skin problems

[Guest guest]

deare mary ann i to have a bit of a zit problem what do the initials stand

for ? i laugt out loud at your joke from ruth.

[Guest guest]

mary ann,

Have you had your ovaries checked for cysts? Adult acne, along with excessive

facial hair, bloating, weight gain etc (though you didnt mention these

symptoms) -- can be a sign of polycystic ovary disease.

I was put on a higher estrogen birth control bill and my symptoms have

lessened greatly. I am 36.

--kathleen HYPO

In a message dated Wed, 1 Mar 2000 1:20:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, " Ann

" <ramathomas@...> writes:

> Hi,

> Since being diagnoised with hyper thyroid nearly six years ago I'v had

> problems with my skin breaking out. I didn't have this much problem as

> a teenager so it is unsettling to have this concern at 41. I have

> found that MSM rubbed on my face daily keeps my skin very soft and

> nearly acne free. I have to be religious (oops I mentioned the R word)

> about using it daily otherwise the effects are not as dramatic. I've

> tried several different types of MSM and found fragrance free with non

> parabens as perservatives works best for me.

>

> Ann

>

> ladrisczill-@... wrote:

> original article:hyperthyroidism/?start=42

> 83

> > Hi and group:

> > How does a person go about finding out if he/she has a liver

> problem.. I

> > recently picked up a book on herbal remedies, with the main

> motivation of

> > finding some kind of help for my skin. It seems that my face is

> constantly

> > breaking out and I can't seem to find anything to help with this

> problem. I

> > was surprised to find that many herbalists will immediately tell you

> to take

> > different things to help with your liver function. Then when i

> copied out

> > the new supplement list iwas drawn to the segment that put in

> there

> > about the liver and ways to help improve liver function. I was also

> > surprised that something was said regarding poor liver function that

> could

> > eventually trigger graves disease. So are there tests available to

> find out

> > if there is a problem with the liver and if there are , what kind of

> doctor

> > do you go to for that?

> > I am also curious as to what kind of doctor to go to , to find out

> about

> > estrogen/testosterone levels, are such tests available? And what

> type of

> > doctor administers these types of tests? I also am considering

> having the

> > tests dones that show what levels of nutrients are lacking in my

> body, also

> > wondering what type of doctor administers these tests? If this is

> all

> > answered in the archives let me know, and i will just go there and do

> a

> > search, Thank you,

> > PS I just scheduled my first acupuncture consultation, and also found

> out

> > that my insurance covers it, will let you know if i find out anything

> new.

>

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[Guest guest]

Wow!

I have polycystic ovarian disease as well! I was diagnosed 8 years before I

developed Graves! I've read about the " axis " of glands before and suspected

that once one goes wrong, the other glands are at risk. Hmmm.

in Portland

[Guest guest]

Dear Ann,

I've never heard of MSM for the skin--how did you find out about this? I

think I'll try it . . .

AntJoan

[Guest guest]

, Me too have Polycystic ovarian disease and developed Graves 3 years

ago. Glad to hear i'm not alone..

Sandy

[Guest guest]

kathleen

i know you were not talking to me, but, i have all of these symptoms minus

the facial hair. should i get tested for polycystic ovarian disease, or

would it show up on a papsmear?

mary margaret

[Guest guest]

Margaret,

I THINK papsmears only show STDs or types of cancer. I don't believe the

cysts would show but maybe the doctor could physically touch your ovary and see

if it is an abnormal size. Cysts make them bigger.

Maybe one of the nurses here can explain more about a papsmear??

--kathleen

In a message dated Sun, 5 Mar 2000 1:18:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Notsed8@... writes:

> kathleen

> i know you were not talking to me, but, i have all of these symptoms minus

> the facial hair. should i get tested for polycystic ovarian disease, or

> would it show up on a papsmear?

> mary margaret

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[Guest guest]

Dear Kathleen,

About Pap smears, they can diagnose cancer, precancerous lesions and

some but not all kinds of infections. They only do STD screens if you ask

for them.

