herbs) with new symptoms

emerging and lasting not recovering to baseline. Sorry for long post- I am now

on my 2nd intense " flare/herx " and in downward spiral with new and more intense

neuro symptoms that have not subsided that started after a drug antifungal

treatment of flagyl/Diflucan. I am wondering is this a herx or am I chemically

sensitive/sensitive to herbs/drugs and causing damage to my body? Should I go

back on LDN? I am non functional right now with dizzy/constant sick feeling,

weak, total insomnia/stopped sleeping totally for weeks now , jerking/twitching,

coordination issues some numbness showing up that didnt' exist previously, etc.

etc. . I am now non functional and not sure what to do. I see my PCP to discuss

lyme/abx protocol this week that I had scheduled a couple of months ago. But

after this first experience my body is screaming and I'm worried it will now

take me 5 months to recover (like last time on herbs see below) and I will have

additional new /remaining symptoms that will not go away like before/won't get

back to baseline. Can you comment on your experences? I'm considering going back

on LDN and taking it very slow--when I'm stronger maybe consider abx or

continued herbal protocols if i can get back to baseline and get sleeping again.

I'm caught in is this lyme or some variant of autoimmune and am I causing more

damage than good. Should I just go on LDN and candida diet.. and see if I can

maintain. Should I see another neuro? I only have seen an MS specialist/neuro

in past.

>

> My history is FMS (1998) diagnosis-- horrible insomnia, headached up back of

neck, stiff neck, stiff muscles (especially left side),muscle spasm in neck and

sometimes upper back, some brain fog and cognitive issues, chemical

sensitivities. Intense pain for 2 years then managed to get back to living with

low carb diet and moducare sterinol (immune balancer -company says used for

HIV?). Went off of moducare after 3/4 years- had bad heart palps and anxiety,

and brain fog but manageable while on moducare.

>

> 2006-optic neuritis with nerve atrophy in one eye, big neuro symptoms began-

intense brain fog, fine motor coordination, insomnia, some muscle

jerking/twitching, left hand tingling and numb after contrast die used with MRI

and body started jerking/twitching same night as MRI(though I had reaction to

candolinium). Brain MRI was normal. 2 bands positive for IGENEX/Lyme.

>

> Dec 2006-things settled down/started sleeping again and with osteopath went on

zhang lyme protocol. Did not seem to have herx's-both eyes continued to hurt off

and on and had some brain fog.

>

> May 2007- decided to add buhner herbs into mix and got permission from zhang

to do so.

>

> July 2007while ramping up on buhner with zhang-explosion of nervous system

that lasted for 4 months or so). Per zhang went off all herbs. new symptoms-loss

of coordination,balance, body shaking, felt weak especially in legs,

jerking/twitching,eyes hurting, intense brain fog, swallowing weird, problems

with speech, insomnia(but sleeping but badly),reaching/missing things, burning

sensation up back, some dizzy/sick feeling which would come and go, some

numbness in left hand. Legs had previously twitched only after exercise =now

they twitched all the time as well as throughout the body. This lasted for a

full 2 months until starting to see some improvement even on no

herbs/supplements.

>

> Sept 2007 -started LDN 2.25 mg- still in this " flare " LDN made me more sick

feeling for a couple of weeks/ maybe month? Full MRI of brain and spinal were

normal. MS clinic said no MS since no lasting numbness and MRI normal

>

> Nov 2007 started to feel better/stronger and sleeping better. Back to land of

living by december but bad brain fog, eye pain, and some shakiness persisted.

>

> Was on LDN for a year -seem to improve but not back to baseline previous to

July 2007 explosion of symptoms-- but also did intense candida diet, meditation,

and slowly added a few buhner herbs into the mix starting spring 08. Decided to

go off LDN Nov 08 since bad brain fog persisted and some of symptoms and though

it was the diet/meditation that was helping more than LDN.

>

> Stable through 2009 but brain fog persisted, twiching, some jerking but minor

at night, some jerking of hands during the day (I have worked a major work from

home mostly fortune 500 sales job throughout all of this). Sleeping was key and

I did find when I slept well , I felt much better and less brain fog.

