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> Hi, I'm a newbie.

==>Hi. Welcome to our group. What is your name?

>

> I hope Bee or someone can give me advice about the following. I

hasten to say that I am doing phone consults with my old GP, so I

will give her the last word, I'm just looking for opinions here,

which I realize are non-medical professional.

>

> I moved a year or two ago, so am far away from my long time doc.

> About four months ago I got a huge sore throat and mouth. To make a

> long story short, I went to a GP who prescribed antibiotics and then

> an ENT who said it was just low humidity, until I found my present

doc who said thrush (yeast in the mouth.) By this time I was about

nuts with the constant soreness. I have been on liquid Nystatin for

about 5 weeks and three weeks ago he added Diflucan. He's stopping

the latter now since he doesn't want to risk liver effects.

>

> I realize this is very different from Bee's plan, which I have just

> started to look at, but I just found this group. A week or two ago

he sent me to a new ENT who found probable yeast in my esophagus.

Ever since then the GP has been ordering high powered tests, since he

says there must be something else wrong or I wouldn't have yeast in

the esophagous. I'm going to talk to the old GP about whether this

stressful testing is really necessary.

>

> I have basically two questions.

>

> One is, is the new GP right, that a normally healthy person wouldn't

> get both mouth and esophageal yeast and have it take a long time to

> heal? He had me scared witless about esophageal cancer (initial

> negative test on that by an upper GI test, but he wants an

endoscopy), now he's talking about an immune system problem since

some blood tests (PLT, ANA, SED) are high.

==>A person who has thrush can't normally healthy because thrush

(candida overgrowth in the mouth) is caused by a depressed immune

system. And yes, a person can have both mouth and esophageal yeast,

along with yeast in the stomach, intestines, and other mucus

membranes in the body. Thrush and esophageal yeast indicates the

person has yeast overgrowth in their intestines as well, which is

where most candida resides. Esophageal yeast is usually found in

people who have acid reflux. Candida is a precursor to cancer - see

articles on my website:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_1_2.php

There are no quick fixes for candida/yeast so bouts with nystatin or

diflucan will not help. The immune system needs to be built up their

with diet and supplements. That's why this candida program works so

well, because it builds up the immune system with all of the

nutrients the body needs to normalize, along with cutting off foods

that feed candida (mostly sugar and high carbs) and elimination of

damaging foods.

<snip>

> I am off to read Bee's information, I was just hoping I could get

the benefit of other people's experiences,

==>It is important to read first so you fully understand how candida

gets out of control and about how this program can cure it. I cured

my candida 20 years ago and also ran a Candida Support Group at that

time. This program is a culmination of all that experience plus

research.

The best to you, Bee

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> Hi,

>

> I'd love to have answers to these few questions, thank you

>

> 1. What are the reaction symptoms from eating sugar/yeast

(something

> candida likes) and how quickly are they felt?

It's probably different for each person. It can cause a multitude of

ill symptoms. Usually symptoms will come on pretty quickly. For me

it's the same day or next day.

> Beer tastes awful straight away. Pasta & white bread taste great.

> I want to recognize the different feelings caused by what I consume/

> don't consume (i.e. feeding candida or die-off)

It doesn't matter how things " taste. " Pasta and white bread will

feed candida as will all sugars and high-carb foods.

>

> 2. If you've got a reaction to food how do you tell if it's because

> you've just fueled the candida or are fighting it?

You can tell based on the type of food you're eating. If you're

eating a lot of sugars or high-carb foods, you can be sure any

reactions are from Candida. If you're on a strict candida diet and

consuming a lot of anti-fungals and foods known to help " kill "

candida then it's probably die-off.

>

> 3. What does it mean if I eat a food which is known to fuel candida

> (sweet fruits, simple carbs) and I don't notice a reaction from

> consuming them? (Can i just eat them?!)

Do you have candida? Sometimes one can eat small amounts on occasion

of a sugar or higher carb food without any reaction. But if you

truly have candida and ate that way all the time I can't imagine

there not being any adverse reactions.