I think an exam by MD might reveal the cysts, but often they are too

small to palpate or are easily missed by a Dr. in a hurry. I don't know if

there are scans now that would show a problem. In the past they'd insert a

tiny tube inside your tummy and scope it out, literally (that's why they

call it a laporascopy). Otherwise, you will at time get really sick, with

fever and abd. pain and go for emergency surgery and find it out that way.

I have been out of surgical nursing many years, so there may be diagnostics

they do now to determine this that I'm not aware of.

Like most things, I've discovered the medical community doesn't have

many answers for alot of health conditions.

Since cysts are usually walled off infections and hypo/hyper thyroid is

considered by some as a chronic low grade infection invading certain body

organs. These could be two sides of the same coin. It seems good old

dandelion/burdock for 3 weeks on and 1 week off for about 6 months might do

the trick. If you are prone to yeast however, you must be sure to take

acidophilus and if necessary an anti-fungal herb at the same time.

Just some ideas, not sure if I'm right so I checked in my medical

dictionary. Here's the definiton of a cyst. a closed sack or pouch filled

with fluid, semifluid or solid material resulting from a birth anomaly,

obstruction of a duct or from parasitic infection.

Ovarian cysts can contain an enormous amount of fluid and if not removed

can prove fatal because of twisting of the pedicle, which causes gangrene or

because of pressure.

The one thing I would add is see if you can get this checked out

thoroughly by your Dr. but if he doesn't liste, here are some things you

might want to add to the herb regime. Be sure to add an

antifungal/antiparasitic herb-Black Walnut, raw pumpkin seeds, cloves,

cinnamon, tea tree oil etc. You might want to go to a web site and see what

the usual " clease " program is for someone who suspects parasites. It's a

long draw out procedure, I don't know the details.

Here's hoping you don't have ovarian cysts. The symptoms for the

ovarian cyst is also the same symptoms for many things like low

progesterone. It could be other things as well, and most people probably

die with they cysts, never knowing they had any.

Hope some of this is helpful anyway,

Le Ann

[Guest guest]

www.naturalhealingsolutions.com

skin problems

> I have just rrecently learned of candida and am beginning treatment.

> Right ow, my most troublesome problem is the skin infections I have

> all over my scalp, ear, face, lips. Any remedies to rid this problem?

> I'm getting extremely frustrated because it's spreading so much,

> really affecting my physical appearance.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Before investing in food grade hydrogen peroxide, have you tried

wiping the areas with 3% hydrogren peroxide to kill the bacteria? It

may take a couple of days to see the results, but as long as it is

topical only, the added stabilizers shouldn't harm you or your skin.

I have used this before when I have a stress outbreak of boil

blisters/or whatever they are, and it clears up much more quickly

than any prescribed topical potion that a doctor gave me.

> I have just rrecently learned of candida and am beginning

treatment.

> Right ow, my most troublesome problem is the skin infections I have

> all over my scalp, ear, face, lips. Any remedies to rid this

problem?

> I'm getting extremely frustrated because it's spreading so much,

> really affecting my physical appearance.

[Guest guest]

<PRE>what are the symtoms on your scalp?

[Guest guest]

<PRE>actually 12% food grade peroxide is perfect for this purpose!

[Guest guest]

I've had pretty bad psoriasis for the last 4 years and its most likely

because of the candida.... both diseases seemed to hit me at the same time

along with arthritis.... But of course none of my fu*kin skin doctors have

any brains to angolige the candida connection... So what do they do? they

give me steroidal cream which is probably causing the candida to thrive even

more.. Which raises the question.....should we really listen to our doctors

these days? We know more then them...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Message: 2

Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:12:06 -0000

From: " jppsunshine " <jppsunshine@...>

Subject: skin problems

I have just rrecently learned of candida and am beginning treatment.

Right ow, my most troublesome problem is the skin infections I have

all over my scalp, ear, face, lips. Any remedies to rid this problem?

I'm getting extremely frustrated because it's spreading so much,

really affecting my physical appearance.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

[Guest guest]

> <PRE>what are the symtoms on your scalp?

