I'm confused

[Guest guest]

It sounds to me like this is the work of one of the people that has been on

the list in the past making ignorant remarks. I cant remember the exact

names, but since they know about and have had possible axcess to the

listserve, its more than likely someone that we have heard from before.

People who do things like this, to me have nothing better or more

constructive to do with their time. They are the type that need to put others

down to feel better about themselves....just imagine what kind of like this

guy must lead!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Please don't post any responses or comments regarding this website.

This person is just looking for this sort of thing to post on his site and to

perpetuate his " mission " . Please realize what sort of impact responding to

this idiot would have.

[Guest guest]

I took a look and all I can say is what an idiot! And that's being very

nice. However I wouldn't recommend sending messages to that ----- (you fill

in the blank with whatever you deem appropriate) because that is what he

wants. How do you diffuse a child throwing a temper tantrum? You ignore

him.

He should be careful considering the legislation regarding hate crimes

against disabled persons and others. However one could consider him

mentally and morally disabled so the legislation could cover him. OK, bad

sarcasm there, but you get my point.

I truly believes that what comes around goes around and he shall reap what

he sows 10 fold.

I'm confused

I found this very offensive,...but very confusing..I couldn't read it

very well...

http://www.wsnet.com/~kunta_sensei/midgetmail.html

[Guest guest]

I would like to know how do people stumble on to these sorts of sites? Patty

I'm confused

>

>

> I found this very offensive,...but very confusing..I couldn't read it

> very well...

>

> http://www.wsnet.com/~kunta_sensei/midgetmail.html

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[Guest guest]

For every page that is shut down, a new one will be constructed. This

is not the first time this has happened. The best way to deal with it is not

to add fuel to the fire. Just let it pass. This guy gets off on setting us

off!

[Guest guest]

A while back a web page by the name of " National Midge Resistance " was

posted with pictures of little people that were stolen off of the web from

fellow lpa members and next to each picture was a wanted poster type

paragraph saying that midgets were about to take over the world and these

people were the ten most wanted and that they should be exterminated before

the revolution of midgets took over the world, as well as other derogatory

statements about us.

Apparently this person took the e-mails that we sent to him protesting his

offensive web site and created another offensive web site. I recognized one

e-mail that a little person sent him about stealing pictures of us off of

the web was against the law and that is how his first web site was shut

down.

I did not read every word I just scanned over it and apparently he has

consulted a lawyer so that we can not do anything this time to shut his web

page down. he removed all traces of identification of the people who sent

him the e-mails as well as parts of the e-mails that he thought were to nice

and added in his own words.

However one post was by the mother of a little person and her husband is a

major league pitcher They were in LPA today I will look up there name.

Dan K or other web experts even if he did not use there name its obvious

that there is probably only one major league pitcher who has fathered a

little person. Can he not get this page shut down even if he omitted names?

Or how about the person who's picture was stolen even if he omitted a name

it's is obvious who that e-mail came from?

Beth Reeves

San , Texas

[Guest guest]

I went to Google.com and typed " born with dwarfism "

in quotes...and this came up.

> I would like to know how do people stumble on to these sorts of

sites? Patty

> I'm confused

> >

> >

> > I found this very offensive,...but very confusing..I couldn't

read it

> > very well...

> >

> > http://www.wsnet.com/~kunta_sensei/midgetmail.html

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Well, I was determined not to do this, it being my first week as a listserv

member, but I feel compelled, as many others have, to comment on this web

guy (even though my opinion may not be popular). First of all, I have no

idea what was happenning prior to now (with pictures, etc. being posted

without permission), and I'm no copyright lawyer. But I am a journalist,

and I do have a strong attachment to the First Amendment, as it critical to

my career. Fortunately or unfortunately, people in this country have the

right to speak their minds-- whether or not what they say is true, false,

or just plain offensive - which is how I would categorize this site. In my

view, I may hate what you say, but I will defend your right to say it. Let

me be clear, I am in no way condoning hate speech or crimes. I recognize

the difference between words or speech protected by the First Amendment and

words or speech that is libelous or slanderous, respectively.

