Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 you mention the eye wash from Stephania. I just brewed my first batch yesterday. I started with 4 grams of the root and boiled in 16 oz distilled water down to 8 oz distilled water. Just one drop burned my eyes (although the burning went away after a few min). Today I diluted it before using which felt better. Can you describe how you made the eye wash (if different) and what your experience has been with it? I have used colloidal silver with 5% DMSO which feels good but hasn't really done much for symptoms. deb > > > > > So what knotweed is best to kill babesia? Ie most tolerated by the body. > > The best knotweed to use as far as Buhner is concerned is... knotweed lol. > He says to buy real knotweed rather than buying resveratrol. Resveratrol is obtained by extraction from either japanese knotweed or red wine. He says to try not to buy resveratrol but rather to buy actual japanese knotweed. 1st Chinese is the place that he has previously suggested to purchase it from. I buy my Japanese knotweed from them in bulk and get my empty capsules from my local Chinatown district for cheap. I use a capsule maker I bought for $20 off the net(I don't like the taste of the raw herbs so I make capsules out of them). > > I buy most of my Buhner herbs bulk from 1st Chinese. It is so much cheaper that way. On the downside it can be a pain in the butt to continually make capsules but what a savings. I think I paid about $250 for a years worth of herbs from them. (red root, knotweed, cats claw, artemisia annua, stephania, andrographis) > > They have a few different choices for the bulk product. You can buy it in powder, cut and sift or concentrated powder. > The powder is just that...the herb ground into a powder. > The cut and sift product is just slices of the dry herb that you would have to cut up. Most people don't like this form. I bought my stephania in this form so I could make an eyewash. To turn it into powder I took some of the slices and ground it in my coffee maker. This works quite well for me but others have said their coffee grinder wasn't strong enough. > The concentrated powder is not in the natural form. It has been processed and its list of ingredients includes corn among other things. If you have any allergies you might want to ask about the ingredients before you buy this form. > > Seems to me that you would want to use artemisia annua to treat babesia. > Make sure its the annua variety and not the absynthe. It is kinda confusing at first because the names are so similar. Buhner says that artemisinun is not as good as the whole herb. However I believe that you have to take more of the whole herb. > > I have been treating with the herbs for a while. I recently added minocyline to the mix along with serrapeptase and GSE. It feels like I was getting ahold of the Lyme disease when along came the night sweats and shortness of breath again. I think that the abx was getting the Lyme disease under control and that gave the babesia a chance to make a comeback. I am using 9 caps 4xs day of artemisia annua herb from 1st chinese. Within a week the symptoms were gone. This time I will take it for a few months just to make sure. > > BTW after taking artemisia annua for 2 weeks our stomachs will start to make enzymes that destroy the artemisia before it is digested. It takes a week after stopping it before the enzymes are not created anymore. For that reason many prescribers of artemisia annua say to pulse it. IMHO if you are taking it in capsule form you should follow this pulsed regime but if using the tincture this may not apply because the tinctures are generally absorbed before they hit the gut thus no enzymes are formed. > > Hope that helps. > Take Care, > Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 May I ask what the eye wash is being used for? Is it for floaters? Because I have a whole mess of them! -Sonya Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed [ ] Re: Knotweed brand to buy.Buhner list - stephania eye wash you mention the eye wash from Stephania. I just brewed my first batch yesterday. I started with 4 grams of the root and boiled in 16 oz distilled water down to 8 oz distilled water. Just one drop burned my eyes (although the burning went away after a few min). Today I diluted it before using which felt better. Can you describe how you made the eye wash (if different) and what your experience has been with it? I have used colloidal silver with 5% DMSO which feels good but hasn't really done much for symptoms. deb > > > > > So what knotweed is best to kill babesia? Ie most tolerated by the body. > > The best knotweed to use as far as Buhner is concerned is... knotweed lol. > He says to buy real knotweed rather than buying resveratrol. Resveratrol is obtained by extraction from either japanese knotweed or red wine. He says to try not to buy resveratrol but rather to buy actual japanese knotweed. 