I kind of like dry scalp, bu it's thick sores and at times it starts

to ooze. I'm miserable with the canstant itching and nothing I've

tried has worked.

[Guest guest]

Perhaps this is a situation where you need to refer or work with a

practitioner experienced in this area. This type of issue oftens a

multifaceted approach and any energetic approach alone may struggle.

Kelsey PhD

QXCI User Manual Author, Advanced Trainer

Visit www.qxcisynergy.co.uk for tech infos

Skin problems

Case Study: - A client had Acid Reflux for over 10 years, treating it

with antacids, her General Practitioner sent her for tests and as a

result she had to have her stomach removed saying that there was a

blockage by way of a cancerous growth. That was10 years ago. She

developed a particularly nasty skin problem where the skin is thin,

itchy and flakes away. Her arms and legs are very swollen. The lady

has had steroids to releive the itching, but not the swelling, nor

did they do anything for the appearance of the skin. She is also on

monthly injections for B12. The QX identifies bowel problems. She

now takes a liver support, but I am inexperienced in this type of

problem and would welcome any information or advise.

Many thanks.

Kath .

.............................................

[Guest guest]

Hi - I have a few questions for anybody who can answer...

I have skin break-outs - itchy bumps that drive me crazy. When the

dermatologist first biopsied the bumps, the University lab diagnosed

it as an allergic reaction.

They are relieved by cortisone cream. The heaviest dosage. I try not

to use it too much, but sometimes there is no other choice. When I

first got these bumps, in 1997, the allergist put me on prednisone.

Which also helped but, well, you probably know about pred. So I took

myself off of it.

In my mind - this skin allergy was possibly the first manifestation

of my Lyme disease. Slowly but surely the allergy affected me more

and more. I have read on this group about people who have awful

itching problems. It is really one of my most severe clinical

indications - along with chronic fatigue and hypercoagulation.

Perhaps this is caused by the cytokine release causing inflammation?

My Igenex test came back:

Lyme IgM Positive

23-25 kDa +

31 kDa +++

39 kDa +/-

41 kDa +/-

45 kDa +

58 kDa +

66 kDa +

Lyme IgG Negative

39 kDa +/-

41 kDa +

58 kDa +/-

66 kDa ++

Does the +/- mean positive or not?

Negative for IgG and IgM antibodies

Negative for Babesia and Erlichiosis

My doctor called this " pretty positive " .

I am thinking about having the RiBb test done. Has anyone had

experience with that test?

Sorry for the long post - Laureen

[Guest guest]

Nina,

I have skin problems and have tried many things to moderate success. I would

love to know more about the products that brought you success.

[Guest guest]

Pityrosporum folliculitis is a skin condition where fungus/yeast gets

into the hair follicles causing acne and itching. If you have this you

most likely would beniffit from using the dietary recomendations on

this web site. Outer manifestations of yeast/fungal issues, vaginal

yeast, thrush, and skin infections, in my experience, have always been

connected to an inner diggestive fungal/yeast problem.

>

> anyone ever heard of pityrosporum folliculitis? any insight would be

appreciated. thanks.

[Guest guest]

looking for some advice/experience from others:

After more than a year on antibiotics, and 1.5 years of Buhner protocol, I still

have a lot of skin problems that seem related to Lyme (started right after tick

byte or during treatment). I'm from Europe where skin problems seem to be far

more prevalent with Lyme.

Most of my connective tissue has disappeared over the last few years, especially

in the face and the pads of hand/feet/shins etc. I have tried Buhners collagen

support protocol, but to no avail.

A new problem that developed over the last year is a few sores in the skin of my

face. It looks a bit like a +/- 5 mm bump (infection) under the skin. From time

to time it opens and some clear or slightly yellow, very sticky fluid comes out.

The sores are not painful or itchy. The problem is that they don't heal, the

small wound closes for a few days and than it starts all over again. There is no

blood or 'pus', maybe that is why it doesn't heal. Really depressing ...

I also have smaller sores on my scalp, mostly near the neckline and on top. The

pores, sebacious glands or hair follicles in the scalp seem to produce a

toothpaste-like substance on a daily basis. It is nearly dry, slightly greasy

material with grey or a bit yellowish color. This itches because the hard

material 'clogs' the pores.

