Guest guest Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 These quotes go to my point that the Lyme disease " controversy " is a false controversy. It's a PR spin devised to hide the fact that they *know* and have simply changed their story. They changed their story in order to do vaccine trials. Normally we would call that " fraud " or " lying, " or any number of things. But here they supply us with a word they like better, and which deceives the public and practicing physicians about what is going on --- i.e., " controversy. " Lynn -------------------------------- Steere, MD, testimony to Senate Committee on Labor, October 18, 1995: " [M]uch is now known about appropriate antibiotic treatment for Lyme disease, but some patients continue to have symptoms after treatment. This is particularly troublesome since recent research has shown that the Lyme disease spirochete may sometimes persist in the nervous system for many years, as with the spirochete that causes syphilis. " (emphasis added) ---------------------------- J Clin Invest 1986 Oct;78(4):934-9 <A HREF= " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed & cmd=Display & dopt=p\ ubmed_pubmed & from_uid=3531237 " >Related Articles,</A> >Links</A> Antigens of Borrelia burgdorferi recognized during Lyme disease. Appearance of a new immunoglobulin M response and expansion of the immunoglobulin G response late in the illness. Craft JE, Fischer DK, Shimamoto GT, Steere AC. Using immunoblots, we identified proteins of Borrelia burgdorferi bound by IgM and IgG antibodies during Lyme disease. In 12 patients with early disease alone, both the IgM and IgG responses were restricted primarily to a 41-kD antigen. This limited response disappeared within several months. In contrast, among six patients with prolonged illness, the IgM response to the 41-kD protein sometimes persisted for months to years, and late in the illness during arthritis, a new IgM response sometimes developed to a 34-kD component of the organism. The IgG response in these patients appeared in a characteristic sequential pattern over months to years to as many as 11 spirochetal antigens. The appearance of a new IgM response and the expansion of the IgG response late in the illness, and the lack of such responses in patients with early disease alone, suggest that B. burgdorferi remains alive throughout the illness. PMID: 3531237 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] From full text: " These report here the appearance of a new IgM response and the expansion of the IgG response late in the illness. These findings suggest that the Lyme spirochete persists for long periods in the host and triggers new immune responses during later attacks of arthritis. " (p.934) " Some possible mechanisms may explain the late appearance of IgM or IgG antibodies to spirochetal proteins, two of which, the 34- and 21-kD polypetides, have been show to be part of the outer member of B. burgdorferi [citations]. " In tertiary syphilis, as in Lyme disease, specific IgM has been detected after the development of specific IgG, although the responsible antigens have not been identified in syphilis [citations]. Similarly, in certain chronic parasitic infections, immunosuppression occurs in the illness [citation], and specific IgM responses have been detected in the presence of specific IgG [citation]. " (p.938) " IMPLICATIONS REGARDING PATHOGENESIS. Among immune-mediated diseases, it is of central importance whether a persistent infectious agent is necessary for continued disease activity or whether such an agent triggers disease, which is then followed by autoimmunity. Recent evidence -- the demonstration of spirochetes by silver staining in the synovium of two of nine patients [citation] and the response of approximately half of patients with arthritis to parenteral penicillin therapy [citation] -- suggest that the Lyme spirochete is alive in the joint during arthritis. Althoug the current study did not implicate a particular spirochete antigen as important in the pathogenesis of the arthritis, the appearance of a new IgM response and the expansion of the IgG response late in the disease, and the lack of su h response in patient with ECM alone further suggest that B. burgdorferi remains alive throughout the illness. " (p. 938) --------------------------- NOTE: THE ABSTRACT FOR THE STUDY BELOW FAILS TO MENTION THAT THESE 12 PATIENTS HAD BEEN TREATED WITH ANTIBIOTICS PRIOR TO SYNOVECTOMY. THIS INFORMATION IS BURIED IN THE METHODS SECTION, THE ARTICLE DOES NOT STATE