Gail

>

> Thanks

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Raphael,

Are you taking any form of thyroid hormone? If not, find a new doctor.

Chuck

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>

> I'm sure this is a question that has been hashed and re-hashed here.

> If you could point me to a message number I can read the archives and

> save everyone the bother of replying. :-)

>

> Here's my question: Has anyone here been " cured " of hypo by taking

> Lugol's or other iodine supplements?

>

> My doc has given me Lugols to be taken 8 drops each day; along with

> some B vitamins, fish oil, etc. When I figured out that it would take

> over a cup of dried granulated kelp to equal that amount of Iodine, I

> stopped taking it. That sounds like an overdose to me. How in the

> world would the body require that much iodine?

>

> As an intro, I'll say I was recently diagnosed with hypo. Readings

> were T4=0.33 T3=1.0 TSH=142.5

>

> Raphael

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I think you should do some research on iodine. look at

http://www.iodine4health.com

http://www.helpmythyroid.com

http://www.optimox.com click on research

or join iodine

8 drops of Lugols could certainly cure your hypo.

I take the same amount, 50mg Iodoral per day. I still take thyroid meds b/c

half of my thyroid gland was mistakenly removed.

you are so lucky to have a doc who knows something. Where is he and what is

his name?

Gracia

I'm sure this is a question that has been hashed and re-hashed here.

If you could point me to a message number I can read the archives and

save everyone the bother of replying. :-)

Here's my question: Has anyone here been " cured " of hypo by taking

Lugol's or other iodine supplements?

My doc has given me Lugols to be taken 8 drops each day; along with

some B vitamins, fish oil, etc. When I figured out that it would take

over a cup of dried granulated kelp to equal that amount of Iodine, I

stopped taking it. That sounds like an overdose to me. How in the

world would the body require that much iodine?

As an intro, I'll say I was recently diagnosed with hypo. Readings

were T4=0.33 T3=1.0 TSH=142.5

Raphael

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Hi ,

I'll try to answer your questions as best I can.

> You say only a small amount of stevia and lemon should be used. Does that mean

just enough for the egg drink and electrolyte drinks?

You can have a little more if you wish, but do try to keep it to a minimum

because it can cause cravings, so you might not want to take much more than

that. I don't even use it in those drinks.

> If I take saurkraut with each meal, do I also need to take HCl since you said

it neutralizes the stomach?

No, you can take either or. I find I get very painful burning with just one HCL

capsule, so I stick exclusively to the sauerkraut. Other people only take the

HCL.

> If I need a painkiller during this diet, is it ok to take one (without a sugar

coating?)

Bee recommends White Willow Bark. You can buy it most health food stores or on

iHerb.com. It's a non-toxic pain reliever. Oil of oregano is also a good pain

reliever. You can sniff the bottle or mix it with coconut oil to rub it onto

sore muscles and joints.

> Is not eating organic considered cheating on the diet?

Not exactly. Some of us can't buy organic foods, so we do the best we can with

the foods that are available to us. Of course, it's best to eat only certified

organic foods because they are raised/grown in the proper environment and don't

contain hormones, pesticides, etc. I'd say if you could only afford one organic

thing, go for organic eggs.

> I've heard from many people that tomatoes are not allowed on the candida diet.

This is not true?

Bee's program allows tomatoes.

> Since the Brita or Pur filters do not remove fluoride, what do you recommend?

Bee has said in the past that we can't avoid all fluoride, especially in water,

so it's best to avoid other sources of fluoride such as toothpaste, dental

treatments, etc.

> A friend recommended that I take Miracle Mineral Solution--chlorine

dioxide--to kill off the candida. Have you heard of this and what do you think

of it?

