Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Does anyone know what the consequences of long term use in oxygen therapy are and how does it relate to the liters used. It seems if we constantly take a sleep aid, or use anything often enough the body quickly becomes dependent on that specific aid. I am wondering if this would negatively impact the bodies ability to use oxygen. I realize Lymees take untold herbs/meds/hbot etc. but I haven't heard where Lymee's struggle with their lungs for the most part. I know for my terminally ill son it is quite the ordeal weaning him down from oxygen use when he requires more. Even the hospitals have to do this incrementally. Of course, his situation has nothing to do with Lyme, but the use of oxygen is such a serious matter. This might be a great healing aid for Lymee's, don't know, just wondering where more information can be found. Thanks, _oxygen therapy _ ( /message/13014;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMW92ND\ VpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4Mzg5MTU3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcw NTEwNjAxMgRtc2dJZAMxMzAxNARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjUxNDYzMTQ4) Posted by: " kendra " _kendraz@... _ (mailto:kendraz@...?Subject= Re:oxygen%20therapy) _breathdancing _ (breathdancing) Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:21 pm (PDT) Greetings, In the Spring issue of Lyme Times, page 26, there is an article by Jerry Simon, PA. He refers to prescribing an oxygen concentrator for patients to sleep with at night or during the day to treat Lyme. He used 2-4 liters per minute of oxygen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 we boil our tygon tubing in water and baking soda consentrators use your air, so if your air is toxic, it will give you consentrated toxins we bought a ceramic mask from the living source we bought our own regulator and oxygen cart We rented oxygen tanks with an RX We paid for it out of pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 We'd use 2-10 minutes cranked up to ten, for headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Hello, I am replying from a hyperbaric oxygen machine. I also have oxygen at home. Since starting 6 weeks ago I can't find words to express how much this has helped and I believe will be the cure . I was very sick in bed since the tick bite in July 06. Nothing helped from antiobiotics to all current recommended treatments. I can hardly contain myself & keep from shouting to everyone about my recovery from being bedridden to almost back to normal especially my energy level. Stll dealing with some pain but I believe that my diet will also help to improve that. I have info about a fairly inexpensive way to have oxygen at home if anyone is interested. Thanksbe unto god who Always helps us to triump beause of Jesus Christ!!! My prayers go out to all who are suffering. - In , " kendra " <kendraz@...> wrote: > > Greetings, > > In the Spring issue of Lyme Times, page 26, there is an article by Jerry > Simon, PA. He refers to prescribing an oxygen concentrator for patients to > sleep with at night or during the day to treat Lyme. He used 2-4 liters per > minute of oxygen. > > I'm wondering if anyone has used this protocol. If so, what has been the > result? How long did you use it? > > Simon also mentions that this treatment is often covered by insurance. Has > anyone found that to be so? My understanding is that medicare WILL NOT over > this treatment. > > I also have MCS, so using plastics, tubing, etc, can be prohibitive. > Wondering what people have used for oxygen concentrators that would be free > of plastic smells? > > I have already purchased a ceramic face mask and Tygon tubing from American > Environmental Health (in Texas). > > Curiously and gratefully, > Kendra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Hi ,  I don't believe that oxygen at such a low dose would cause you any damage. On the contrary, lyme patients tend to have poor circulation and are oxygen deprived. Oxygen can only help the body heal. Sudylo RN/CHT www.juliashbot.com  From: WitherspoonK@... <WitherspoonK@...> Subject: [ ] oxygen therapy Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 11:47 AM  Does anyone know what the consequences of long term use in oxygen therapy are and how does it relate to the liters used. It seems if we constantly take a sleep aid, or use anything often enough the body quickly becomes dependent on that specific aid. I am wondering if this would negatively impact the bodies ability to use oxygen. I realize Lymees take untold herbs/meds/hbot etc. but I haven't heard where Lymee's struggle with their lungs for the most part. I know for my terminally ill son it is quite the ordeal weaning him down from oxygen use when he requires more. Even the hospitals have to do this incrementally. Of course, his situation has nothing to do with Lyme, but the use of oxygen is such a serious matter. This might be a great healing aid for Lymee's, don't know, just wondering where more information can be found. Thanks, _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 When you say " all current recommended treatments " could you be more specific please? What exactly have you used and for how long? Thanks! > [ ] Re: oxygen therapy > > Hello, I am replying from a hyperbaric oxygen machine. I also > have oxygen at home. Since starting 6 weeks ago I can't find > words to express how much this has helped and I believe will > be the cure . I was very sick in bed since the tick bite in > July 06. Nothing helped from antiobiotics to all current > recommended treatments. I can hardly contain myself & keep > from shouting to everyone about my recovery from being > bedridden to almost back to normal especially my energy > level. Stll dealing with some pain but I believe that my diet > will also help to improve that. I have info about a fairly > inexpensive way to have oxygen at home if anyone is > interested. Thanksbe unto god who Always helps us to triump > beause of Jesus Christ!!! My prayers go out to all who are suffering. