Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Mefloquine is Larium. Larium has some serious psychiatric side effects that do not always go away when Larium is discontinued. <A HREF= " http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article & node= & contentId=\ A38465-2000Oct9 " >The Lariam Files (washingtonpost.com)</A> Martha A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 i am on my 3rd month of mepron and zithromax and i have seen improvements recently like reduced pain and sensitivity to light and noise(i had to wear sunglasses and earplugs all the time before). i also have reduced anxiety, anger, etc. i have had a few good days here and there and have been riding the herx up and downs... DENISE PAPANIKOLAS <denisepap@...> wrote: Hi- Just exactly how was your babesia treated. My daughter took mepron for 6 weeks and the vertigo was worse than ever. She had to stop. Is there something else that we could try? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 I took Zith and Mepreon for two years.........it took forevever, but it was worth it. my sweats were so bad. I drank 1 gallon of water or more each day and still would end up in ER dehydrated. hang in there, Connie, Re: [ ] babesia treatment >i am on my 3rd month of mepron and zithromax and i have seen improvements >recently like reduced pain and sensitivity to light and noise(i had to wear >sunglasses and earplugs all the time before). i also have reduced anxiety, >anger, etc. i have had a few good days here and there and have been riding >the herx up and downs... > > DENISE PAPANIKOLAS <denisepap@...> wrote: > Hi- Just exactly how was your babesia treated. My daughter took > mepron for 6 weeks and the vertigo was worse than ever. She had to > stop. Is there something else that we could try? > Thanks, > > > > The book, Confronting Lyme Disease: What Patient Stories Teach Us, is > available through Amazon and Booksurge Bookstores. Please visit the > official website at http://www.confrontinglyme.com for more information. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 My wife took the Zithro/Mepron combo for three weeks. The symptoms resolved without any relapse. I have yet to see any published data that suggests that treatment beyond the typical 7 days is necessary. While there is some controversy in the medical literature about the length of treatment for Lyme, the treatment for Babesia seems to be pretty uncontroversial. Also, I see no evidence that Babesia treatments cause Herx reactions. I have heard it mentioned on the various Lyme lists and discussion boards that Babesia must be treated until symptoms resolve. This is contrary to the medical evidence. Studies have shown that symptoms of Babesia may linger for several months after being effectively treated with the standard 7 day course. Here is a link to a short article about the Krause study (the study that demonstrated the efficacy of the Zithro/Mepron combination.) http://www.aafp.org/afp/20010601/tips/3.html I know first hand how frustrating Babesia can be in itself. The side effects of the treatments are almost as bad. Haku Lymeanalysis.zoomshare.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 haha, that's funny! my insurance only paid for SIX days, not even seven! ....and you better believe that my doctor and i and the insurance company all found it " controversial " ! shame, a person such as myself who has paid for not just health insurance, but an $80/month great rx plan...oh, too bad they underwrote not covering infertility drugs or lyme treatment, unless you were one nail away from a closed coffin... lanefist-i don't know what you are talking about with babesia not causing herx. it's probably because you think that 7 days is sufficient treatment. i didn't start herxing until following the 4th week. and it has been up and down since, but the mepron and zith combo is definately helping me to get better. and may i mention that the article that you give a link to is written by krause, same guy who is a part of IDSA(aka the anti-lyme guys) and has been a part of a very one-sided team. lanefist <hakutsuru@...> wrote: My wife took the Zithro/Mepron combo for three weeks. The symptoms resolved without any relapse. I have yet to see any published data that suggests that treatment beyond the typical 7 days is necessary. While there is some controversy in the medical literature about the length of treatment for Lyme, the treatment for Babesia seems to be pretty uncontroversial. Also, I see no evidence that Babesia treatments cause Herx reactions. I have heard it mentioned on the various Lyme lists and discussion boards that Babesia must be treated until symptoms resolve. This is contrary to the medical evidence. Studies have shown that symptoms of Babesia may linger for several months after being effectively treated with the standard 7 day course. Here is a link to a short article about the Krause study (the study that demonstrated the efficacy of the Zithro/Mepron combination.) http://www.aafp.org/afp/20010601/tips/3.html I know first hand how frustrating Babesia can be in itself. The side effects of the treatments are almost as bad. Haku Lymeanalysis.zoomshare.com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 hey pam, i am on month 3 of mepron and zith and i have had nothing but improvement up and up! i understand that 3 months is kinda the standard and if you are still not well or recurr after stopping abx, then you may do another 3 months and so on... Pam <pamlangland@...> wrote: I was treated for Babesia for only 10 days with Mepron & Zythromax. Has anyone ever heard of such a short treatment time being effective for Babeosis. I did improve greatly with the light sensitive/ heat sensitive issues but still have dizziness when I am not on Lyme antibiotics. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 My understanding from a single study done / referenced by the IDSA (that I am trying to find!) in the treatment of Babesia-Microti was that treatment on Mepron + Azithro is for 21-days to 1-month. The issue (to me) that might cause problems is that there are approx. 