Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I tried d-phen for a few months but didn’t notice it help my pain levels at all – mind you nothing did and even now, even though I have some improvement in energy etc. I still get plenty of paon and stiffness particularly at night when it seems the opiate receptors are blocked. Nuala From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of zahavi Sent: 28 January 2010 18:57 To: low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hi, I have the book and tried assiduously to follow it for some weeks last year, but the effects were pretty hortrendpus and I ended up much worse. I think I now know that my physical state is very sensitive to any manipulation and have found out the hard way that I have to be incredibly gentle with myself(a life learning for me too). The egoscu method is I think deep and powerful even though it talks of how gentle it is. Thanks for the reference . My pain is I believe directly related to those joints affected by the RA and when I take my LDN it is these joints that really object due I think to the opiate receptors being temporarily blocked. Hope that makes sense. Im going to try the magnesium route again only using calm or some such. Thanks Nuala From: JOYCE MARTINO [mailto:jam2006@...] Sent: 28 January 2010 23:41 'zahavi'; low dose naltrexone ; Nuala White Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN Nuala, in combo with all I take and the LDN I'm now doing 2 specific exercises thru the Egoscue Method. There is a book put out by them called Pain Free and you can find it thru Amazon and there are used copies for cheap. My gf has been doing this method for probably 10 yrs and I'm telling you the 2 simple exercises I do daily now are making a great change in my lower back, hip, pelvic areas. On the Amazon site for this book, there are over 200 customer reviews on this method. joyce [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. size=2 width="100%" align=center> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2653 - Release Date: 01/28/10 06:55:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hi Jayne, Yes mys sister gave me hers and I have used it. It doesn’t half burn! Not sure if it has any much impact though.I try it every now and again when Im desperately tryinmg to get relief. Cheers Nuala From: jaynelcrocker [mailto:jaynelcrocker@...] Sent: 28 January 2010 23:45 'Nuala White'; low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN Nuala, have you tried Capsaicin cream? I have found this most beneficial for my arthritis (OA), but is used for RA and neuropathic pain. Here’s the link for more info if you’re interest http://altmedicine.about.com/od/completeazindex/a/capsaicin_cream.htm Best, Jayne Crocker www.LDNNow.com Important! Please sign our LDN petition to the European Parliament by clicking here tel: +44 (0) 7877 492 669 Dr Steele MBE, talking about LDN LDNNow, a patient and friend led organisation (so not a charity) with no funding and no affiliation to any company or organisation, but rather a group of concerned individuals focussed on improving the health of those who suffer from the many diseases and conditions that LDN treats. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Nuala White Sent: 27 January 2010 23:14 'zahavi'; low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN I tried d-phen for a few months but didn’t notice it help my pain levels at all – mind you nothing did and even now, even though I have some improvement in energy etc. I still get plenty of paon and stiffness particularly at night when it seems the opiate receptors are blocked. Nuala From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of zahavi Sent: 28 January 2010 18:57 To: low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hi mjh. That’s what I said Ive used. D-phen. Mind you perhaps the mopod elevating DLPA would do me good! Nuaka From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of foxhillers@... Sent: 28 January 2010 23:53 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: DL-Phenylalanine and LDN That is because for pain you do not want DLPA which is more for mood regulation. What you do want is D-Phenylalanine for pain. I tolerate D-Phenylalanine but not DLPA. mjh Posted by: " Nuala White " nualawhitebtinternet nualawhitebtinternet Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:21 pm (PST) I tried d-phen for a few months but didn't notice it help my pain levels at all - mind you nothing did and even now, even though I have some improvement in energy etc. I still get plenty of paon and stiffness particularly at night when it seems the opiate receptors are blocked. Nuala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 That is because for pain you do not want DLPA which is more for mood regulation. What you do want is D-Phenylalanine for pain. I tolerate D-Phenylalanine but not DLPA. mjh Posted by: "Nuala White" nualawhite@... nualawhite@... Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:21 pm (PST) I tried d-phen for a few months but didn't notice it help my pain levels atall - mind you nothing did and even now, even though I have some improvementin energy etc. I still get plenty of paon and stiffness particularly atnight when it seems the opiate receptors are blocked.Nuala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I would have loved to try it, but I've had a higher BP in the last 10 yrs or so, and that's not recommended if one has higher BP. [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN I was reading through the Book "Up a Creek with a Paddle" about LDN and read a blurb about DL-Phenylalanine being a value added supplement to take with LDN. DL-Phenylalanine supposedly helps to lengthen/extend the effects of the daily release of endorphins produced by LDN use. You can get the DL-Phenylalanine supplement very cheap on Amazon. I was wondering if anyone out there has tried this and has an opinion as to whether it is beneficial or not. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2653 - Release Date: 01/28/10 06:55:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Phenylalanine is plentiful in chocolate, and if we are in love, it flows freely. A feel good anine. I have some joint pain, so will give it a twirl. stay healthy, david a [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Chocolate can be killer for people with MS I know it is for me. LDN has helped some, but chocolate is too overpowering for me to handle. I try it every so often to confirm it's still BAD [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nuala, in combo with all I take and the LDN I'm now doing 2 specific exercises thru the Egoscue Method. There is a book put out by them called Pain Free and you can find it thru Amazon and there are used copies for cheap. My gf has been doing this method for probably 10 yrs and I'm telling you the 2 simple exercises I do daily now are making a great change in my lower back, hip, pelvic areas. On the Amazon site for this book, there are over 200 customer reviews on this method. joyce RE: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN I tried d-phen for a few months but didn’t notice it help my pain levels at all – mind you nothing did and even now, even though I have some improvement in energy etc. I still get plenty of paon and stiffness particularly at night when it seems the opiate receptors are blocked. Nuala From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of zahaviSent: 28 January 2010 18:57low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2653 - Release Date: 01/28/10 06:55:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Nuala, have you tried Capsaicin cream? I have found this most beneficial for my arthritis (OA), but is used for RA and neuropathic pain. Here’s the link for more info if you’re interest http://altmedicine.about.com/od/completeazindex/a/capsaicin_cream.htm Best, Jayne Crocker www.LDNNow.com Important! Please sign our LDN petition to the European Parliament by clicking here tel: +44 (0) 7877 492 669 Dr Steele MBE, talking about LDN LDNNow, a patient and friend led organisation (so not a charity) with no funding and no affiliation to any company or organisation, but rather a group of concerned individuals focussed on improving the health of those who suffer from the many diseases and conditions that LDN treats. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Nuala White Sent: 27 January 2010 23:14 'zahavi'; low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN I tried d-phen for a few months but didn’t notice it help my pain levels at all – mind you nothing did and even now, even though I have some improvement in energy etc. I still get plenty of paon and stiffness particularly at night when it seems the opiate receptors are blocked. Nuala From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of zahavi Sent: 28 January 2010 18:57 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Hi Nuala, Yes it does burn and you have to be careful, however you have to use it 3-4 times a day in order for it to work. Hope this helps. Best, Jayne Crocker www.LDNNow.com Important! Please sign our LDN petition to the European Parliament by clicking here tel: +44 (0) 7877 492 669 Dr Steele MBE, talking about LDN LDNNow, a patient and friend led organisation (so not a charity) with no funding and no affiliation to any company or organisation, but rather a group of concerned individuals focussed on improving the health of those who suffer from the many diseases and conditions that LDN treats. From: Nuala White [mailto:nualawhite@...] Sent: 28 January 2010 09:38 'jaynelcrocker'; low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN Hi Jayne, Yes mys sister gave me hers and I have used it. It doesn’t half burn! Not sure if it has any much impact though.I try it every now and again when Im desperately tryinmg to get relief. Cheers Nuala From: jaynelcrocker [mailto:jaynelcrocker@...] Sent: 28 January 2010 23:45 'Nuala White'; low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN Nuala, have you tried Capsaicin cream? I have found this most beneficial for my arthritis (OA), but is used for RA and neuropathic pain. Here’s the link for more info if you’re interest http://altmedicine.about.com/od/completeazindex/a/capsaicin_cream.htm Best, Jayne Crocker www.LDNNow.com Important! Please sign our LDN petition to the European Parliament by clicking here tel: +44 (0) 7877 492 669 Dr Steele MBE, talking about LDN LDNNow, a patient and friend led organisation (so not a charity) with no funding and no affiliation to any company or organisation, but rather a group of concerned individuals focussed on improving the health of those who suffer from the many diseases and conditions that LDN treats. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Nuala White Sent: 27 January 2010 23:14 'zahavi'; low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN I tried d-phen for a few months but didn’t notice it help my pain levels at all – mind you nothing did and even now, even though I have some improvement in energy etc. I still get plenty of paon and stiffness particularly at night when it seems the opiate receptors are blocked. Nuala From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of zahavi Sent: 28 January 2010 18:57 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] DL-Phenylalanine and LDN DL-PA is beneficial.dr bihari recomends the brand solary.D-Phenylalanine is in my opinion much more beficial especially for those with joints pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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