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Kendra, I am responding again to give you further info to a specific question you asked. My insurance pays for my oxygen because my PC Dr ordered a test at home that Praxair did that showed I had hypoxia while I was sleeping. With this diagnosis code of hypoxia she was able to write a prescription and Blue Cross is covering it. I would think that your tubing and mask would attach to the oxygen machine. Maybe you could look in the phone book under oxygen and talk to a company that rents the machines and they can advise you. I do not recieve Lyme Times. Could you send me the info where to subscribe?  Thanks.........Kerry ________________________________ From: kerrybd17 <specialtyhitches@...> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:29:33 PM Subject: [ ] Re: oxygen therapy  Hello, I am replying from a hyperbaric oxygen machine. I also have oxygen at home. Since starting 6 weeks ago I can't find words to express how much this has helped and I believe will be the cure . I was very sick in bed since the tick bite in July 06. Nothing helped from antiobiotics to all current recommended treatments. I can hardly contain myself & keep from shouting to everyone about my recovery from being bedridden to almost back to normal especially my energy level. Stll dealing with some pain but I believe that my diet will also help to improve that. I have info about a fairly inexpensive way to have oxygen at home if anyone is interested. Thanksbe unto god who Always helps us to triump beause of Jesus Christ!!! My prayers go out to all who are suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 > I don't believe that oxygen at such a low dose would cause you any damage. On the contrary, lyme patients tend to have poor circulation and are oxygen deprived. Oxygen can only help the body heal. if you have too low oxygen due to poor circulation that is probably true. However, as far as I know oxygen content in the blood is buffered very well, it is unlikely to be much lower in the bloodstream (but maybe lower in certain remote spots where the bugs hide). The trouble with oxygen is that theoretically it is making the engine of your cells burn faster, which means aging is accelerated. This is NOT good. I have no idea how to balance the good and bad part with Lyme disease, but I think at least a warning is appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 In my excitement from the first positive results from a treatment I was not specific enough and probably somewhat over exaggerated with using the " all current recommended treatments " . I appreciate you getting me to clarify this because I would not want to misinform anyone. Since july 06 when I was really green and knew nothing about Lyme I went to many Drs including infectious disease Drs at Mayo Clinc. I went to a LLMD and a ND and have read the books The Top 10 Lyme Disease Treatments and Dr Singleton's Lyme Disease Solution among others. I have not done the marshal protocol but my Vit D level is already very low anyway. No rife machine. My antibiotic protocol included IV and oral antibiotics: doxicycline, minocycline, zithromax, biaxin, amoxicillin. I don't remember them all but I stayed on antibiotics for up to 3 months consecutively but not in the beginning. I'm sure you know this if my PC Dr had given me the right antibiotics for the right length of time when I initially got the tick bite I probably wouldn't have chronic lyme. I've taken flagyl, malarone, all kinds of supplements for inflammation, detoxifying, etc. I'm taking as many of the supplements and trying diets that the books recommended including magnesium, Alkalyme to balance my PH, probiotics, CoQ10, EFA's, Reservatrol, Samento, Cumanda, oak leaf extract, Nattokinase, Ultra InflamX, Maltic Acid, B-12 with folate &  all B vitamins, Dr Daily Vitamins, Spectroamino powder, Cholestyramine, adrenal rebuilder, garlic, IV Meyers's Coctail, IV chelation, cidin, Spiro, Niacinamide, Chromium picolinate so many pills that I'm too full to eat so I drink a low carb protein shake. After three years of all this I finally found a place to get HBOT and within a few weeks I knew that I felt better than I ever had and have continued to progress from being bedridden to being up and about able to shop, etc. I'm not totally recovered but I know have hope and believe that with the 60 recommended treatments, diet, and exercise I'm finally going to beat Lyme disease. Hope this was helpful and I will try to answer any other questions. Thanks.......Kerry ________________________________ From: <msadams@...> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:43:38 AM Subject: RE: [ ] oxygen therapy  When you say " all current recommended treatments " could you be more specific please? What exactly have you used and for how long? Thanks! > [ ] Re: oxygen therapy > > Hello, I am replying from a hyperbaric oxygen machine. I also > have oxygen at home. Since starting 6 weeks ago I can't find > words to express how much this has helped and I believe will > be the cure . I was very sick in bed since the tick bite in > July 06. Nothing helped from antiobiotics to all current > recommended treatments. I can hardly contain myself & keep > from shouting to everyone about my recovery from being > bedridden to almost back to normal especially my energy > level. Stll dealing with some pain but I believe that my diet > will also help to improve that. I have info about a fairly > inexpensive way to have oxygen at home if anyone is > interested. Thanksbe unto god who Always helps us to triump > beause of Jesus Christ!!! My prayers go out to all who are suffering. