hyaluronic acid

[Guest guest]

Rob,

Sorry, I don't know how this could work. The immune system M cells

in the gut are able to import fairly large species by endocytosis

and transcytosis (engulfing the substance and bringing it in

enclosed in a capsule, and than passing it on through the cell and

releasing it in the blood on the other side of the cell), but I

doubt if very much could be brought in this way.

Rich

> Can anyone -- Rich maybe--offer some clues as to how such a huge

molecule

> could be absorbed from the small intestine as blurb from

Synthovial 7 and

> others claims? Maybe polymers are long and thin, could that be

part of it?

>

> Rob

[Guest guest]

Read a couple studies almost a year ago - nothing new. Suppose to help with

joints as you said. A few of my customers have been taking it for months now and

they are telling me the feeling better than with just Glucosamine and

Chondrontain.

Hyaluronic acid

any out there taking Hyaluronic Acid? If yes, what are the benefits? I

know applied topically it is included in some skin/face cream like

rejuvination day cream, but i see it is also used in pill form for

joints as well. I'd like to know how good/important this supplement

is....?

Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute

for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner

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[Guest guest]

This good stuff. I take it everyday. You feel it on your lips. It definitely

improves joint pain.

Hyaluronic acid

any out there taking Hyaluronic Acid? If yes, what are the benefits? I

know applied topically it is included in some skin/face cream like

rejuvination day cream, but i see it is also used in pill form for

joints as well. I'd like to know how good/important this supplement

is....?

Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a

substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the

owner

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[Guest guest]

This good stuff. I take it everyday. You feel it on your lips. It definitely

improves joint pain.

Hyaluronic acid

any out there taking Hyaluronic Acid? If yes, what are the benefits? I

know applied topically it is included in some skin/face cream like

rejuvination day cream, but i see it is also used in pill form for

joints as well. I'd like to know how good/important this supplement

is....?

Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a

substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the

owner

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[Guest guest]

There's no evidence suggesting that hyaluronic acid can do anything

for joints when ingested orally. Hyaluronic acid taken orally is

usually destroyed by stomach acid. And even if it gets past the

stomach there's no evidence to indicate that any ever makes it to

one's joints. Studies of persons having hyaluronic acid injections in

joints have shown no benefit.

Best regards,

Celeste

" D " wrote:

> any out there taking Hyaluronic Acid? If yes, what are the benefits? I

> know applied topically it is included in some skin/face cream like

> rejuvination day cream, but i see it is also used in pill form for

> joints as well. I'd like to know how good/important this supplement

> is....?

[Guest guest]

I take it and it seems to help me.

a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> wrote:There's no evidence suggesting

that hyaluronic acid can do anything

for joints when ingested orally. Hyaluronic acid taken orally is

usually destroyed by stomach acid. And even if it gets past the

stomach there's no evidence to indicate that any ever makes it to

one's joints. Studies of persons having hyaluronic acid injections in

joints have shown no benefit.

Best regards,

Celeste

" D " wrote:

> any out there taking Hyaluronic Acid? If yes, what are the benefits? I

> know applied topically it is included in some skin/face cream like

> rejuvination day cream, but i see it is also used in pill form for

> joints as well. I'd like to know how good/important this supplement

> is....?

Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute

for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

I've just recently finished my series of 5 shots (I

had the Supartz shots) and it's been about 6 weeks.

So far things are looking good (I hate to say,

" great " , cause that always jinxes it LOL) I agree

with your theory on muscle strength and taking things

up slowly. After my lateral release it took awhile

for my muscles to get back in gear, then with the

added anti inflammatory nature of the Supartz shots, I

started becoming more active and able to do things. My

muscles are now in better shape and I don't see to

hurt from fatigue. When I do " hit that CMP spot " it

hurts, but doesn't hurt for long.....like it used to.

Good luck with the shots, I think they worked well for

me....the actual shots didn't hurt, nor did I have any

swelling, so I was lucky. I was also told that maximum

efficacy would be seen 4-6 weeks after the

series....which is what happened.

marianne

ID

Hyaluronic acid

I think someone here suggested taking hyaluronic acid

by mouth. Yesterday I got the first of 3 Synvisc

shots & the P.A. who did it (loved the guy -- much

nicer than an MD) said that (a) it's true that the

hyaluronic acid molecules adhere to the articular

surface (as someone here said), and ( the reason it

stays in the knee space for so long is that the

molecules are too big to pass into the bloodstream.