1st Chinese is the place that he has previously suggested to purchase it from. I buy my Japanese knotweed from them in bulk and get my empty capsules from my local Chinatown district for cheap. I use a capsule maker I bought for $20 off the net(I don't like the taste of the raw herbs so I make capsules out of them). > > I buy most of my Buhner herbs bulk from 1st Chinese. It is so much cheaper that way. On the downside it can be a pain in the butt to continually make capsules but what a savings. I think I paid about $250 for a years worth of herbs from them. (red root, knotweed, cats claw, artemisia annua, stephania, andrographis) > > They have a few different choices for the bulk product. You can buy it in powder, cut and sift or concentrated powder. > The powder is just that...the herb ground into a powder. > The cut and sift product is just slices of the dry herb that you would have to cut up. Most people don't like this form. I bought my stephania in this form so I could make an eyewash. To turn it into powder I took some of the slices and ground it in my coffee maker. This works quite well for me but others have said their coffee grinder wasn't strong enough. > The concentrated powder is not in the natural form. It has been processed and its list of ingredients includes corn among other things. If you have any allergies you might want to ask about the ingredients before you buy this form. > > Seems to me that you would want to use artemisia annua to treat babesia. > Make sure its the annua variety and not the absynthe. It is kinda confusing at first because the names are so similar. Buhner says that artemisinun is not as good as the whole herb. However I believe that you have to take more of the whole herb. > > I have been treating with the herbs for a while. I recently added minocyline to the mix along with serrapeptase and GSE. It feels like I was getting ahold of the Lyme disease when along came the night sweats and shortness of breath again. I think that the abx was getting the Lyme disease under control and that gave the babesia a chance to make a comeback. I am using 9 caps 4xs day of artemisia annua herb from 1st chinese. Within a week the symptoms were gone. This time I will take it for a few months just to make sure. > > BTW after taking artemisia annua for 2 weeks our stomachs will start to make enzymes that destroy the artemisia before it is digested. It takes a week after stopping it before the enzymes are not created anymore. For that reason many prescribers of artemisia annua say to pulse it. IMHO if you are taking it in capsule form you should follow this pulsed regime but if using the tincture this may not apply because the tinctures are generally absorbed before they hit the gut thus no enzymes are formed. > > Hope that helps. > Take Care, > Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Sonya, I use this product for floaters; " Senior Eye Vision " - brand is Puritan's Pride. It has Lutein and Bilberry and a mess of other vitamins, which you can see at the website. I have no financial interest in this product. It works! If I run out, or stop taking them, the floaters come right back. As long as I take them I have no floaters. Also since taking them my night vision has improved some. I still prefer not to drive at night, but previously my nite vision was so bad I felt like I was driving with my eyes closed. I know Stephania root is recommended by Buhner, and it probably works. I bought a big bag of the root, and it sits in my frig, cuz I never got around to trying it! Good luck, ellen > > May I ask what the eye wash is being used for? Is it for floaters? Because I have a whole mess of them! > -Sonya > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Great, thank you Ellen. Is this an eye drop or a pill supplement? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed [ ] Re: Knotweed brand to buy.Buhner list - stephania eye wash Sonya, I use this product for floaters; " Senior Eye Vision " - brand is Puritan's Pride. It has Lutein and Bilberry and a mess of other vitamins, which you can see at the website. I have no financial interest in this product. It works! If I run out, or stop taking them, the floaters come right back. As long as I take them I have no floaters. Also since taking them my night vision has improved some. I still prefer not to drive at night, but previously my nite vision was so bad I felt like I was driving with my eyes closed. I know Stephania root is recommended by Buhner, and it probably works. I bought a big bag of the root, and it sits in my frig, cuz I never got around to trying it! Good luck, ellen > > May I ask what the eye wash is being used for? Is it for floaters? Because I have a whole mess of them! > -Sonya > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Pills- the bottle says to take 4 pills a day, I only take 2. When you go to the website http://www.puritan.com/lutein-158/senior-eye-vision-002862?NewPage=1 you'll see they have a buy 2 get 3 free. they have this often. good deal. ellen > > > > May I ask what the eye wash is being used for? Is it for floaters? Because I have a whole mess of them! > > -Sonya > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 > Can you describe how you made the eye wash (if different) and what your experience has been with it? I have used colloidal silver with 5% DMSO which feels good but hasn't really done much for symptoms. I used the eyewash a few times but it didn't seem to do much for me however I had a bad case of.. conjuctivitis maybe... my upper and lower eyelids swelled until they were almost closed. It lasted for almost a week. I finally pulled out the eyewash which felt so soothing. The swelling went away a day or two after I started this regime. I found a site on the web with a recipe for the eyewash. I didn't write this myself. I have copied the instructions I used below. Its pretty well the same as Debs: How to Use Stephania Root as a Natural Herbal Eyewash or Tea for Lyme Disease How to use the herb called Stephania root which is also known as Han Fang Ji, as an eyewash or as a tea to drink. Instructions Things You'll Need: • 4 oz. Stephania root • 16 oz. water • 2 quart pot • 1 large sheet of cheese cloth • 1 16 oz sterilized jar, with a tight seal • 1 label • 1 felt pen • 1 drinking cup 1. Step 1 Place 16 oz. of water into a 2 quart pot and bring to a boil. It is best to use chlorine free water. 