Bee doesn't recommend any extraneous treatments like the one you mention. They

are really hard on our already-taxed systems. Plus, chlorine sounds pretty

toxic to me. Besides, you don't heal candida by 'killing it off.' The only way

to heal an overgrowth of candida is by strengthening the immune system by eating

proper nutrients (Bee's diet + supplements) so that your immune system can

'make' the candida 'change back' into the healthy entity it is supposed to be.

It is also helpful not to continue to feed the candida with sugars and toxic

foods.

> With all the contradictory information out there, how do I know who to trust?!

Often you can tell what is not correct by following the money trail. See what

the writers of that information have to gain from it and it will probably become

clear.

I guess you just have to read and find out for yourself what rings true for you.

For me, it was Bee's program. Everything she writes just makes sense and

somewhere deep inside I just knew that this was the right thing for me. Not

only that, but after a short time on her program I began to see *real* results

and that sealed the deal.

Take a look at the Success Stories. These people have all been helped with

Bee's program, so she must be doing something right!

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

I hope that helps!

>

> Hi there,

>

> So, now that I've done my required reading and research, I have some more

questions.

>

<snip>

>

> With all the contradictory information out there, how do I know who to trust?!

>

> Thank you very very much.

>

> Best,

>

>

>

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Thanks so much .

I do have one more question. I was on a candida diet for about 4 months before

findng this one. I didn't experience any die-off though and every time I'd

reintroduce something small, like rice, I'd have brain fog and/or diarrhea. I

think this is because I wasn't taking any supplements, and would often " cheat "

with bacon (with sugar) and smoked salmon, also vodka because I heard it was

allowed, dried pumpkin and green beans (very sweet) and rice and would often eat

huge amounts of vegetables often without protein. Does this explanation for

still having candida make sense?

Again, thanks so much.

> >

> > Hi there,

> >

> > So, now that I've done my required reading and research, I have some more

questions.

> >

> <snip>

> >

> > With all the contradictory information out there, how do I know who to

trust?!

> >

> > Thank you very very much.

> >

> > Best,

> >

> >

> >

>

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Oh and regarding vitamins. Is it best to take organic/food source vitamins or

does it not matter?

Thanks,

> >

> > Hi there,

> >

> > So, now that I've done my required reading and research, I have some more

questions.

> >

> <snip>

> >

> > With all the contradictory information out there, how do I know who to

trust?!

> >

> > Thank you very very much.

> >

> > Best,

> >

> >

> >

>

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Ok, I clipped my message this time.

One last thing. I've been taking digestive enzymes to help me digest meat. I

assume if I follow the diet and supplements I shouldn't need them?

Also, I've been taking acidophilus. Is it pointless to take probiotics now since

they won't implant in the intestine with all the candida?

Is it possible that emotional and environmental stress can keep me from healing

even while on the diet/supplements? I feel that has been another factor in why

my 4 month long candida diet has not worked thus far.

Sorry for all the messages, and thanks a million.

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Hi ,

I think I've understood your question correctly.

If you were eating a bunch of foods that are not allowed on Bee's diet, you were

probably feeding the candida just enough that you weren't causing any die off to

occur. And then, every time you would introduce something like rice, the

reaction you were feeling was probably just from feeding the candida more.

Four months isn't a very long time to heal a candida overgrowth and certainly if

you were already cheating more than a few times, it wasn't yet time to

reintroduce foods.

I'm sure you will notice die off on Bee's program!

Hopefully that answers your question.

>

> Thanks so much .

>

> I do have one more question. I was on a candida diet for about 4 months before

findng this one. I didn't experience any die-off though and every time I'd

reintroduce something small, like rice, I'd have brain fog and/or diarrhea. I

think this is because I wasn't taking any supplements, and would often " cheat "

with bacon (with sugar) and smoked salmon, also vodka because I heard it was

allowed, dried pumpkin and green beans (very sweet) and rice and would often eat

huge amounts of vegetables often without protein. Does this explanation for

still having candida make sense?

>

> Again, thanks so much.