>

> Fall 2009- started to have flare up- poor sleep, frequent urination at night,

more brain fog/shakiness/but functional

>

> Nov /end 2009- Decided to Dr. Mccandless Diflucan/Flagl yeast protocol. All

hell broke loose after 1 week on flagly(continued diflucan for 3 weeks. Intense

brain fog like I didn't know existed- weak, nervous /sick /shaky feeling

especially in head/brain. Even after off all drugs continued to spiral down and

still in downward spiral Same symptoms as Jul 2007 only now more extreme and new

symptoms like slight lasting numbness. Feel very ill and non functional/totally

not there for my family. Considering LOA for work. I can't function right now.

Can't seem to do much of anything right now and confused on right path forward.

Hope this is readable! Sorry for the novel. Hopefully someone will not be afraid

to read this!

>

> ( I have eaten a very good diet for last 12 years, gluten free- walk every day

, meditate, stretch etc....so health lifestyle EXCEPT for job stress)

>

> Age 48/female

> FMS diagnosis '98

> Optic Neuritis '06

> Lyme IGENex positive 2 bands '06

> LDN 2.25 mg '07-'08

> Zhang (8 months)/ Buhner herbal protocols (1 month on total until crash and

then 1 year on cat's claw, 18 month sarsparilla/devils claw a year later after

recovering from crash)

>

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's LDN Forum:

http://ldn.proboards.com/index.cgi

>

> put your question at the forum of brenda.she has some experience with these

kind of questions

>

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>

> Hello everyone and happy new year! Wishing vibrant health to all in 2010!

>

> Am at a low point and need some advice. I am caught in the is it

lyme/autoimmune and is it a herx or causing damage to my body dilema/I don't

seem to tolerate intense herbal protocols or drugs and have gotten bad herx's or

flares (first one lasted 4-5 months after stopping herbs) with new symptoms

emerging and lasting not recovering to baseline. Sorry for long post- I am now

on my 2nd intense " flare/herx " and in downward spiral with new and more intense

neuro symptoms that have not subsided that started after a drug antifungal

treatment of flagyl/Diflucan. I am wondering is this a herx or am I chemically

sensitive/sensitive to herbs/drugs and causing damage to my body? Should I go

back on LDN? I am non functional right now with dizzy/constant sick feeling,

weak, total insomnia/stopped sleeping totally for weeks now , jerking/twitching,

coordination issues some numbness showing up that didnt' exist previously, etc.

etc. . I am now non functional and not sure what to do. I see my PCP to discuss

lyme/abx protocol this week that I had scheduled a couple of months ago. But

after this first experience my body is screaming and I'm worried it will now

take me 5 months to recover (like last time on herbs see below) and I will have

additional new /remaining symptoms that will not go away like before/won't get

back to baseline. Can you comment on your experences? I'm considering going back

on LDN and taking it very slow--when I'm stronger maybe consider abx or

continued herbal protocols if i can get back to baseline and get sleeping again.

I'm caught in is this lyme or some variant of autoimmune and am I causing more

damage than good. Should I just go on LDN and candida diet.. and see if I can

maintain. Should I see another neuro? I only have seen an MS specialist/neuro

in past.

>

> My history is FMS (1998) diagnosis-- horrible insomnia, headached up back of

neck, stiff neck, stiff muscles (especially left side),muscle spasm in neck and

sometimes upper back, some brain fog and cognitive issues, chemical

sensitivities. Intense pain for 2 years then managed to get back to living with

low carb diet and moducare sterinol (immune balancer -company says used for

HIV?). Went off of moducare after 3/4 years- had bad heart palps and anxiety,

and brain fog but manageable while on moducare.

>

> 2006-optic neuritis with nerve atrophy in one eye, big neuro symptoms began-

intense brain fog, fine motor coordination, insomnia, some muscle

jerking/twitching, left hand tingling and numb after contrast die used with MRI

and body started jerking/twitching same night as MRI(though I had reaction to

candolinium). Brain MRI was normal. 2 bands positive for IGENEX/Lyme.

>

> Dec 2006-things settled down/started sleeping again and with osteopath went on

zhang lyme protocol. Did not seem to have herx's-both eyes continued to hurt off

and on and had some brain fog.

>

> May 2007- decided to add buhner herbs into mix and got permission from zhang

to do so.