Reading on internet there are too many options to choose from ;(

Seems it can be related to infection or gut / circulation problems (I have

those, so ...).

I have visited a dermatologist who was not interested in the problem. He

prescribed acne cream (funny - he first lectured me that 1 year of antibiotics

for Lyme was way too much, and than writes down an ABX prescription for three

months for a skin problem ...). This acne cream does not seem to work at all.

I also have an eye infection that has been treated with chloramphenicol ABX

cream two times, which doesn't help (so is the infection spirochetal? this eye

also has persistent floaters).

Does anyone recognize these issues, know what it is or how to treat it? I'm

thinking of trying a topical Smilax preparation for my skin, as this is used to

treat many skin problems. No idea how to use it, maybe prepare a decoction or

mix it with Aloe Vera cream?

[Guest guest]

I may or may not have any clues to the skin issues. I will just share what I

have experienced...

I have had the scalp issues (although without the stuff coming out) and constant

sores and rash like patches mostly on my shoulders and chest. They never seem to

heal and at times itch like crazy. I also have the collagen issues and have

tried the Buhner collagen protocol with no changes.

The only time my sores went away was when I addressed my adrenal problems with

Isocort. They completely went away. However, I was told the Isocort or any form

of HC was not good for my adrenals and should rely on more supplement support of

the adrenals to build them up instead of shutting them down and becoming

dependent upon the HC (not sure about this). So I weaned off the Isocort and all

the sores came back. I would love any feedback on the HC issue with the adrenals

and what might be best.

From my reading, it is pretty much a given that adrenal issues go along with the

Lyme and needs to be addressed separately. This would seem so in my case. Also

Candida is a possible cause of the sores/skin issues as well, so another avenue

to look at. And then underlying all of that is the heavy metals.....it just goes

on.

As for the collagen, I am now trying the Life Extension Fast Acting Joint

Support, Biosil and a few of what Buhner had in his protocol. It is a desperate

attempt to save and hopefully rebuild whatever collagen is left.

Jane

>

> looking for some advice/experience from others:

>

> After more than a year on antibiotics, and 1.5 years of Buhner protocol, I

still have a lot of skin problems that seem related to Lyme (started right after

tick byte or during treatment). I'm from Europe where skin problems seem to be

far more prevalent with Lyme.

>

> Most of my connective tissue has disappeared over the last few years,

especially in the face and the pads of hand/feet/shins etc. I have tried Buhners

collagen support protocol, but to no avail.

>

> A new problem that developed over the last year is a few sores in the skin of

my face. It looks a bit like a +/- 5 mm bump (infection) under the skin. From

time to time it opens and some clear or slightly yellow, very sticky fluid comes

out. The sores are not painful or itchy. The problem is that they don't heal,

the small wound closes for a few days and than it starts all over again. There

is no blood or 'pus', maybe that is why it doesn't heal. Really depressing ...

>

> I also have smaller sores on my scalp, mostly near the neckline and on top.

The pores, sebacious glands or hair follicles in the scalp seem to produce a

toothpaste-like substance on a daily basis. It is nearly dry, slightly greasy

material with grey or a bit yellowish color. This itches because the hard

material 'clogs' the pores.

>

> Reading on internet there are too many options to choose from ;(

> Seems it can be related to infection or gut / circulation problems (I have

those, so ...).

>

> I have visited a dermatologist who was not interested in the problem. He

prescribed acne cream (funny - he first lectured me that 1 year of antibiotics

for Lyme was way too much, and than writes down an ABX prescription for three

months for a skin problem ...). This acne cream does not seem to work at all.

>

> I also have an eye infection that has been treated with chloramphenicol ABX

cream two times, which doesn't help (so is the infection spirochetal? this eye

also has persistent floaters).

>

> Does anyone recognize these issues, know what it is or how to treat it? I'm

thinking of trying a topical Smilax preparation for my skin, as this is used to

treat many skin problems. No idea how to use it, maybe prepare a decoction or

mix it with Aloe Vera cream?