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Kendra, I would be interested in knowing what oxygen treatment you are using. You mentioned hyperbaric oxygen. Are you also using something else? Thanks! On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM, kerrybd17 <specialtyhitches@...>wrote: > > > Hello, I am replying from a hyperbaric oxygen machine. I also have oxygen > at home. Since starting 6 weeks ago I can't find words to express how much > this has helped and I believe will be the cure . I was very sick in bed > since the tick bite in July 06. Nothing helped from antiobiotics to all > current recommended treatments. I can hardly contain myself & keep from > shouting to everyone about my recovery from being bedridden to almost back > to normal especially my energy level. Stll dealing with some pain but I > believe that my diet will also help to improve that. I have info about a > fairly inexpensive way to have oxygen at home if anyone is interested. > Thanksbe unto god who Always helps us to triump beause of Jesus Christ!!! My > prayers go out to all who are suffering. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Kerry, what is the exact protocol of the HBOT treatment you are going through (hard vs. soft chamber, air pressure, frequency of dive, ...)? Do you get your treatments at a clinic or at home? I am wondering if the HBOT protocol you are using to treat Lyme disease is similar to the ones some parents with autistic kids got all excited about.  From: Kerry Dye <specialtyhitches@...> Subject: Re: [ ] oxygen therapy Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:09 PM  In my excitement from the first positive results from a treatment I was not specific enough and probably somewhat over exaggerated with using the " all current recommended treatments " . I appreciate you getting me to clarify this because I would not want to misinform anyone. Since july 06 when I was really green and knew nothing about Lyme I went to many Drs including infectious disease Drs at Mayo Clinc. I went to a LLMD and a ND and have read the books The Top 10 Lyme Disease Treatments and Dr Singleton's Lyme Disease Solution among others. I have not done the marshal protocol but my Vit D level is already very low anyway. No rife machine. My antibiotic protocol included IV and oral antibiotics: doxicycline, minocycline, zithromax, biaxin, amoxicillin. I don't remember them all but I stayed on antibiotics for up to 3 months consecutively but not in the beginning. I'm sure you know this if my PC Dr had given me the right antibiotics for the right length of time when I initially got the tick bite I probably wouldn't have chronic lyme. I've taken flagyl, malarone, all kinds of supplements for inflammation, detoxifying, etc. I'm taking as many of the supplements and trying diets that the books recommended including magnesium, Alkalyme to balance my PH, probiotics, CoQ10, EFA's, Reservatrol, Samento, Cumanda, oak leaf extract, Nattokinase , Ultra InflamX, Maltic Acid, B-12 with folate &  all B vitamins, Dr Daily Vitamins, Spectroami no powder, Cholestyramine, adrenal rebuilder, garlic, IV Meyers's Coctail, IV chelation, cidin, Spiro, Niacinamide, Chromium picolinate so many pills that I'm too full to eat so I drink a low carb protein shake. After three years of all this I finally found a place to get HBOT and within a few weeks I knew that I felt better than I ever had and have continued to progress from being bedridden to being up and about able to shop, etc. I'm not totally recovered but I know have hope and believe that with the 60 recommended treatments, diet, and exercise I'm finally going to beat Lyme disease. Hope this was helpful and I will try to answer any other questions. Thanks...... .Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I am so glad it is working for you - I do pray it heals you. I would love to be updated as you continue tx and hear how you are doing after the 60 txs. I have heard from others who did HBOT that it was helpful to take certain antibiotics while doing it. Have you looked into this? Best Wishes, shauna > > In my excitement from the first positive results from a treatment I was not specific enough and probably somewhat over exaggerated with using the " all current recommended treatments " . I appreciate you getting me to clarify this because I would not want to misinform anyone. Since july 06 when I was really green and knew nothing about Lyme I went to many Drs including infectious disease Drs at Mayo Clinc. I went to a LLMD and a ND and have read the books The Top 10 Lyme Disease Treatments and Dr Singleton's Lyme Disease Solution among others. I have not done the marshal protocol but my Vit D level is already very low anyway. No rife machine. My antibiotic protocol included IV and oral antibiotics: doxicycline, minocycline, zithromax, biaxin, amoxicillin. I don't remember them all but I stayed on antibiotics for up to 3 months consecutively but not in the beginning. I'm sure you know this if my PC Dr had given me the right antibiotics for the right > length of time when I initially got the tick bite I probably wouldn't have chronic lyme. I've taken flagyl, malarone, all kinds of supplements for inflammation, detoxifying, etc. > I'm taking as many of the supplements and trying diets that the books recommended including magnesium, Alkalyme to balance my PH, probiotics, CoQ10, EFA's, Reservatrol, Samento, Cumanda, oak leaf extract, Nattokinase, Ultra InflamX, Maltic Acid, B-12 with folate &  all B vitamins, Dr Daily Vitamins, Spectroamino powder, Cholestyramine, adrenal rebuilder, garlic, IV Meyers's Coctail, IV chelation, cidin, Spiro, Niacinamide, Chromium picolinate so many pills that I'm too full to eat so I drink a low carb protein shake. After three years of all this I finally found a place to get HBOT and within a few weeks I knew that I felt better than I ever had and have continued to progress from being bedridden to being up and about able to shop, etc. I'm not totally recovered but I know have hope and believe that with the 60 recommended treatments, diet, and exercise I'm finally going to beat Lyme disease. Hope this was helpful and I will try > to answer any other questions. Thanks.......Kerry > > > > ________________________________ > From: <msadams@...> > > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:43:38 AM > Subject: RE: [ ] oxygen therapy > >  > When you say " all current recommended treatments " could you be more > specific please? What exactly have you used and for how long? > > Thanks! > > > > > [ ] Re: oxygen therapy > > > > Hello, I am replying from a hyperbaric oxygen machine. I also > > have oxygen at home. Since starting 6 weeks ago I can't find > > words to express how much this has helped and I believe will > > be the cure . I was very sick in bed since the tick bite in > > July 06. Nothing helped from antiobiotics to all current > > recommended treatments. I can hardly contain myself & keep > > from shouting to everyone about my recovery from being > > bedridden to almost back to normal especially my energy > > level. Stll dealing with some pain but I believe that my diet > > will also help to improve that. I have info about a fairly > > inexpensive way to have oxygen at home if anyone is > > interested. Thanksbe unto god who Always helps us to triump > > beause of Jesus Christ!!! My prayers go out to all who are suffering. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Ok thanks for the update. I do know that there seems to be 3 other alternative practices that are helping allot of folks. They are rife machines, Salt/c, and Colloidal Silver. Note the Marshall protocol is also controversial and its not just having low vitamin D, its about using Benicar to break the vitamin D chain the bacteria uses. Again there are both good and bad reports on it. I am glad you are getting relief with hyperbaric. I have heard good things about it short term but no one has ever reported being able to stop and go on with their life. In many cases it seems folks find a protocol that works for them and gets them to 90% and then just continue that. Please keep us informed on your progress! Also a reminder as always I have a free lyme resource computer cd for anyone who wants it. See the files section in this forum on how to get it or email me. > Re: [ ] oxygen therapy > > In my excitement from the first positive results from a > treatment I was not specific enough and probably somewhat > over exaggerated with using the " all current recommended > treatments " . I appreciate you getting me to clarify this > because I would not want to misinform anyone. Since july 06 > when I was really green and knew nothing about Lyme I went to > many Drs including infectious disease Drs at Mayo Clinc. I > went to a LLMD and a ND and have read the books The Top 10 > Lyme Disease Treatments and Dr Singleton's Lyme Disease > Solution among others. I have not done the marshal protocol > but my Vit D level is already very low anyway. No rife > machine. My antibiotic protocol included IV and oral > antibiotics: doxicycline, minocycline, zithromax, biaxin, > amoxicillin. I don't remember them all but I stayed on > antibiotics for up to 3 months consecutively but not in the > beginning. I'm sure you know this if my PC Dr had given me > the right antibiotics for the right length of time when I > initially got the tick bite I probably wouldn't have chronic > lyme. I've taken flagyl, malarone, all kinds of supplements > for inflammation, detoxifying, etc. > I'm taking as many of the supplements and trying diets that > the books recommended including magnesium, Alkalyme to > balance my PH, probiotics, CoQ10, EFA's, Reservatrol, > Samento, Cumanda, oak leaf extract, Nattokinase, Ultra > InflamX, Maltic Acid, B-12 with folate &  all B vitamins, Dr > Daily Vitamins, Spectroamino powder, > Cholestyramine, adrenal rebuilder, garlic, IV Meyers's > Coctail, IV chelation, cidin, Spiro, Niacinamide, > Chromium picolinate so many pills that I'm too full to eat so > I drink a low carb protein shake. After three years of all > this I finally found a place to get HBOT and within a few > weeks I knew that I felt better than I ever had and have > continued to progress from being bedridden to being up and > about able to shop, etc. I'm not totally recovered but I know > have hope and believe that with the 60 recommended > treatments, diet, and exercise I'm finally going to beat Lyme > disease. Hope this was helpful and I will try to answer any > other questions. Thanks.......Kerry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 , You don't owe me any thanks. I didn't elaborate on my experience for your benefit because you are obviously very knowledgeable and have your own " bias " no matter what I say. I did want to clarify it for any other readers. In the Health Alert Aug 2009 issue by Dr Bruce West there is an article about oxygen therapy and the possibility of an inexpensive machine being developed for purchase to use at home with a stationary bike. This will probably be my last input on any subject since there are those who are a much better authority and have the resources to invest in making it public. God Bless you all...........Kerry  ________________________________ Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:22:30 AM Subject: RE: [ ] oxygen therapy Ok thanks for the update. I do know that there seems to be 3 other alternative practices that are helping allot of folks. They are rife machines, Salt/c, and Colloidal Silver. Note the Marshall protocol is also controversial and its not just having low vitamin D, its about using Benicar to break the vitamin D chain the bacteria uses. Again there are both good and bad reports on it. I am glad you are getting relief with hyperbaric. I have heard good things about it short term but no one has ever reported being able to stop and go on with their life. In many cases it