>

> July 2007while ramping up on buhner with zhang-explosion of nervous system

that lasted for 4 months or so). Per zhang went off all herbs. new symptoms-loss

of coordination,balance, body shaking, felt weak especially in legs,

jerking/twitching,eyes hurting, intense brain fog, swallowing weird, problems

with speech, insomnia(but sleeping but badly),reaching/missing things, burning

sensation up back, some dizzy/sick feeling which would come and go, some

numbness in left hand. Legs had previously twitched only after exercise =now

they twitched all the time as well as throughout the body. This lasted for a

full 2 months until starting to see some improvement even on no

herbs/supplements.

>

> Sept 2007 -started LDN 2.25 mg- still in this " flare " LDN made me more sick

feeling for a couple of weeks/ maybe month? Full MRI of brain and spinal were

normal. MS clinic said no MS since no lasting numbness and MRI normal

>

> Nov 2007 started to feel better/stronger and sleeping better. Back to land of

living by december but bad brain fog, eye pain, and some shakiness persisted.

>

> Was on LDN for a year -seem to improve but not back to baseline previous to

July 2007 explosion of symptoms-- but also did intense candida diet, meditation,

and slowly added a few buhner herbs into the mix starting spring 08. Decided to

go off LDN Nov 08 since bad brain fog persisted and some of symptoms and though

it was the diet/meditation that was helping more than LDN.

>

> Stable through 2009 but brain fog persisted, twiching, some jerking but minor

at night, some jerking of hands during the day (I have worked a major work from

home mostly fortune 500 sales job throughout all of this). Sleeping was key and

I did find when I slept well , I felt much better and less brain fog.

>

> Fall 2009- started to have flare up- poor sleep, frequent urination at night,

more brain fog/shakiness/but functional

>

> Nov /end 2009- Decided to Dr. Mccandless Diflucan/Flagl yeast protocol. All

hell broke loose after 1 week on flagly(continued diflucan for 3 weeks. Intense

brain fog like I didn't know existed- weak, nervous /sick /shaky feeling

especially in head/brain. Even after off all drugs continued to spiral down and

still in downward spiral Same symptoms as Jul 2007 only now more extreme and new

symptoms like slight lasting numbness. Feel very ill and non functional/totally

not there for my family. Considering LOA for work. I can't function right now.

Can't seem to do much of anything right now and confused on right path forward.

Hope this is readable! Sorry for the novel. Hopefully someone will not be afraid

to read this!

>

> ( I have eaten a very good diet for last 12 years, gluten free- walk every day

, meditate, stretch etc....so health lifestyle EXCEPT for job stress)

>

> Age 48/female

> FMS diagnosis '98

> Optic Neuritis '06

> Lyme IGENex positive 2 bands '06

> LDN 2.25 mg '07-'08

> Zhang (8 months)/ Buhner herbal protocols (1 month on total until crash and

then 1 year on cat's claw, 18 month sarsparilla/devils claw a year later after

recovering from crash)

============

>

You are herxing big time. You need to see a Lyme Literate specialist. Many

Lymie's tend to have yeast real bad and will herx terribly when trying to kill

the yeast off. Try the antibiotic protocol for lyme that the doctor has agreed

to try, if you think you can tolerate it, add the LDN back in with your other

lyme treatments. LDN plays a limited role in those with lyme.

Best of luck,

[Guest guest]

Yes,acidophilus (good bacteria) + herbal anti-fungual (coconut oil, lugol iodine, other herbs) + good diet do cure candida.

Regarding vitamin restrictions, they may be due to comdex which I don;t know too much about but you may want to google it or ask around.