>

[Guest guest]

knot_weed - If you pop one of the 'blisters' just before it bursts, after you

dab away the clear liquid, do you see what looks like a tiny pit in the center,

almost like a root pit? You may need to get out your magnifying loop and ask a

very very good friend to look closer, using gloves and a splash visor. (Sorry if

this is too graphic.)

If so, you may have a wart-inducing virus. Not all warts look the same. Some

have blister lenses that splay multiple small blister-like wounds over an area,

just like you describe.

If it's a wart, it's probably viral. I'm afraid the Buhner protocol may not help

with this kind of coinfection. I would seek an infectious disease specialist and

ask them to determine whether it's viral, and if so, find out what can be

prescribed. As a last ditch effort, I personally might by some otc docosanol and

see if that works.

With regards to the toothpaste-like excretions... You may want to look to what

you are eating. Gluten and high fructose corn syrup are often culprits for

clogged pores. You may be having a reaction to a food you're eating. It might be

worth doing an elimination diet.

http://www.webmd.com/allergies/allergies-elimination-diet

When you say your connective tissue is disappearing - that can mean a lot of

things. Could you be more specific? If you are overweight, this too could be

exacerbating connective tissue problems, especially if you are experiencing

plantar fasciitis (irritation of the foot padding). Plantar fasciitis is pretty

common with weight problems and can be exacerbated by lyme-related organisms.

Some questions, assuming you are taking at least the core Buhner protocol from

the book:

Are you taking any nattokinase or lumbrokinase?

Are you taking any glucosamine sulfate?

Good luck.

>

> looking for some advice/experience from others:

>

> After more than a year on antibiotics, and 1.5 years of Buhner protocol, I

still have a lot of skin problems that seem related to Lyme (started right after

tick byte or during treatment). I'm from Europe where skin problems seem to be

far more prevalent with Lyme.

>

> Most of my connective tissue has disappeared over the last few years,

especially in the face and the pads of hand/feet/shins etc. I have tried Buhners

collagen support protocol, but to no avail.

>

> A new problem that developed over the last year is a few sores in the skin of

my face. It looks a bit like a +/- 5 mm bump (infection) under the skin. From

time to time it opens and some clear or slightly yellow, very sticky fluid comes

out. The sores are not painful or itchy. The problem is that they don't heal,

the small wound closes for a few days and than it starts all over again. There

is no blood or 'pus', maybe that is why it doesn't heal. Really depressing ...

>

> I also have smaller sores on my scalp, mostly near the neckline and on top.

The pores, sebacious glands or hair follicles in the scalp seem to produce a

toothpaste-like substance on a daily basis. It is nearly dry, slightly greasy

material with grey or a bit yellowish color. This itches because the hard

material 'clogs' the pores.

>

> Reading on internet there are too many options to choose from ;(

> Seems it can be related to infection or gut / circulation problems (I have

those, so ...).

>

> I have visited a dermatologist who was not interested in the problem. He

prescribed acne cream (funny - he first lectured me that 1 year of antibiotics

for Lyme was way too much, and than writes down an ABX prescription for three

months for a skin problem ...). This acne cream does not seem to work at all.

>

> I also have an eye infection that has been treated with chloramphenicol ABX

cream two times, which doesn't help (so is the infection spirochetal? this eye

also has persistent floaters).

>

> Does anyone recognize these issues, know what it is or how to treat it? I'm

thinking of trying a topical Smilax preparation for my skin, as this is used to

treat many skin problems. No idea how to use it, maybe prepare a decoction or

mix it with Aloe Vera cream?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> knot_weed - If you pop one of the 'blisters' just before it bursts, after you

dab away the clear liquid, do you see what looks like a tiny pit in the center,

almost like a root pit? You may need to get out your magnifying loop and ask a

very very good friend to look closer, using gloves and a splash visor. (Sorry if

this is too graphic.)

sometimes there is a small soft 'pit' with a pale yellowish color.

btw. they don't look like blisters and they don't 'burst', it is more like a red

bump that leaks some liquid through a tiny crack in the the skin (probably when

skin above it gets too fragile by washing face or something).