If they're too big to pass through capillary walls to

get out of the knee cavity, they're probably too big

to pass through the capillary walls to get in. So I

think oral hyaluronic acid is probably a hype.

In case anyone's interested, I can keep you updated on

my progress w/the Synvisc (actually it was Orthovisc

-- he said that, since it comes from animals, some

people develop an allergy to it after the first use,

so they like to switch types, and I had already had

Synvisc done several years ago).

The injection hurt like you'd think it would. Since

it added to the volume of fluid in the synovial space,

I'm having the usual symptoms you get with internal

swelling. For some reason I feel this more in the

medial part of my knee. Loose hypothesis: I have a

(known) medial tear and the Orthovisc went into it,

pushing it apart (hopefully not enough to tear it

more), making it hurt. It's been 24 hrs & it's still

swollen in there. I guess I could use ice, since the

hyaluronic acid molecules can't get out -- but I kind

of think there's no point since (I'm guessing) the

great majority of the swelling is due to the volume of

H. acid & not inflammatory secretions. Just have to

wait. It's not interfering with my getting around the

house. Will test walking around the block later

today.

I'm working on this theory: When I thought I was

going to have a TKR, I started an exercise regimen

where I walked on a treadmill, flat, for 15 min., then

exercycled w/no resistance for 10 min. Did that for a

week. Then I upped the time, speed, and incline on

the treadmill over 3 weeks, and increased the

resistance on the exercycle. I only had problems with

high resistance on the exercycle. In the end (after

about 4 wks) I took a long walk (4.5 miles) at over 3

mph and only had a little chondromalacia pain that

night, which I fixed with ice. That's one of the

reasons I decided not to get the TKR -- apparently

previously (for 6 wasted years), I had tried to jump

into doing too much for my knee, whose surrounding

muscles had gotten weak from low use. Maybe, I

thought, if I built up slowly, I wouldn't need a TKR

for a while. Then I thought having some hyaluronic

acid in there wouldn't hurt. Might allow me to build

up to a greater level of use -- allow greater

development of " knee muscles " . So by the time the H.

molecules had disintegrated, maybe my " knee muscles "

would be strong enough so that using my knee wouldn't

put extra pressure on the chondromalacia spot.

We shall see. He said it takes 4-6 weeks before you

can see a difference. And that's after the 3rd shot.

Ann

[Guest guest]

Hey Buz!

I test that this supplement will be great for me, and for ...

Something I wanted to share...

If you use this with Glucosamine and Condroitin for Joint Support,

make sure you get a " Low Molecular Weight " version.

My Physical Therapist said that if it isn't a LMW version, you won't

get much benefit from it. And I tested this was correct. At least for me.

I'm very excited about this supplement.

The moment the email arrived in my box and I read the title, my spirit

guide was hitting me on the back of my head saying " READ THIS!!! This

is important for you! " .

Love you lots Buz!!

Al

Immune in Phila Pa since 1993

>

> I just discovered an important nutrient, which you can read about on

> this page:

> http://www.pacifichealthcenter.com/updates/64.asp

>

> A movie on this page:

> http://www.hyalogic.com/index.html

>

> This is something everybody should know about.

>

> Buz

>

[Guest guest]

Hyaluronic acid

>I am trying to find information about hyaluronic acid.It is supposed to be

>in some fermented foods. So my first thought was, hey, good old kmobucha.I

>have just started to make kombucha again and would love to know if that

>will give me a supply of hyaluronic acid.coming from the cell membrane of

>the bacteria?

> All my bones are hurting. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia 15 years ago.

> Did not accept it then. But wondering at times if that is it after all.I

> am planning for kombucha to make a difference again

> Thank you for listening. Hope some one has some answers for me.Regards,

> Virginia D.

>

Hi Virginia....the Weston Price site has an article by Sally Fallon that

addresses your question regarding Hyaluronic Acic...under the sub-heading

" Another Gift From Russia. "

http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/kvass.html

I've also had that " F " diagnosis since 1994, also don't buy it....have found

that when my body is properly hydrated, cleansed/detoxed by proper diet most

symptoms virtually dissappear. I have also found that I feel most crummy

when I allow wheat products into my diet. (But sometimes ya just gotta have

a bowl of pasta or a piece of home made bread!)