2. Step 2 Once the water is at a full boil add the Stephania root to the water. Reduce heat to medium. The water should have tiny bubbles to show it is still boiling. Boil for 20 minutes. Taking care to watch the pot to insure it does not boil dry. The volume of water may reduce by as much as half. This is fine. It is concentrating the herb properities. This is called a Decoction. 3. Step 3 Separate the liquid (tea) from the solid (the sliced Stephania Root) by straining through the cheese cloth, into the sterilized jar. The jar can be sterilized by boiling it in a pot of water for 10 minutes. 4. Step 4 If using this herb as a tea to drink, pour up to 6 oz of the tea which has just been completed into a cup or mug. Drink when it was cool enough, not to burn your tongue. If making an eye wash, just one more step. 5. Step 5 Seal the jar tightly. On the label write, the date, the ingredients, and what you are wanting to use this for. For this, it would state: Eye Wash, Water, Stephania root, and the date. Put into refrigerator. Stays fresh for 3 days. 6. Step 6 This herbal eye wash can be used up to 4 times a day. Many people have found the Stephania root eye wash soothing, and beneficial when using it for Lyme Disease .. Tips & Warnings • When using this tea as an eye wash, use separate cotton balls for each eye. Do not use the same cotton ball for both eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 This is the same " recipe " I found on ehow.com (http://www.ehow.com/how_5237109_use-eyewash-tea-lyme-disease.html). I have to comment that I went to a Chinese herbalist to buy the Stephania root and they generally sell by grams and not ounces. This recipe calls for 4 oz which is well over 100 grams. So I believe the author meant 4 grams (which is in line with Buhner's mention of the eye wash in his " Healing Lyme " book. Still, even the 4 grams is a lot because as I mentioned, it really burned. I am diluting the decoction before using. I have floaters and light sensitivity which is why I am trying this but too soon to tell if it does more than soothe. deb > > > > > > Can you describe how you made the eye wash (if different) and what your experience has been with it? I have used colloidal silver with 5% DMSO which feels good but hasn't really done much for symptoms. > > I used the eyewash a few times but it didn't seem to do much for me however I had a bad case of.. conjuctivitis maybe... my upper and lower eyelids swelled until they were almost closed. It lasted for almost a week. I finally pulled out the eyewash which felt so soothing. The swelling went away a day or two after I started this regime. > > I found a site on the web with a recipe for the eyewash. I didn't write this myself. I have copied the instructions I used below. Its pretty well the same as Debs: > > How to Use Stephania Root as a Natural Herbal Eyewash or Tea for Lyme Disease > > How to use the herb called Stephania root which is also known as Han Fang Ji, as an eyewash or as a tea to drink. > > > Instructions > Things You'll Need: > � 4 oz. Stephania root > � 16 oz. water > � 2 quart pot > � 1 large sheet of cheese cloth > � 1 16 oz sterilized jar, with a tight seal > � 1 label > � 1 felt pen > � 1 drinking cup > 1. Step 1 > Place 16 oz. of water into a 2 quart pot and bring to a boil. It is best to use chlorine free water. > 2. Step 2 > Once the water is at a full boil add the Stephania root to the water. Reduce heat to medium. The water should have tiny bubbles to show it is still boiling. Boil for 20 minutes. Taking care to watch the pot to insure it does not boil dry. The volume of water may reduce by as much as half. This is fine. It is concentrating the herb properities. This is called a Decoction. > 3. Step 3 > Separate the liquid (tea) from the solid (the sliced Stephania Root) by straining through the cheese cloth, into the sterilized jar. The jar can be sterilized by boiling it in a pot of water for 10 minutes. > 4. Step 4 > If using this herb as a tea to drink, pour up to 6 oz of the tea which has just been completed into a cup or mug. Drink when it was cool enough, not to burn your tongue. If making an eye wash, just one more step. > 5. Step 5 > Seal the jar tightly. On the label write, the date, the ingredients, and what you are wanting to use this for. For this, it would state: > Eye Wash, Water, Stephania root, and the date. Put into refrigerator. Stays fresh for 3 days. > 6. Step 6 > This herbal eye wash can be used up to 4 times a day. Many people have found the Stephania root eye wash soothing, and beneficial when using it for Lyme Disease . > > > Tips & Warnings > � When using this tea as an eye wash, use separate cotton balls for each eye. Do not use the same cotton ball for both eyes. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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