> If so, you may have a wart-inducing virus. Not all warts look the same. Some

have blister lenses that splay multiple small blister-like wounds over an area,

just like you describe.

OK, I will check what my MD thinks, just to be sure. But if the dermatologist

does not recognize anything special, I guess my MD will not know either.

> With regards to the toothpaste-like excretions... You may want to look to what

you are eating. Gluten and high fructose corn syrup are often culprits for

clogged pores. You may be having a reaction to a food you're eating. It might be

worth doing an elimination diet.

> http://www.webmd.com/allergies/allergies-elimination-diet

could be; I have tested as sensitive to gluten (started after my ABX) and used a

gluten-free diet for about a year, mostly because of severe gut problems. This

year I switched to low-gluten diet, because gluten-free is tough and expensive.

I'm using bread again, but it is from a different grain ('spelt' - probably not

an english word) that is less allergenic. Maybe I have to go back to fully

gluten-free.

> When you say your connective tissue is disappearing - that can mean a lot of

things. Could you be more specific? If you are overweight, this too could be

exacerbating connective tissue problems, especially if you are experiencing

plantar fasciitis (irritation of the foot padding). Plantar fasciitis is pretty

common with weight problems and can be exacerbated by lyme-related organisms.

I'm a male size 171 cm, 48 years. Before the tick byte (5 years ago) my weight

was about 63 kg, which is already quite skinny. That went down to about 55 kg

which is quite scary; currently it stabilizes at 57-58kg which is definitely

underweight for my size.

The disappearing is most apparent in the face, under the eyes etc. On other

places like hand/feet/shins the result is that the skin gets fragile and is

damaged/bruised easily, e.g. by handling small tools or softly bumping my leg

against something. These bruises take months to heal, if ever (circulation

problem?). btw, blood clotting of wounds looks pretty normal, no problem with

that.

> Some questions, assuming you are taking at least the core Buhner protocol from

the book:

> Are you taking any nattokinase or lumbrokinase?

no, but I'm thinking about starting nattokinase (any suggestion what to buy? I

usually buy stuff from iHerb). I think I have circulation problems, my rbc's

look sticky under the microscope.

> Are you taking any glucosamine sulfate?

yes, as part of the collagen support.

thanks for your reply!

[Guest guest]

See responses below.

I'm just tossing things out here, so if they sound off base, it's because I'm

not a doctor and I'm just being a sounding board...

> sometimes there is a small soft 'pit' with a pale yellowish color.

> btw. they don't look like blisters and they don't 'burst', it is more like a

red bump that leaks some liquid through a tiny crack in the the skin (probably

when skin above it gets too fragile by washing face or something).

....

> OK, I will check what my MD thinks, just to be sure. But if the dermatologist

does not recognize anything special, I guess my MD will not know either.

Reply:

It still might be a virus - perhaps one of the herpes variants. Many herpes

variants only happen after immune system compromise, like getting shingles after

hodgkins chemo.

....

> could be; I have tested as sensitive to gluten (started after my ABX) and used

a gluten-free diet for about a year, mostly because of severe gut problems. This

year I switched to low-gluten diet, because gluten-free is tough and expensive.

I'm using bread again, but it is from a different grain ('spelt' - probably not

an english word) that is less allergenic. Maybe I have to go back to fully

gluten-free.

Reply:

Spelt is just another wheat. Sometimes, just having bulk rice flour be in a bin

next to the bulk wheat flour in the natural foods store is enough for

cross-contamination to occur - especially if someone puts the wrong scoop in the

wrong bin. Unfortunately for those of us who have to avoid it, that usually

means total wheat abstention.

> I'm a male size 171 cm, 48 years. Before the tick byte (5 years ago) my weight

was about 63 kg, which is already quite skinny. That went down to about 55 kg

which is quite scary; currently it stabilizes at 57-58kg which is definitely

underweight for my size.