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I think you need to be careful about 'food source' vitamins. I know that some

Vitamin C comes from cherries, but cherries (or other fruits besides lemons and

limes) are not allowed on the diet, so that would not be a good choice. Other

'food source' vitamins I've seen contain beets and carrots which are also not

allowed on the diet.

You need to make sure that the where the ingredients are derived are also

allowed on the diet.

Make sure your supplements follow Bee's recommendations:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

>

> Oh and regarding vitamins. Is it best to take organic/food source vitamins or

does it not matter?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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> Ok, I clipped my message this time.

>

> One last thing. I've been taking digestive enzymes to help me digest meat. I

assume if I follow the diet and supplements I shouldn't need them?

+++Hi . Yes, that is correct. However, you may need to take Betaine

Hydrochloric Acid to help your digestion (if you have digestive problems), or

eat 1/4 to 1/2 of good unpasteurized sauerkraut with every meal. Meats and good

fats are the very easiest foods for our bodies to digest, compared to carbs, and

high carb diets also interfere with the body's ability to digest foods properly.

>

> Also, I've been taking acidophilus. Is it pointless to take probiotics now

since they won't implant in the intestine with all the candida?

+++Yes, that is true. In fact I believe probiotics aren't necessary at any

time, since as your body heals itself it will naturally start producing good

bacteria as you progress on this program.

>

> Is it possible that emotional and environmental stress can keep me from

healing even while on the diet/supplements? I feel that has been another factor

in why my 4 month long candida diet has not worked thus far.

+++As wrote 4 months is a very short time to expect results, since

natural healing takes 1 month for every year you've been unhealthy. For most

people nowadays that is since before they were born. During the healing process

your body will also " retrace " each and every symptom, disease, illness, injury,

organ malfunction, etc. as well, so there will be many ups and downs - this is

according to Hering's Law of Cure:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal8.php

You can be assured that if you follow this program accurately and completely

your body will be progressing towards total health, so any symptoms you

experience in the meantime will be die-off/healing/detox symptoms (all the same

thing) and/or retracing symptoms that indicate the body's effort to heal itself.

See this article to understand healing processes better:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

The best in health, Bee

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Dear . Would you please " trim your messages " so that people who get emails

or daily digests aren't getting so much extra information from the previous

message? Instructions were emailed to you when you joined this group, and they

are also posted on the group every 2 weeks.

Thanks a bunch, Bee

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Betsy, I don't suggest excess salt programs but if you do it anyway, be sure to

use potassium (No-Salt etc) as well to keep your electrolytes balanced. Excess

sodium combined with the inadequate potassium intake a lot of us experience

causes a wasting called rhabdomyolysis, which carries a heart attack risk as

well as muscle wasting and soreness similar to what statin drugs cause.

No doubt you don't get this caution from Bee as she will not either address

points of science that disagrees with her OR have the common sense and decency

to issue warnings about the more dangerous of her opinions to her readers. I

know, I've tried too.

all good,

Duncan Crow

>

> I have been flip flopping back and forth between this site and Bea's and

decided this is the one for me.....That woman scares me....she has a major God

complex and in the short time I have been reading her responses to posts I have

come to realize she really thinks she's God. I have a few questions.....

>

> How much Coconut ideally should I consume in a day? I know to start out slow

because of the die off but what am I working towards? Is it the 6 tablespoons

that Bea suggests? Also How much sea salt is recommended?

>

> Any other basics that I should know? I have been taking the supplements she

suggested....but I don't know anything about inulin, whey protien etc....As you

know those were all no-no's for Bea

>

> I'm meeting with a gastro for the second time next week...are there any

questions I should ask him? He suspects I have Celiac and possible

liver/gallblader problems. Went for an ultrasound and bloodwork today

>

> Thanks,

>

> Betsy

>

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I didn't feel good about the salt recommendation so I haven't done it...I do use

sea salt with food prep though. How much coconut oil do you recommend? Also I

have visited your site and would love to know how much selenium, whey and inulin

is recommended. Do any of these contain glutin? Is plain, homemade yogurt a

good or bad thing?

