Re: Collegen Support against spirochetes

[Guest guest]

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> Bruhner says that " The most important things to remember intreating

lyme infection are (in order of importance): 1) introducea strong and aggressive

collagen support protocol. This will helpprotect the body from the many symptoms

that come from collagen destruction by the lyme spirochetes. " I am wondering

what anyone has found to be

> effective in this area. I am interested in rebuilding cartlidge as well.

I have tried almost anything, without result. I used all the Buhner suggestions

except that I used less pregnenolone, because I'm cautious with hormones. Also

tried some other suggestions for connective tissue support, no improvement

either.

I have been losing connective tissue for about three years now and unable to

stop or reverse the process. I did notice some improvement from using an

infrared light panel for the skin of my face, this makes some of the smaller

wrinkles caused by collagen loss to disappear so probably it has a small effect

on the upper layer of the skin. But it does not help with the loss of deeper

connective tissue.

I don't know why the protocols don't work; maybe it is a malabsorption issue (I

lost a lot of weight after getting lyme), hormonal problems or maybe the bugs

eat away at the collagen fast then my body can replace it.

for cartilage, glucosamine and MSM are probably the first choice.

[Guest guest]

What kind of collagen protocol have you used?

On Feb 20, 2010, at 4:08 AM, knot_weed wrote:

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> > Bruhner says that " The most important things to remember

> intreating lyme infection are (in order of importance): 1)

> introducea strong and aggressive collagen support protocol. This

> will helpprotect the body from the many symptoms that come from

> collagen destruction by the lyme spirochetes. " I am wondering what

> anyone has found to be

> > effective in this area. I am interested in rebuilding cartlidge

> as well.

>

> I have tried almost anything, without result. I used all the Buhner

> suggestions except that I used less pregnenolone, because I'm

> cautious with hormones. Also tried some other suggestions for

> connective tissue support, no improvement either.

>

> I have been losing connective tissue for about three years now and

> unable to stop or reverse the process. I did notice some

> improvement from using an infrared light panel for the skin of my

> face, this makes some of the smaller wrinkles caused by collagen

> loss to disappear so probably it has a small effect on the upper

> layer of the skin. But it does not help with the loss of deeper

> connective tissue.

>

> I don't know why the protocols don't work; maybe it is a

> malabsorption issue (I lost a lot of weight after getting lyme),

> hormonal problems or maybe the bugs eat away at the collagen fast

> then my body can replace it.

>

> for cartilage, glucosamine and MSM are probably the first choice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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> What kind of collagen protocol have you used?

I used about everything recommended in Healing Lyme for collagen support, except

that I used no pregnenolone, or a lower dose.

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol - We're all different and respond differently, but I've had great luck

with Buhner's recommendations  ... been following the collagenous tissue

support protocol in his book to a tee (including pregnenalone and DHEA) at his

recommended dosages and frequencies. I was in excruciating pain and almost

completely disabled from this disease. It's been 8 months and my improvement is

dramatic in all areas. I'm slowly reducing my core protocol herbs to a low

maintenance level, but continue with the full collagenous tissue support

recommendations. This has all been in addition to and in conjunction with

antibiotics per my LLMD. It's been worth every $ that I've spent. Luckily, I was

able to tolerate all of the above. Mainly, I was very consistent in following my

protocol ... and for me it seems to have worked. I hope you find some

combination that works for you.

From: CarolH <wellnalive2@...>

Subject: [ ] Collegen Support against spirochetes

Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 7:38 AM

 

Bruhner says that " The most important things to remember

intreating lyme infection are (in order of importance): 1) introducea strong and

aggressive collagen support protocol. This will helpprotect the body from the

many symptoms that come from collagen destruction by the lyme spirochetes. " I

am wondering what anyone has found to be

effective in this area. I am interested in rebuilding cartlidge as well.

Thanks. Carol

[Guest guest]

In addition to Buhner's Collagenous tissue recommendations, my llmd told me to

take a specific form of Magenesum ... Magnesium Glycinate. The magnesium

supposedly helps cells produce metabolic energy, supports optimum nerve

function, helps muscles relax properly and helps maintain a healthy heartbeat.

The Glycine (Glycinate) is used by the body to form collagen - a key protein in

cartilage and connective tissue and helps with absorption of the magnesium in

the intestinal track.

From: CarolH <wellnalive2@...>

Subject: [ ] Collegen Support against spirochetes

Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 7:38 AM

 

Bruhner says that " The most important things to remember

intreating lyme infection are (in order of importance): 1) introducea strong and

aggressive collagen support protocol. This will helpprotect the body from the

many symptoms that come from collagen destruction by the lyme spirochetes. " I

am wondering what anyone has found to be

effective in this area. I am interested in rebuilding cartlidge as well.

Thanks. Carol