Amino's in energy, immunity and kreb

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

  I'm braving it again trying some amino acids in " trying " to get some

energy.  I purchased kg pure powers of 1. AKG stack .. a blend of Arginine

AK, Creatine Ak, Gluaimine Ak, L-Taurin (free form) and Ornithine Ak.  Also, a

kg of  2. Magnesium Creatine Chelate and a kg of 3. Ribose .. took a bit to

get the real stuff.  I got these about a year ago and have had them in the frig

on ice so to say.  I cant recall the specific research Id done at the time, but

was focused on the Krebs cycle and trying to get some energy and these where

major players in the research Id done as limited as it was concerning the Krebs

cycle.  But, the first time I took them at normal dose I had such a bad

intestinal reaction that lasted for 5 days .. it took this long to even attempt

it again at 1/20th the dose's.  

 

  I'm wondering if you have any knowledge of these, the possibilities, or what

might be missing from the brew so to say or possible neg effects ?  Since I'm

taking 150mg or less of each except ribose I intend on increasing dose slowly

and finding the threshold I can take .. but common sense tells me if its going

to increase energy or have any positive Cardio effects it would show at least

somewhat within a few weeks.

 

  Also, if no negative effects, I'm thinking of mixing the 3 together into a

hand formed caplets using a bit of water and Xatham Gum which is a great natural

binder .. do you know if the mix and the addition to water to

make tablets would have any negative changing effects of the amino's and

glucose.

 

  I take 1 gm of L-Arginine twice daily anyway to help dilate and tone my blood

vassals since I had a heart attack, unresolved hypertension and constant heart

palps, as well as to try and help my vessel's recover from having Hyper

coagulation for so long.  But, I'm in doubt of any nutrient that can not show

itself outright via effects, as even the well known expensive brands can not be

trusted with anything unless I have a way to test it.  Now these amino's and

ribose I got from Nutrabio.com .. and I talked to one of the owners " Larry "

often and long enough gathering information to trust his product based on his

outright knowledge of what was going on in the sup market, knock-off's, patents

etc.. So, I'm not totally sure of anyone, but more so with this company.

 

  I'm not trying to cure anything, but rather get a bit more functional energy

wise....

 

  Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated..

 

Thank you,

From: knot_weed <tek0nik@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Lyme Disease & AutoimmunityResearchFoundation

(THIS MAY BE THE KEY)

Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:48 AM

 

>

> On the other hand Dr. Mattman was responsible for discovering the Bb L-form

(no cell wall), and although I haven't researched her work as much i'd like to

(yet), she seemed to be a pretty remarkable woman.

yes, she is ...

> I read elsewhere at one point the Fed. moved in on her lab, and shut her work

down. - From what I can tell, it had to do with " too many positive tests " and

frankly might have been a real threat to potentially upset the entire IDSA, CDC

apple-cart.

yes, I'm very curious too regarding what was going on there. First of all, the

FEDs make similar claims sometimes regarding IgeneX - a company that I'm sure

does an excellent job. We have similar stories in Europe trying to discredit the

best Lyme testing labs, e.g. some academics and MD's state that the Labor Koeln

lab in Cologne only reports positive test results, which is plain nonsense but

these stories keep circulating (this lab was founded by prof. Ackermann, who was

far more important for the discovery of Lyme and Borrelia than the Steere

bunch).

Still it is weird that all patients tested positive for Borrelia at the Mattman

lab. My guess is that there was something wrong with the test, but who knows ...

The other explanation is that Bb is everywhere, I don't exclude that possibility

either (would fit somehow with the Harvey & Salvato hypothesis about Lyme

disease).

If everyone tests positive, including many healthy controls, one could doubt the

value of the test ...

> Regarding testing advancements currently, I do like what I am hearing

regarding the research being performed by Dr. Luft at Stoneybrook ~ as

reported by Pam Weintraub.

Sounds good yes, but keep in mind that Luft is also part of the inner

circles around the IDSA. Although he seems to have a more open mind, he was part

of many wrong activities (a bit like Alan Barbour, I guess). With the latest

stories about Tigecycline, efflux pumps etc. keep in mind that this new

antibiotic is a patented cashcow that allows them to rake in millions.