I have a dietary detox protocol that works wonderfully for me that includes

liver and colon supporting foods being eaten daily. I've fashioned it after

recommendations I found in Ann Louise Gittelman's book, " The Fast track

Detox Diet. "

Gayle

[Guest guest]

>Hi Gayle. Could you let me know more about your dietary detox

protocol that includes liver and colon supporting foods. I too have

the " F " . Was diagnosed with it just over 9 years ago. I'm on a lot

of meds and am trying to find a way to cut down on them before I

destroy my liver. Thanks. You guys are just great. The more I read,

the more I learn. Thanks to whoever sent the info on " Another Gift

From Russia. " I sent the info to several of my sister. They are making

Kabucha too.

>

> Hyaluronic acid

>

>

> >I am trying to find information about hyaluronic acid.It is

supposed to be

> >in some fermented foods. So my first thought was, hey, good old

kmobucha.I

> >have just started to make kombucha again and would love to know if

that

> >will give me a supply of hyaluronic acid.coming from the cell

membrane of

> >the bacteria?

> > All my bones are hurting. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia 15

years ago.

> > Did not accept it then. But wondering at times if that is it after

all.I

> > am planning for kombucha to make a difference again

> > Thank you for listening. Hope some one has some answers for

me.Regards,

> > Virginia D.

> >

>

> Hi Virginia....the Weston Price site has an article by Sally Fallon

that

> addresses your question regarding Hyaluronic Acic...under the

sub-heading

> " Another Gift From Russia. "

>

> http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/kvass.html

>

> I've also had that " F " diagnosis since 1994, also don't buy

it....have found

> that when my body is properly hydrated, cleansed/detoxed by proper

diet most

> symptoms virtually dissappear. I have also found that I feel most

crummy

> when I allow wheat products into my diet. (But sometimes ya just

gotta have

> a bowl of pasta or a piece of home made bread!)

>

> I have a dietary detox protocol that works wonderfully for me that

includes

> liver and colon supporting foods being eaten daily. I've fashioned

it after

> recommendations I found in Ann Louise Gittelman's book, " The Fast track

> Detox Diet. "

>

> Gayle

>

[Guest guest]

>> >

Hyaluronic acid> > > >I am trying to find information about

hyaluronic acid.It is supposed to be > >in some fermented foods. So my first

thought was, hey, good old kmobucha.I > >have just started to make kombucha

again and would love to know if that > >will give me a supply of hyaluronic

acid.coming from the cell membrane of > >the bacteria?> > All my bones are

hurting. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia 15 years ago. > > Did not accept it

then. But wondering at times if that is it after all.I > > am planning for

kombucha to make a difference again> > Thank you for listening. Hope some one

has some answers for me.Regards, > > Virginia D.> >> > Hi Virginia....the Weston

Price site has an article by Sally Fallon that > addresses your question

regarding Hyaluronic Acic...under the sub-heading > " Another Gift From

Russia. " > > http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/kvass.html> > I've also had

that " F " diagnosis since 1994, also don't buy it....have found > that when my

body is properly hydrated, cleansed/detoxed by proper diet most > symptoms

virtually dissappear. I have also found that I feel most crummy > when I allow

wheat products into my diet. (But sometimes ya just gotta have > a bowl of pasta

or a piece of home made bread!)> > I have a dietary detox protocol that works

wonderfully for me that includes > liver and colon supporting foods being eaten

daily. I've fashioned it after > recommendations I found in Ann Louise

Gittelman's book, " The Fast track > Detox Diet. " > > Gaylr

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Hi Gayle,Thank you for sharing your story and the information.I will look into

all of it.There truly is comfort in knowing, we are not alone. I know you are

right about what makes us feel better and/or worse. I have done all of it.

I have loved being a part of this for years. It is great to learn from folks who

have been there.Thanks again, good health to you and yours. Virginia D.

[Guest guest]

" journeybeginner " <arleneyogini@...> wrote:

>

> Another friend suggested hyaluronic acid yesterday. Does anyone know human

dosing for Hyalun -- the equine version?

I have used Hyalun. I started out with a few drops, and didn't notice any

difference. So I went up to a full dropper - the equine dosage. And it worked

GREAT.

As far as I know, there are no safety concerns in upping the dosage. The only

damage is to your pocketbook.

D.

[Guest guest]

thanks for the input on Hyalun...

I've since heard that the human version, Synthovial 7 (by Hyalogic) is a good

option... also very price at $30-40 for a tiny bottle...