Jen -

From: oldglory@... <oldglory@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Need advice from MS/Lyme folks --"bren_ldn" <TwisterAlley2@...>, low dose naltrexone Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 5:25 PM

Hi,I was ordering some supplements the other day and out of the clear blue,there was a notice that they 'might not be able to deliver this product'.It was just acidophilus!I then clicked on the link to find California is in the test path ofshutting down supplements, herbs and vitamins. Of great interest to me isthe acidophilus. Why this one? Also, why the others? The answer couldonly be that they are of benefit. I recognize most of the bannedsupplements/ herbs/vitamins/ probiotics.I recently heard a doctor on TV say, acidophilus will cure candida. Thatcaught my attention! Not help, but cure. He was not selling acidophilus.The link to look at is:http://www.swansonv itamins.com/ html/SHPShipRest rictions. htmlIf you will notice, they are tightening the screws in California. They

haverestricted over 10% more items from 12-06-2009. They had 45 restricteditems in California on 12-06-2009 and now, on 1-2-2010, they have 50restricted items! Not much time left to speak up and stock up.Also take as a warning, Canada's restrictions. Keep in mind, Canada is atesting board. They now have 53 restricted items and one of them is Vit.D!!!!! Vit. D is a hormone and reportedly good for insomnia, depression, cancer andmore. They'd love to make a law you have to wear an umbrella at all times.Vit. B-12 (methylcobalamin) for chronic cough, depression, energy, sleep andmore. Of course, they push the other forms, which are much less utilized.I looked at a vitamin site and get the impression there is only one kind ofB-12.The most surprising one is acidophilus, which is said to reverse candida.If you take prescription drugs, you supposedly probably have candida. Ifyou look

this one up, you will likely be amazed at what damage this one cando. There are more reasons to have this imbalance but prescription drugsare at the top of the list.I looked on Google and saw: "Candida is fungus. Candida is Yeast! Mold isalso in the fungus family. Fungus NEEDS SUGAR. ... Is this the same thing asa yeast infection? Yes!"Jean************ *****>> I am now on my 2nd intense "flare/herx" and in downward spiral with new>> and more intense neuro symptoms that have not subsided that started after a>> drug antifungal treatment of flagyl/Diflucan.>> >> Nov /end 2009- Decided to Dr. Mccandless Diflucan/Flagl yeast protocol. All>> hell broke loose after 1 week on flagly(continued diflucan for 3 weeks.>> Intense brain fog like I didn't know existed- weak, nervous /sick /shaky>> feeling especially in head/brain.>

------------ --------- --------- ------> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

If I were you, I would put myself on a good most veggie diet with pleny of organic juice and salad to put my liver and other body parts in shape. Then seek help from a good LLMD. I have a good one. Where do you live? E-mail me in private if you need his name.

jen -

From: bren_ldn <TwisterAlley2@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Need advice from MS/Lyme folks --low dose naltrexone Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:17 PM

>> Hello everyone and happy new year! Wishing vibrant health to all in 2010!> > Am at a low point and need some advice. I am caught in the is it lyme/autoimmune and is it a herx or causing damage to my body dilema/I don't seem to tolerate intense herbal protocols or drugs and have gotten bad herx's or flares (first one lasted 4-5 months after stopping herbs) with new symptoms emerging and lasting not recovering to baseline. Sorry for long post- I am now on my 2nd intense "flare/herx" and in downward spiral with new and more intense neuro symptoms that have not subsided that started after a drug antifungal treatment of flagyl/Diflucan. I am wondering is this a

herx or am I chemically sensitive/sensitive to herbs/drugs and causing damage to my body? Should I go back on LDN? I am non functional right now with dizzy/constant sick feeling, weak, total insomnia/stopped sleeping totally for weeks now , jerking/twitching, coordination issues some numbness showing up that didnt' exist previously, etc. etc. . I am now non functional and not sure what to do. I see my PCP to discuss lyme/abx protocol this week that I had scheduled a couple of months ago. But after this first experience my body is screaming and I'm worried it will now take me 5 months to recover (like last time on herbs see below) and I will have additional new /remaining symptoms that will not go away like before/won't get back to baseline.. Can you comment on your experences? I'm considering going back on LDN and taking it very slow--when I'm stronger maybe consider abx or continued herbal protocols if i can get back to baseline and get sleeping again.