seems folks find a protocol that works for them and gets them to 90% and then just continue that. Please keep us informed on your progress! Also a reminder as always I have a free lyme resource computer cd for anyone who wants it. See the files section in this forum on how to get it or email me. > Re: [ ] oxygen therapy > > In my excitement from the first positive results from a > treatment I was not specific enough and probably somewhat > over exaggerated with using the " all current recommended > treatments " . I appreciate you getting me to clarify this > because I would not want to misinform anyone. Since july 06 > when I was really green and knew nothing about Lyme I went to > many Drs including infectious disease Drs at Mayo Clinc. I > went to a LLMD and a ND and have read the books The Top 10 > Lyme Disease Treatments and Dr Singleton's Lyme Disease > Solution among others. I have not done the marshal protocol > but my Vit D level is already very low anyway. No rife > machine. My antibiotic protocol included IV and oral > antibiotics: doxicycline, minocycline, zithromax, biaxin, > amoxicillin. I don't remember them all but I stayed on > antibiotics for up to 3 months consecutively but not in the > beginning. I'm sure you know this if my PC Dr had given me > the right antibiotics for the right length of time when I > initially got the tick bite I probably wouldn't have chronic > lyme. I've taken flagyl, malarone, all kinds of supplements > for inflammation, detoxifying, etc. > I'm taking as many of the supplements and trying diets that > the books recommended including magnesium, Alkalyme to > balance my PH, probiotics, CoQ10, EFA's, Reservatrol, > Samento, Cumanda, oak leaf extract, Nattokinase , Ultra > InflamX, Maltic Acid, B-12 with folate &  all B vitamins, Dr > Daily Vitamins, Spectroami no powder, > Cholestyramine, adrenal rebuilder, garlic, IV Meyers's > Coctail, IV chelation, cidin, Spiro, Niacinamide, > Chromium picolinate so many pills that I'm too full to eat so > I drink a low carb protein shake. After three years of all > this I finally found a place to get HBOT and within a few > weeks I knew that I felt better than I ever had and have > continued to progress from being bedridden to being up and > about able to shop, etc. I'm not totally recovered but I know > have hope and believe that with the 60 recommended > treatments, diet, and exercise I'm finally going to beat Lyme > disease. Hope this was helpful and I will try to answer any > other questions. Thanks...... .Kerry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Caijiao, I presently go to a clinic and the oxygen therapy is administered by a MD. The chamber is soft, I'm not sure of the pressure but I saw a regulator that was 4.5. That was probably the amount of oxygen. I stay in the chamber for 2 hours somedays and two 1-1/2 hour sessions on other days. I can go every day if I can afford it. This MD uses a microscope and looks at your blood and shows you if you have any problems. My blood is very coagulated with yeast eating my WBC's and too many RBC's from not getting enough oxygen. That's why I am glad to hear that there is the possibility of purchasing an inexpensive portable oxygen machine that is used with a stationary bike in the near future. I read about it in Dr West's Aug 2009 Health Alert publication. I will ask about the pressure when I go this week and let you know. My MD also said that everything I paid to her for HBOT treatment could be applied to the purchase of one for around $15,0000.00. There is so much benefit from oxygen than just killing the lyme. I have experienced herx's but after each one I come back feeling stronger and stronger. Because of the pollution in the area where I live and the high incidence of cancer I will probably always try to continue oxygen therapy since there is medical research that oxygen kills cancer cells. Also. this MD is also treating autistic children and I have seen some children that have spoken for the first time since being on HBOT. ________________________________ From: caijiao cj zhao <caijiao@...> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:27:30 AM Subject: Re: [ ] oxygen therapy  Kerry, what is the exact protocol of the HBOT treatment you are going through (hard vs. soft chamber, air pressure, frequency of dive, ...)? Do you get your treatments at a clinic or at home? I am wondering if the HBOT protocol you are using to treat Lyme disease is similar to the ones some parents with autistic kids got all excited about.  From: Kerry Dye <specialtyhitches> Subject: Re: [ ] oxygen therapy @group s.com Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:09 PM  In my excitement from the first positive results from a treatment I was not specific enough and probably somewhat over exaggerated with using the " all current recommended treatments " . I appreciate you getting me to clarify this because I would not want to misinform anyone. Since july 06 when I was really green and knew nothing about Lyme I went to many Drs including infectious disease Drs at Mayo Clinc. I went to a LLMD and a ND and have read the books The Top 10 Lyme Disease Treatments and Dr Singleton's Lyme Disease Solution among others. I have not done the marshal protocol but my Vit D level is already very low anyway. No rife machine. My antibiotic protocol included IV and oral antibiotics: doxicycline, minocycline, zithromax, biaxin, amoxicillin. I don't remember them all but I stayed on antibiotics for up to 3 months consecutively but not in the beginning. I'm sure you know this if my PC Dr had given me the right antibiotics for the right length of time when I initially got the tick bite I probably wouldn't have chronic lyme. I've taken flagyl, malarone, all kinds of supplements for inflammation, detoxifying, etc. I'm taking as many of the supplements and trying diets that the books recommended including magnesium, Alkalyme to balance my PH, probiotics, CoQ10, EFA's, Reservatrol, Samento, Cumanda, oak leaf extract, Nattokinase , Ultra InflamX, Maltic Acid, B-12 with folate &  all B vitamins, Dr Daily Vitamins, Spectroami no powder, Cholestyramine, adrenal rebuilder, garlic, IV Meyers's Coctail, IV chelation, cidin, Spiro, Niacinamide, Chromium picolinate so many pills that I'm too full to eat so I drink a low carb protein shake. After three years of all this I finally found a place to get HBOT and within a few weeks I knew that I felt better than I ever had and have continued to progress from being bedridden to being up and about able to shop, etc. I'm not totally recovered but I know have hope and believe that with the 60 recommended treatments, diet, and exercise I'm finally going to beat Lyme disease. Hope this was helpful and I will try to answer any other questions. Thanks...... .Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Kendra, I'm not sure that I understand your question but I do have an oxygen machine that I sleep with every night at 3 lilers/min. I have continued using some supplements to build my immune system especially beta glucan and am on the diet Eating by Your Blood type and also a yeast free diet. ________________________________ From: " L. Richey, MD, ND " <valerie.richey@...> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:57:54 AM Subject: Re: [ ] oxygen therapy  Kendra, I would be interested in knowing what oxygen treatment you are using. You mentioned hyperbaric oxygen. Are you also using something else? Thanks! On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM, kerrybd17 <specialtyhitches>wrote: > > > Hello, I am replying from a hyperbaric oxygen machine. I also have oxygen > at home. Since starting 6 weeks ago I can't find words to express how much > this has helped and I believe will be the cure . I was very sick in bed > since the tick bite in July 06. Nothing helped from antiobiotics to all > current recommended treatments. I can hardly contain myself & keep from > shouting to everyone about my recovery from being bedridden to almost back > to normal especially my energy level. Stll dealing with some pain but I > believe that my diet will also help to improve that. I have info about a > fairly inexpensive way to have oxygen at home if anyone is interested. > Thanksbe unto god who Always helps us to triump beause of Jesus Christ!!! My > prayers go out to all who are suffering. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hi Kerry, I really have very few biases when it comes to fighting Chronic Lyme. I am always willing to learn new things and change how I think about things. Three years ago I thought Rife was bunk and that if you couldn't cure it with a pill from the doctor it wasn't curable. Today I moderate a 500+ rife group! Who knew? So I would personally love to hear how you are doing for better or worse in your healing course! Thanks > Re: [ ] oxygen therapy > > , > You don't owe me any thanks. I didn't elaborate on my > experience for your benefit because you are obviously very > knowledgeable and have your own " bias " no matter what I say. > I did want to clarify it for any other readers. In the Health > Alert Aug 2009 issue by Dr Bruce West there is an article > about oxygen therapy and the possibility of an inexpensive > machine being developed for purchase to use at home with a > stationary bike. This will probably be my last input on any > subject since there are those who are a much better authority > and have the resources to invest in making it public. > God Bless you all...........Kerry >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Milena, no harm done. I took no offense having been an " idiot " most of my life! So I would be the LAST PERSON to throw stones at anyone ELSE! :>) No time to respond to your query at this moment--but I WILL respond very soon!! Hope this finds you well! ..And the best to all in this wonderful online support group family! ~Louise ________________________________ From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...> candidiasis Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 8:39 AM Subject: Oxygen Therapy Louise, My primary reason for this email is to apologize to you.  I am sorry for attacking you in this forum. You did nothing wrong, you only talked about what Wil has done for you and how much better you are doing.  It was wrong of me and I feel very bad. The depression and irritability I deal with on a daily basis -- some days being better or worse than others -- can get me mad at the world. If you are not too upset and don't mind giving me some information and suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, I totally understand. I went to Wil's web site and couldn't find information on the oxygen therapy supplement. What is it and what does it do? Any information on the other products you get for him would be nice too. Sincerely, Milena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Milena, I do plan on responding to your request prob tomorrow. So sorry, been swamped with work.. Take care, talk soon! XOXO Louise ________________________________ From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...> candidiasis Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Oxygen Therapy Louise, I appreciate and look forward to hearing what you have to say.......by the way, with your kind spirit there is no way you could ever be considered an idiot. We make life mistakes, but move on from there and try to do better. Hope you are well too:-) Milena ________________________________ From: Everett <louise_everet93@...> " candidiasis " <candidiasis > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 3:03:10 PM Subject: Re: Oxygen Therapy  Milena, no harm done. I took no offense having been an " idiot " most of my life! So I would be the LAST PERSON to throw stones at anyone ELSE! :>) No time to respond to your query at this moment--but I WILL respond very soon!! Hope this finds you well! ..And the best to all in this wonderful online support group family! ~Louise ________________________________ From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...