Thanks, Betsy

> >

> > I have been flip flopping back and forth between this site and Bea's and

decided this is the one for me.....That woman scares me....she has a major God

complex and in the short time I have been reading her responses to posts I have

come to realize she really thinks she's God. I have a few questions.....

> >

> > How much Coconut ideally should I consume in a day? I know to start out

slow because of the die off but what am I working towards? Is it the 6

tablespoons that Bea suggests? Also How much sea salt is recommended?

> >

> > Any other basics that I should know? I have been taking the supplements she

suggested....but I don't know anything about inulin, whey protien etc....As you

know those were all no-no's for Bea

> >

> > I'm meeting with a gastro for the second time next week...are there any

questions I should ask him? He suspects I have Celiac and possible

liver/gallblader problems. Went for an ultrasound and bloodwork today

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Betsy

> >

>

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HOMEMADE LOW DOSE NALTREXONE

Liquid LDN (Easiest): Acquire some ml measuring equipment from the baby section

of a Drug Store and a small bottle with a screw-on cap. Put 50ml of water

(distilled is best) and one 50mg " ReVia " Naltrexone tablet in the small bottle

and let it dissolve with a little time and shaking. Now each ml of water in that

small bottle contains 1 mg of Naltrexone. At bedtime shake the bottle, take a

desired dose (no more than 4.5ml), chase it down with some water and store the

small bottle in the refrigerator.

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Medicine dropper:

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f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1244154148 & sr=1-1

>

> I have some 50mg Naltrexone HCl tablets that I ordered online from India. How

do I go about making the LDN? I had the information at one time but can't seem

to locate it. Also, I'm having a lot of joint and muscle pains (at 62 I'm sort

of expecting this). Has anyone used LDN along with other things, such as MSM,

apple cider vinegar and baking soda? Should I just make a cocktail with

everything mixed together or is there a protocol suggested for combining? Would

appreciate any advice or experiences you all have had. Feel free to respond to

my email or the group. Thanks again.

>

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>

> Hi. I'm new and I haven't found answers to my questions just by looking

around, so I thought I'd post and ask for help. First, when/how will I know that

I am candida free if I'm not getting tested by a doctor? Second, will I ever be

able to incorporate fruit, grains, and maybe dairy back into my diet? If I do

reintroduce these foods, will an overgrowth of candida be an almost certain

direct result?

>

+++Hi . Welcome to our group. This is an overall healing program so it

isn't just about curing candida since your health was going downhill long before

candida occurred.

Total health means " free-of dis-ease, " so you wouldn't have any of the symptoms,

aches, pains, malfunctioning organs, etc. you had that led up to you getting

candida and while you had candida.

In fact all dis-ease processes are exactly the same as healing and detoxifying

processes created by the body itself in an effort to maintain its health, in

spite of poor nutrition, toxins, etc.

The only difference for people on this healthy program is they are now

progressing towards health, and treating the " true " causes of dis-ease, rather

than becoming more and more unhealthy because they are giving their body what it

needs to " be healthy " according to Nature's Laws on Health.

The medical field labels each and every " sign " of poor health as separate

dis-eases, illnesses, symptoms, etc. However all of them are simply " signs " the

body is working hard at maintaining its health, so all of those " signs " are

actually normal body reactions. Remember, you don't get sick from a lack of

drugs!

You can only get healthy by:

1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements),

2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and

cancer),

3) Eliminating damaging foods, and

4) Eliminating toxins in general.

When you are healthy enough your body automatically " makes " candida (or any bug,

cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body

is healthy.

It's like the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the

poor condition of the body. You cannot get rid of the manure pile by killing

off the flies. You must clean up the manure pile instead, which means building

up your immune system.

In order to maintain life-long health you'd still need to follow the basic

principles of this program. I do have a program for healthy people which is in

Foods That Damage, Foods That Heal.

Please ensure you read two important articles so you know what you need to do

and why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

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