I'm caught in is this lyme or some variant of autoimmune and am I causing more damage than good. Should I just go on LDN and candida diet.. and see if I can maintain. Should I see another neuro? I only have seen an MS specialist/neuro in past.> > My history is FMS (1998) diagnosis-- horrible insomnia, headached up back of neck, stiff neck, stiff muscles (especially left side),muscle spasm in neck and sometimes upper back, some brain fog and cognitive issues, chemical sensitivities. Intense pain for 2 years then managed to get back to living with low carb diet and moducare sterinol (immune balancer -company says used for HIV?). Went off of moducare after 3/4 years- had bad heart palps and anxiety, and brain fog but manageable while on moducare.> > 2006-optic neuritis with nerve atrophy in one eye, big neuro symptoms began- intense brain fog, fine motor coordination, insomnia, some muscle jerking/twitching, left hand tingling

and numb after contrast die used with MRI and body started jerking/twitching same night as MRI(though I had reaction to candolinium) . Brain MRI was normal. 2 bands positive for IGENEX/Lyme.> > Dec 2006-things settled down/started sleeping again and with osteopath went on zhang lyme protocol. Did not seem to have herx's-both eyes continued to hurt off and on and had some brain fog.> > May 2007- decided to add buhner herbs into mix and got permission from zhang to do so.> > July 2007while ramping up on buhner with zhang-explosion of nervous system that lasted for 4 months or so). Per zhang went off all herbs. new symptoms-loss of coordination, balance, body shaking, felt weak especially in legs, jerking/twitching, eyes hurting, intense brain fog, swallowing weird, problems with speech, insomnia(but sleeping but badly),reaching/ missing things, burning sensation up back, some dizzy/sick feeling which would come

and go, some numbness in left hand. Legs had previously twitched only after exercise =now they twitched all the time as well as throughout the body.. This lasted for a full 2 months until starting to see some improvement even on no herbs/supplements.> > Sept 2007 -started LDN 2.25 mg- still in this "flare" LDN made me more sick feeling for a couple of weeks/ maybe month? Full MRI of brain and spinal were normal. MS clinic said no MS since no lasting numbness and MRI normal> > Nov 2007 started to feel better/stronger and sleeping better. Back to land of living by december but bad brain fog, eye pain, and some shakiness persisted.> > Was on LDN for a year -seem to improve but not back to baseline previous to July 2007 explosion of symptoms-- but also did intense candida diet, meditation, and slowly added a few buhner herbs into the mix starting spring 08. Decided to go off LDN Nov 08 since bad brain fog persisted

and some of symptoms and though it was the diet/meditation that was helping more than LDN.> > Stable through 2009 but brain fog persisted, twiching, some jerking but minor at night, some jerking of hands during the day (I have worked a major work from home mostly fortune 500 sales job throughout all of this). Sleeping was key and I did find when I slept well , I felt much better and less brain fog. > > Fall 2009- started to have flare up- poor sleep, frequent urination at night, more brain fog/shakiness/ but functional> > Nov /end 2009- Decided to Dr. Mccandless Diflucan/Flagl yeast protocol. All hell broke loose after 1 week on flagly(continued diflucan for 3 weeks. Intense brain fog like I didn't know existed- weak, nervous /sick /shaky feeling especially in head/brain. Even after off all drugs continued to spiral down and still in downward spiral Same symptoms as Jul 2007 only now more extreme and new

symptoms like slight lasting numbness. Feel very ill and non functional/totally not there for my family. Considering LOA for work. I can't function right now. Can't seem to do much of anything right now and confused on right path forward. Hope this is readable! Sorry for the novel. Hopefully someone will not be afraid to read this!> > ( I have eaten a very good diet for last 12 years, gluten free- walk every day , meditate, stretch etc....so health lifestyle EXCEPT for job stress)> > Age 48/female> FMS diagnosis '98> Optic Neuritis '06> Lyme IGENex positive 2 bands '06> LDN 2.25 mg '07-'08> Zhang (8 months)/ Buhner herbal protocols (1 month on total until crash and then 1 year on cat's claw, 18 month sarsparilla/ devils claw a year later after recovering from crash)============>You are herxing big time. You need to see a Lyme Literate specialist. Many Lymie's tend to have

yeast real bad and will herx terribly when trying to kill the yeast off. Try the antibiotic protocol for lyme that the doctor has agreed to try, if you think you can tolerate it, add the LDN back in with your other lyme treatments. LDN plays a limited role in those with lyme.Best of luck,

[Guest guest]

I live in CA, and this has happened with quite a few supps...I end up calling the 800# and talkg to the people, I always get the supps I order...burns me big time about what "they" are trying to do with our supps. I've been taking supps for over 20 yrs. I have pretty darn good health, thank you very much. j oyce