> candidiasis Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 8:39 AM Subject: Oxygen Therapy Louise, My primary reason for this email is to apologize to you.  I am sorry for attacking you in this forum. You did nothing wrong, you only talked about what Wil has done for you and how much better you are doing.  It was wrong of me and I feel very bad. The depression and irritability I deal with on a daily basis -- some days being better or worse than others -- can get me mad at the world. If you are not too upset and don't mind giving me some information and suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, I totally understand. I went to Wil's web site and couldn't find information on the oxygen therapy supplement. What is it and what does it do? Any information on the other products you get for him would be nice too. Sincerely, Milena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Milena, I am seriously swamped. I do not type fast at all, and have a number of things to tell you to encourage you re: the AOT and its amazing effectiveness on many levels: with myself, my daughter and some friends as well. (This could include some other superlative testimonials I have heard of its use throughout the world!) So. [There is specific protocol to follow with MMS/AOT, but it is very easily done. I think you already know how cheap it is: 9 months to a year's supply for me only $30! It only kills pathogens, chelates heavy metals and more. Addresses radiation particles as " heavy metals. " It is natural as chlorine dioxide is produced by our bodies from the food that we eat. Jim Humble chemist inventor figured a way to release more of it, the rest is history. If you could CALL ME at 443-540-3980 I can talk a LOT faster than I can type! I can also multi-task with my hands while I talk to you, which would help me a great deal! I hate putting you off, but use of phone would help both of us, and at my end, hugely.. So call anytime. IF when you do so it's not a good time for me (am on the clock for my company for instance), then we can reschedule for a mutually agreeable one. HOPE THIS IS OK WITH YOU! Hope to hear from you SOON!! XOXOX ~Louise PS I think Wil mentions AOT in the DIET section of his website. It ought to also be listed in the products section (however he names that). His contact info should be on the website somewhere; and if you can't find it then call me please if you would. The AOT comes with its citric acid activator and easy to understand instruction booklet.. Wil walks people through the protocol so it is a WADING in, NOTHING difficult at all!! (Hope this helps!!!) PPS ANYONE ELSE wants to call me for info, that is fine too.. Just know I am mega busy but WILL make time for you asap! PPPS I take Wil's Latero Flora, 100+ Probiotics, 70+ Colloidal Minerals, AOT and will be adding on his colon cleanse asap.. I also follow his recommended diet with almost no exceptions. ________________________________ From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...> candidiasis Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Oxygen Therapy Louise, I appreciate and look forward to hearing what you have to say.......by the way, with your kind spirit there is no way you could ever be considered an idiot. We make life mistakes, but move on from there and try to do better. Hope you are well too:-) Milena ________________________________ From: Everett <louise_everet93@...> " candidiasis " <candidiasis > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 3:03:10 PM Subject: Re: Oxygen Therapy  Milena, no harm done. I took no offense having been an " idiot " most of my life! So I would be the LAST PERSON to throw stones at anyone ELSE! :>) No time to respond to your query at this moment--but I WILL respond very soon!! Hope this finds you well! ..And the best to all in this wonderful online support group family! ~Louise ________________________________ From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...> candidiasis Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 8:39 AM Subject: Oxygen Therapy Louise, My primary reason for this email is to apologize to you.  I am sorry for attacking you in this forum. You did nothing wrong, you only talked about what Wil has done for you and how much better you are doing.  It was wrong of me and I feel very bad. The depression and irritability I deal with on a daily basis -- some days being better or worse than others -- can get me mad at the world. If you are not too upset and don't mind giving me some information and suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, I totally understand. I went to Wil's web site and couldn't find information on the oxygen therapy supplement. What is it and what does it do? Any information on the other products you get for him would be nice too. Sincerely, Milena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 mms is not chlorine supposedly, but take a whiff of some clorox. Then mix your glass of mms. See if you can smell a difference.... greg > > Milena, I am seriously swamped. I do not type fast at all, and have a number of things to tell you to encourage you re: the AOT and its amazing effectiveness on many levels: with myself, my daughter and some friends as well. (This could include some other superlative testimonials I have heard of its use throughout the world!) So. [There is specific protocol to follow with MMS/AOT, but it is very easily done. I think you already know how cheap it is: 9 months to a year's supply for me only $30! It only kills pathogens, chelates heavy metals and more. Addresses radiation particles as " heavy metals. " It is natural as chlorine dioxide is produced by our bodies from the food