WHAT ANTIBIOTIC THE PATIENTS WERE ADMINISTERED OR THE DURATION. " All patients had received antibiotic therapy and nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs (NSAIDS) prior to arthroscopic synovectomy. " (p.488); " Those with Lyme disease had received antibiotic therapy prior to synovectomy. " (pp. 492-493) Arthritis Rheum 1988 Apr;31(4):487-95 <A HREF= " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed & cmd=Display & dopt=p\ ubmed_pubmed & from_uid=3258751 " >Related Articles,</A> >Links</A> Spirochetal antigens and lymphoid cell surface markers in Lyme synovitis. Comparison with rheumatoid synovium and tonsillar lymphoid tissue. Steere AC, Duray PH, Butcher EC. Department of Internal Medicine, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut. Using monoclonal antibodies to spirochetal antigenes and lymphoid cell surface markers, we examined the synovial lesions of 12 patients with Lyme disease, and compared them with rheumatoid synovium and tonsillar lymphoid tissue. The synovial lesions of Lyme disease patients and rheumatoid arthritis patients were similar and often consisted of the elements found in normal organized lymphoid tissue. In both diseases, T cells, predominantly of the helper/inducer subset, were distributed diffusely in subsynovial lining areas, often with nodular aggregates of tightly intermixed T and B cells. IgD-bearing B cells were scattered within the aggregates, and a few follicular dendritic cells and activated germinal center B cells were sometimes present. Outside the aggregates, many plasma cells, high endothelial venules, scattered macrophages, and a few dendritic macrophages were found. HLA-DR and DQ expression was intense throughout the lesions. In 6 of the 12 patients with Lyme arthritis, but in none of those with rheumatoid arthritis, a few spirochetes and globular antigen deposits were seen in and around blood vessels in areas of lymphocytic infiltration. Thus, in Lyme arthritis, a small number of spirochetes are probably the antigenic stimulus for chronic synovial inflammation. PMID: 3258751 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] " In Lyme arthritis, a few spirochetes and globular antigen deposits were seen in and around blood vessels in areas of lymphocytic infiltration. " (p.487) " In general, these patients were young adult men or women who had had arthritis for 1-2 years. " (p.488) " Using monoclonal antibodies to the 31- or 34-kd polypeptides of B. burgdorferi, a few spirochetes and globular antigen deposits were seen in and around normal or injured blood bessles in areas of lymphocytic infiltration, in 6 of the 12 patients . . . " (p.492) " In addition, using the Dieterle silver stain, a few spirochetes were seen in and around blood vessles in the specimens from 2 patients [citatoin]. These findings implied that the Lyme spirochete may survive for years in affected synovium and may be directly responsible fo the microvascular injury In the present study, we confirmed these distinctive features of Lyme synovia. Obliterative microvascular lesions at various stages of development were seen in 5 of the 12 Lyme synovial specimens. In addition, using monoclonal antibodies against the 41-kd flagellar antigen of the spirochete ([citation] or the 31-kd outer membrane component [citation], a few B. burgdorferi were seen in and around normal or injured blood bessels in areas of heavy lymphocytic infiltration, in 6 of the 12 specimens. " (p. 494) " It is likely that the numbers of organisms were reduced by previous antibiotic therapy, and only whole organisms located completely within the plane of the tissue section could be identified as spirochetes. Small globular antigen deposits were sometimes seen near whole spirochetes. Perhaps these were parts of organisms located in different planes or proteins from partially degraded organisms. " (p. 494) " The scarcity of organisms in the synovial lesions of Lyme arthritis is reminiscent of the findings in lesions of tertirary syphilis or tuberculoid leprosy. In these diseases, it is very difficult to detect organisms in the lesions, but the small number present are able to persist and trigger a florid, chroinc lymphoplasmacytic immune response. Similarly, the antigenc stimulus in Lym earthritis would appear to be a small number of live spirochetes, demonstrated here by monoclonal antibodies, which may persist in the synovial lesion for years. " (p.494) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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