>

> The disappearing is most apparent in the face, under the eyes etc. On other

places like hand/feet/shins the result is that the skin gets fragile and is

damaged/bruised easily, e.g. by handling small tools or softly bumping my leg

against something. These bruises take months to heal, if ever (circulation

problem?). btw, blood clotting of wounds looks pretty normal, no problem with

that.

Reply:

That _is_ thin.

As a child, did your skin break easily, splitting between the toes after a hot

bath? Are you able to touch your thumb to your wrist in one direction or

another? Have you been tested for type 4 (vascular) ehlers danlos? It's a

genetic condition, and type 4 has been genotyped, so it can be easily diagnosed.

Alternatively it could be a form of chemical sensitivity. You may remember Shell

no-pest strips from the 1970's. Vapona was the constituent chemical used to kill

flies. All they had to do was land on a yellow plastic bar inside the paper

hanger, and within hours, the fly was dead on the ground. Unfortunately, it also

killed pet birds and reptiles too - just by being in the same room. They didn't

even have to touch the bar.

In a very few cases, some children would get unexplained bruises that would

never heal within weeks of being inside a house with just a single such strip

hanging in a hallway or foyer. Again, they just had to be in the same house.

Once again, it's a genetic predisposition, but unfortunately, there is no

genotype known for it. The strips were taken off the market after a law suit

where one child died. The good news was that all you had to do was remove the

strips and the kids got better. However to this day, there are related

pesticides used in apartment buildings, restaurants, shops - everywhere - that

are nearly identical in structure. You could be manifesting a chemical

sensitivity brought on by a combination of genetic predisposition and duration

and intensity of exposure to a similar pesticide.

If you live in an apartment complex or near a restaurant, do you know what they

are using as pesticides? It might be worth investigation. I suspect pesticides

are even more appropriately regulated in Europe than they are in the US, so it

may not be problematic for you.

> ... but I'm thinking about starting nattokinase (any suggestion what to buy? I

usually buy stuff from iHerb). I think I have circulation problems, my rbc's

look sticky under the microscope.

Reply:

I get nattokinase from vitacost, the nsi brand. I've worked up to 6000 FU per

day, 3 caps @ 2000FU daily. It's great stuff. I think of it as a cornerstone

supplement for me. Your mileage may vary. Surely there are distributors for

something similar in Europe?

[Guest guest]

In trying to figure out my own hair loss with itchy red (can have odor) scalp

problem) .. like I dont want to lose all my hair !! Ive learned that most

eczema, psoriasis and other skin conditions are auto immune related .. over

active immune system most likely due to a pathogen like Lyme or whatever else is

activing our immune systems to the point of causing these and so many other

problems..

Ive tried so many things to get rid of it, but the best luck Ive had to even

control it is the use of Iodine which you can get at any drug store walmart etc,

10 percent typically, use once or twice a day on effected areas and see if that

helps, I put mix it with my shampoo, 2 parts shampoo, one part Iodine. Iodine

does effect the thyroid so watch for any odd symptoms..

Hope this helps.. cynthia

[Guest guest]

I also found that I have had a huge increase of enviornmental sensitivities- and

I used to think the idea of envior. ses. was silly- I now get red itchy scalp

and skin break outs on the scalp in reaction to the shampoo ingredients and soap

ingredients- so I recommend clearing out any products that aren't as basic and

natural as possible immediately- no laural sulfates no dyes no perfumes etc. if

you can't eat it or pronounce it eliminate it and see if the symptoms improve

and reintroduce a little after that to see if you are on the right track. Two

days ago I tried a " normal " shampoo with tea tree oil- yeah it had laural

sulfates- and I am still paying for it...

re: body odors/hair odors etc.- often comes from the die off and toxin overload-

and the pores and lymph glands try to get rid of the toxins- some days I have to

wash at least 2 or 3 times- (and apparently due to some other good advice I just

found I need to get more 'cleaners for the lymphs on board and vitamin e in

bucket loads )which seems ridiculous but really helps me destress! I also am

careful to use tom's deoderant- the plain one- and never never antipersperant. I

used to never have to worry about these things once upon a time. lyme is so

humbling. good luck