that we eat. Jim Humble chemist inventor figured a way to release more of it, the rest is history. > > If you could CALL ME at 443-540-3980 I can talk a LOT faster than I can type! I can also multi-task with my hands while I talk to you, which would help me a great deal! I hate putting you off, but use of phone would help both of us, and at my end, hugely.. > > So call anytime. IF when you do so it's not a good time for me (am on the clock for my company for instance), then we can reschedule for a mutually agreeable one. > > HOPE THIS IS OK WITH YOU! Hope to hear from you SOON!! > > XOXOX > ~Louise > PS I think Wil mentions AOT in the DIET section of his website. It ought to also be listed in the products section (however he names that). His contact info should be on the website somewhere; and if you can't find it then call me please if you would. The AOT comes with its citric acid activator and easy to understand instruction booklet.. Wil walks people through the protocol so it is a WADING in, NOTHING difficult at all!! (Hope this helps!!!) > PPS ANYONE ELSE wants to call me for info, that is fine too.. Just know I am mega busy but WILL make time for you asap! > PPPS I take Wil's Latero Flora, 100+ Probiotics, 70+ Colloidal Minerals, AOT and will be adding on his colon cleanse asap.. I also follow his recommended diet with almost no exceptions. > > > ________________________________ > From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...> > candidiasis > Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 8:19 AM > Subject: Re: Oxygen Therapy > > Louise, > > I appreciate and look forward to hearing what you have to say.......by the way, > with your kind spirit there is no way you could ever be considered an idiot. We > make life mistakes, but move on from there and try to do better. > > > Hope you are well too:-) > Milena > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Everett <louise_everet93@...> > " candidiasis " <candidiasis > > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 3:03:10 PM > Subject: Re: Oxygen Therapy > >  > Milena, no harm done. I took no offense having been an " idiot " most of my life! > So I would be the LAST PERSON to throw stones at anyone ELSE! :>) > > No time to respond to your query at this moment--but I WILL respond very soon!! > > Hope this finds you well! ..And the best to all in this wonderful online support > group family! > ~Louise > > ________________________________ > From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...> > candidiasis > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 8:39 AM > Subject: Oxygen Therapy > > Louise, > > My primary reason for this email is to apologize to you.  I am sorry for > attacking you in this forum. You did nothing wrong, you only talked about what > Wil has done for you and how much better you are doing.  It was wrong of me > and I feel very bad. The depression and irritability I deal with on a daily > basis -- some days being better or worse than others -- can get me mad at the > world. > > If you are not too upset and don't mind giving me some information and > suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, I totally understand. > > I went to Wil's web site and couldn't find information on the oxygen therapy > supplement. What is it and what does it do? Any information on the other > products you get for him would be nice too. > > Sincerely, > Milena > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Louise, I will call you:-) Not sure when. I have a lot going on now, but I definitely will. XOXO, Milena ________________________________ From: Everett <louise_everet93@...> " candidiasis " <candidiasis > Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 2:14:41 PM Subject: Re: Oxygen Therapy Milena, I am seriously swamped. I do not type fast at all, and have a number of things to tell you to encourage you re: the AOT and its amazing effectiveness on many levels: with myself, my daughter and some friends as well. (This could include some other superlative testimonials I have heard of its use throughout the world!) So. [There is specific protocol to follow with MMS/AOT, but it is very easily done. I think you already know how cheap it is: 9 months to a year's supply for me only $30! It only kills pathogens, chelates heavy metals and more. Addresses radiation particles as " heavy metals. " It is natural as chlorine dioxide is produced by our bodies from the food that we eat. Jim Humble chemist inventor figured a way to release more of it, the rest is history. If you could CALL ME at 443-540-3980 I can talk a LOT faster than I can type! I can also multi-task with my hands while I talk to you, which would help me a great deal! I hate putting you off, but use of phone would help both of us, and at my end, hugely.. So call anytime. IF when you do so it's not a good time for me (am on the clock for my company for instance), then we can reschedule for a mutually agreeable one. HOPE THIS IS OK WITH YOU! Hope to hear from you SOON!! XOXOX ~Louise PS I think Wil mentions AOT in the DIET section of his website. It ought to also be listed in the products section (however he names that). His contact info should be on the website somewhere; and if you can't find it then call me please if you would. The AOT comes with its citric acid activator and easy to understand instruction booklet.. Wil walks people through the protocol so it is a WADING in, NOTHING difficult at all!! (Hope this helps!!!) PPS ANYONE ELSE wants to call me for info, that is fine too.. Just know I am mega busy but WILL make time for you asap! PPPS I take Wil's Latero Flora, 100+ Probiotics, 70+ Colloidal Minerals, AOT and will be adding on his colon cleanse asap.. I also follow his recommended diet with almost no exceptions. ________________________________ From Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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