[low dose naltrexone] Need advice from MS/Lyme folks --

Hi,I was ordering some supplements the other day and out of the clear blue,there was a notice that they 'might not be able to deliver this product'.It was just acidophilus!I then clicked on the link to find California is in the test path ofshutting down supplements, herbs and vitamins. Of great interest to me isthe acidophilus. Why this one? Also, why the others? The answer couldonly be that they are of benefit. I recognize most of the bannedsupplements/herbs/vitamins/probiotics.I recently heard a doctor on TV say, acidophilus will cure candida. Thatcaught my attention! Not help, but cure. He was not selling acidophilus.The link to look at is:http://www.swansonvitamins.com/html/SHPShipRestrictions.htmlIf you will notice, they are tightening the screws in California. They haverestricted over 10% more items from 12-06-2009. They had 45 restricteditems in California on 12-06-2009 and now, on 1-2-2010, they have 50restricted items! Not much time left to speak up and stock up.Also take as a warning, Canada's restrictions. Keep in mind, Canada is atesting board. They now have 53 restricted items and one of them is Vit.D!!!!! Vit. D is a hormone and reportedly good for insomnia, depression, cancer andmore. They'd love to make a law you have to wear an umbrella at all times.Vit. B-12 (methylcobalamin) for chronic cough, depression, energy, sleep andmore. Of course, they push the other forms, which are much less utilized.I looked at a vitamin site and get the impression there is only one kind ofB-12.The most surprising one is acidophilus, which is said to reverse candida.If you take prescription drugs, you supposedly probably have candida. Ifyou look this one up, you will likely be amazed at what damage this one cando. There are more reasons to have this imbalance but prescription drugsare at the top of the list.I looked on Google and saw: "Candida is fungus. Candida is Yeast! Mold isalso in the fungus family. Fungus NEEDS SUGAR. ... Is this the same thing asa yeast infection? Yes!"Jean*****************>> I am now on my 2nd intense "flare/herx" and in downward spiral with new>> and more intense neuro symptoms that have not subsided that started after a>> drug antifungal treatment of flagyl/Diflucan.>> >> Nov /end 2009- Decided to Dr. Mccandless Diflucan/Flagl yeast protocol. All>> hell broke loose after 1 week on flagly(continued diflucan for 3 weeks.>> Intense brain fog like I didn't know existed- weak, nervous /sick /shaky>> feeling especially in head/brain.> ------------------------------------> >

[Guest guest]

You REALLY REALLY need to be treated by a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor(LLMD).

This disease is a mean wicked thing that can infect every body system, then

change it's coat, go into cysts, etc. The effort finding a good Lyme doc is

worth our lives.

My time on LDN, and this chat board, were a critical step in my journey from two

MS diagnoses (2004 and 2006) and standard Copaxone Rebif Avonex Betaseron (CRAB)

drugs. I feel that I could not have escaped the MS-medical-industrial-cult

without my time on LDN. From LDN I moved to calcium ethyl amino phosphate (EAP).

The Lymie who helped me make my transistion from MS, is here on this LDN board.

She has started LDN and has added it to her current treatment guided by her

LLMD. I have not taken LDN since about March 2007. Based on a fellow Lymie's

reports on the LDN added to her abx treatment, I'm considering restarting my

LDN, and would take it along with my antibiotics, antihistamines, supplements,

and war on dust mites.....

I don't spend much time on this board, so email me directly to wake me up.

Here are some videos for general Lyme awareness:

For symptoms:

www.CanLyme.com

 

Celebrity " Endorsement "

Darryl Hall and his Lyme Disease

 

United States

Lyme disease documentary - " Under Our Skin " (UOS) trailer

NBC interviews UOS star Mandy and UOS producer Andy Abrams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jeHL1a6fCw

Lyme Expose' by Chronicle (bundled with a piece on Low Dose Naltrexone. Vimeo

link graciously provided by an LDNer)

http://vimeo.com/2354218

 

Norway

Norwegian Lymie, Lyme Disease " What is going on? " , US Lyme physicians featured

 

Canada

Canadian Television Lyme Expose'

The two (2) part series is called Out of the Wild. View it here:

http://tinyurl.com/yl666t7

 

or (both links go to same place)

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091113/w5_lyme_091114/2009\

1114?s_name=W5

>

> Hello everyone and happy new year! Wishing vibrant health to all in 2010!