13-strains of Babesia, of which the European infections have been found to be more severe... however I have not to date been able to find any journals or published research on the treatment of European strains of Babesia. http://www.springerlink.com/content/8t0j4ja0xdu6thqf/ Babesia microti Infection in Europe Abstract: The majority of babesia infections in Europe are life-threatening and caused by Babesia divergens and B. bovis. Although Babesia microti has been detected in ticks from Switzerland, few if any cases of babesiosis have been caused by B. microti. This first reported case, diagnosed by serology, DNA detection, and microscopy, is additionally interesting because there appears to be coinfection with the Lyme disease organism, Borrelia burgdorferi. Lastly, I would also wonder about any 'new' strains or cross-over infection similar to Babeisa that is carried by migratory birds. This is an area of research that is (finally) gaining publication to show that 'standard' infections may not be the case of what was considered a 'local' infection. --------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Haku, Your post is interesting and I am glad that your wife was 'successfully' treated with such a short doseage. In my case with a European infecton... I have been re-tested for Babesia every 3-4 months since last April and my blood tests support my log of on-going symptoms. They have lessened while on Mepron + Azithro... but they are still there. Whether it is the other batch of 'co-infections' and/or additional infectioins that I seem to have picked up that is causing a need for prolonged treatment, I cannot say NOR has there been any research done / published on Lyme infected patients who are (eventually) found to have other infections that are delaying and/or causing problems with 'standard' treatment protocaul. --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I was treated for nearly 2 years.........that is how long it took to get rid of those awful sweats that would dehydrate me even drinking a gallon or more of water a day. I don't regret the treatment....my basbs only acts up occ and the sweats are so minimal. not everyone is the same. Connie, Michigan Re: [ ] babesia treatment > hey pam, i am on month 3 of mepron and zith and i have had nothing but > improvement up and up! i understand that 3 months is kinda the standard > and if you are still not well or recurr after stopping abx, then you may > do another 3 months and so on... > > Pam <pamlangland@...> wrote: I was > treated for Babesia for only 10 days with Mepron & Zythromax. Has > anyone ever heard of such a short treatment time being effective for > Babeosis. I did improve greatly with the light sensitive/ heat > sensitive issues but still have dizziness when I am not on Lyme > antibiotics. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it > now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I have been on Mepron Zith for the past 3 months, and for the first month I had little to no herx or any negative reactions, in fact I felt better than I had in a long time. My LLMD added Artemesia and ever since I have been in herx hell. I can't get any kind of relief from the headaches, and my noise and light sensitivity has gone through the roof. I feel like I did when I was initially infected back in Oct 2006. I'm hoping this is all working, but right now I'm not feeling great. Hoping you all the best of health. Joe > > Haku, > > Your post is interesting and I am glad that your wife was 'successfully' treated with such a short doseage. > > In my case with a European infecton... I have been re-tested for Babesia every 3-4 months since last April and my blood tests support my log of on-going symptoms. They have lessened while on Mepron + Azithro... but they are still there. Whether it is the other batch of 'co-infections' and/or additional infectioins that I seem to have picked up that is causing a need for prolonged treatment, I cannot say NOR has there been any research done / published on Lyme infected patients who are (eventually) found to have other infections that are delaying and/or causing problems with 'standard' treatment protocaul. > > > > --------------------------------- > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 i think the reason why supposedly it is fatal in 90% of patients in europe is because many of them are asplenic. same goes for those in the 10% fatality in the US-they are typically asplenic. Charolette <iamcharolette@...> wrote: My understanding from a single study done / referenced by the IDSA (that I am trying to find!) in the treatment of Babesia-Microti was that treatment on Mepron + Azithro is for 21-days to 1-month. The issue (to me) that might cause problems is that there are approx. 13-strains of Babesia, of which the European infections have been found to be more severe... however I have not to date been able to find any journals or published research on the treatment of European strains of Babesia. http://www.springerlink.com/content/8t0j4ja0xdu6thqf/ Babesia microti Infection in Europe Abstract: The majority of babesia infections in Europe are life-threatening and caused by Babesia divergens and B. bovis. Although Babesia microti has been detected in ticks from Switzerland, few if any cases of babesiosis have been caused by B. microti. This first reported case, diagnosed by serology, DNA detection, and microscopy, is additionally interesting because there appears to be coinfection with the Lyme disease organism, Borrelia burgdorferi. Lastly, I would also wonder about any 'new' strains or cross-over infection similar to Babeisa that is carried by migratory birds. This is an area of research that is (finally) gaining publication to show that 'standard' infections may not be the case of what was considered a 'local' infection. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I have starated a new babesia herbal available locally. My LLMD wants me to try it; the theory is that if I herx, it means I still have babesia. The problem I have is that I have a hard time distinguishing between a 'herx' and just the normal variation in this constellation of illnesses. This morning I feel like I was run over by a truck! Have had more sweats, but that seems to come in spells anyway. Any hints?? jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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