Almost all current academic research is corrupted by money and

corporate/governmen t interests. It is difficult to know if these guys really

believe in their own latest research or just in their wallets.

> And I also came across this article which caught my eye:

> http://tinyurl. com/m557ky

yes, I'm sure there is widespread denial in the US regarding Lyme statistics.

Guess this research is about a new PCR test though. Generally PCR seems to have

poor sensitivity for blood or urine samples, although some labs claim

sensitivity for urine that is far higher than the 40-60% that current antibody

tests offer.

> Dr. Mattman's Bowen test seems to have been picked up by these guys after her

lab got disolved, and her passing - but I am not 100% on this being exactly the

same thing:

> http://tinyurl. com/5ttb6c

yes, that sounds very similar. How long until the FEDs shut them down?

[Guest guest]

,

I get problems with glutamine, it works in the bowels. I need to take just

little bits.

Taurine and Ornithin is not a problem for me but I started with half of a

capsule.

 

Probably stay on all of them except for glutamine to find out if this is the one

causing problems. Then introduce glutamine in dosing like 1/16 of a teaspoon.

From: knot_weed <tek0nik (DOT) com>

Subject: [ ] Re: Lyme Disease & AutoimmunityResearc hFoundation

(THIS MAY BE THE KEY)

Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:48 AM

 

>

> On the other hand Dr. Mattman was responsible for discovering the Bb L-form

(no cell wall), and although I haven't researched her work as much i'd like to

(yet), she seemed to be a pretty remarkable woman.

yes, she is ...

> I read elsewhere at one point the Fed. moved in on her lab, and shut her work

down. - From what I can tell, it had to do with " too many positive tests " and

frankly might have been a real threat to potentially upset the entire IDSA, CDC

apple-cart.

yes, I'm very curious too regarding what was going on there. First of all, the

FEDs make similar claims sometimes regarding IgeneX - a company that I'm sure

does an excellent job. We have similar stories in Europe trying to discredit the

best Lyme testing labs, e.g. some academics and MD's state that the Labor Koeln

lab in Cologne only reports positive test results, which is plain nonsense but

these stories keep circulating (this lab was founded by prof. Ackermann, who was

far more important for the discovery of Lyme and Borrelia than the Steere

bunch).

Still it is weird that all patients tested positive for Borrelia at the Mattman

lab. My guess is that there was something wrong with the test, but who knows ...

The other explanation is that Bb is everywhere, I don't exclude that possibility

either (would fit somehow with the Harvey & Salvato hypothesis about Lyme

disease).

If everyone tests positive, including many healthy controls, one could doubt the

value of the test ...

> Regarding testing advancements currently, I do like what I am hearing

regarding the research being performed by Dr. Luft at Stoneybrook ~ as

reported by Pam Weintraub.

Sounds good yes, but keep in mind that Luft is also part of the inner

circles around the IDSA. Although he seems to have a more open mind, he was part

of many wrong activities (a bit like Alan Barbour, I guess). With the latest

stories about Tigecycline, efflux pumps etc. keep in mind that this new

antibiotic is a patented cashcow that allows them to rake in millions.

Almost all current academic research is corrupted by money and

corporate/governmen t interests. It is difficult to know if these guys really

believe in their own latest research or just in their wallets.

> And I also came across this article which caught my eye:

> http://tinyurl. com/m557ky

yes, I'm sure there is widespread denial in the US regarding Lyme statistics.

Guess this research is about a new PCR test though. Generally PCR seems to have

poor sensitivity for blood or urine samples, although some labs claim

sensitivity for urine that is far higher than the 40-60% that current antibody

tests offer.

> Dr. Mattman's Bowen test seems to have been picked up by these guys after her

lab got disolved, and her passing - but I am not 100% on this being exactly the

same thing:

> http://tinyurl. com/5ttb6c

yes, that sounds very similar. How long until the FEDs shut them down?