>

> Am at a low point and need some advice. I am caught in the is it

lyme/autoimmune and is it a herx or causing damage to my body dilema/I don't

seem to tolerate intense herbal protocols or drugs

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My guess would be, since DHEA and melatonin are both hormones, they must

work. Can't have that!

If you have read Suzanne Sommers book, she gives great mention of DHEA and

melatonin.

Speaking of Suzanne Sommers, I was watching Suzanne Sommers the other night

and she was talking about Farrah Faucett.

Suzanne Sommers had the worst kind of cancer and she not only cured it

alternatively but feels and looks great. This was about 10 years ago or

maybe more.

Farrah Faucett had cancer and her doctors talked her into chemo and possibly

more (radiation). Towards the end, Suzanne talked Farrah into going to

Germany but it was too late. The most interesting thing that came out of

this is, they can test to find out if your cancer is susceptible to the

chemo you are using. In Farrah's case, her cancer was not susceptible to

the chemo they used and it was a total waste of time. The damage done to

her body by the chemo could not be undone and the time wasted, was too much.

Jean

******************

>

> ...on that list it's interesting thatthe only state with a list included is

> california, and most of the products on it are from Swanson's. it would

> appear calif and swanson's aren't getting along for some reason and it would

> be interesting to know what it's about. all the herbs & supps listed arent'

> altogether restricted in calif, just Swanson's i think. calif is pretty big

> on consumer protection.

>

> wonder why so many countries restrict DHEA ? and melatonin?

>

>> -----Original Message-----

>>

>> I was ordering some supplements the other day and out of the

>> clear blue,

>> there was a notice that they 'might not be able to deliver

>> this product'.

>> It was just acidophilus!

>>

>> I then clicked on the link to find California is in the test path of

>> shutting down supplements, herbs and vitamins. Of great

>> interest to me is

>> the acidophilus. Why this one? Also, why the others?

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True for Coretta King from what I heard. She did all the american cancer treatments and then as a last resort went to mexico, but it was too late. don't know what her cancer was.

The reason I started on Pycnogenol back in 1995, the company selling it was saying it "may prevent cancer"....well I liked hearing those words and I got on the Pycnogenol (from France) bandwagon. First that it took care of was allergies/sinus/headache lifelong issues. After a year on "P" I went to Grapeseed Ex which is as powerful an antioxidant and less expensive. Both are very affordable today. Just thought I'd throw that in.

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Hi,My guess would be, since DHEA and melatonin are both hormones, they mustwork. Can't have that!If you have read Suzanne Sommers book, she gives great mention of DHEA andmelatonin.Speaking of Suzanne Sommers, I was watching Suzanne Sommers the other nightand she was talking about Farrah Faucett.Suzanne Sommers had the worst kind of cancer and she not only cured italternatively but feels and looks great. This was about 10 years ago ormaybe more. Farrah Faucett had cancer and her doctors talked her into chemo and possiblymore (radiation). Towards the end, Suzanne talked Farrah into going toGermany but it was too late. The most interesting thing that came out ofthis is, they can test to find out if your cancer is susceptible to thechemo you are using. In Farrah's case, her cancer was not susceptible tothe chemo they used and it was a total waste of time. The damage done toher body by the chemo could not be undone and the time wasted, was too much.Jean******************> > ...on that list it's interesting thatthe only state with a list included is> california, and most of the products on it are from Swanson's. it would> appear calif and swanson's aren't getting along for some reason and it would> be interesting to know what it's about. all the herbs & supps listed arent'> altogether restricted in calif, just Swanson's i think. calif is pretty big> on consumer protection.> > wonder why so many countries restrict DHEA ? and melatonin?> >> -----Original Message----->> >> I was ordering some supplements the other day and out of the>> clear blue,>> there was a notice that they 'might not be able to deliver>> this product'.>> It was just acidophilus!>> >> I then clicked on the link to find California is in the test path of>> shutting down supplements, herbs and vitamins. Of great>> interest to me is>> the acidophilus. Why this one? Also, why the others?

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