However, in my limited viewing of this website (I got bored several minutes

in to my reading, so I admit, I have not even scratched the surface with

this site, nor do I plan to), I saw much to be offended by, but little that

I wouldn't regard as free speech. Perhaps if I had invested more time

reading the site page for page, I would feel differently.

One of the beautiful things about my job is that I have the power to print

what people say, as they say it, leaving the reader to make conclusions.

Sometimes what they say makes them look good, other times it makes them

look like the ignorant person that they are.

well, that's my two cents, take it or leave it.

-SB

[Guest guest]

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>From: " Alley/Pat " <alleypat@...>

> My primary however, said yes, go back on the Neurontin and if it doesn't

> work in a week or so come see him. <whew>

> Anyway, I'm nursing a sinus/migraine headache.

> Man, my blood pressure was the highest it's ever been. 154/84!!

>

>

Pat-

Neurontin is indicated for use in restless leg syndrome, also for some

migraines. BUT-it can have the side effect of raising the blood pressure!

gail

[Guest guest]

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>From: " Alley/Pat " <alleypat@...>

> My primary however, said yes, go back on the Neurontin and if it doesn't

> work in a week or so come see him. <whew>

> Anyway, I'm nursing a sinus/migraine headache.

> Man, my blood pressure was the highest it's ever been. 154/84!!

>

>

Pat-

Neurontin is indicated for use in restless leg syndrome, also for some

migraines. BUT-it can have the side effect of raising the blood pressure!

gail

[Guest guest]

Klonpin is also used very successfully for RLS....I've been using it for

ages and it's so wonderful to be able to keep my legs still again.

Tatezi

Gail Samples wrote:

>

>

> ----------

> >From: " Alley/Pat " <alleypat@...>

>

> > My primary however, said yes, go back on the Neurontin and if it

> doesn't

> > work in a week or so come see him. <whew>

> > Anyway, I'm nursing a sinus/migraine headache.

> > Man, my blood pressure was the highest it's ever been. 154/84!!

> >

> >

> Pat-

>

> Neurontin is indicated for use in restless leg syndrome, also for some

>

> migraines. BUT-it can have the side effect of raising the blood

> pressure!

>

> gail

>

>

[Guest guest]

<< If it's open, I

have plenty to share about my docs office and lots of questions for

the Seattle bandsters that I can't ask anywhere else.>>

Gennafer, most of us post about general stuff on the SmartBandsters list,

and use the PNWB list only for local issues. If your questions are specific

to the Seattle area, this list is appropriate for you to post. There is also

a SB social list for those who want the social chit-chat. You can find them

both at groups if you do a search for SBSocial or SmartBandsters.

Barb S.

barbooch@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Gen,

I have heard it said over and over that this Board is specifically the Meeting

Notification Board.

That is all I know.

Oregon Bandsters? Van-Port Bandits?

I love all the Doc stuff............

Deborah

I'm confused

I read posts on this site and have SOOOO much to say, but I don't

post often because I was under the impression that this is strictly a

meeting notification board. Personally, I have always thought it a

better idea to have it be a social board, but that's just me and my

big mouth (keyboard). Could someone let me know? If it's open, I

have plenty to share about my docs office and lots of questions for

the Seattle bandsters that I can't ask anywhere else.

Thanks,

Gennafer

[Guest guest]

If it's open, I

> have plenty to share about my docs office and lots of questions for

> the Seattle bandsters that I can't ask anywhere else.

>

> Thanks,

> Gennafer

Gennafer, guess I'm busted. I guess some of us interpret it a bit

loosely, and count on the others to keep us in line. Personally, I

think local issues would be appropriate, but I'm not the moderator or

list-owner.

Jo in Silverdale, who will be coming casual to the bash and doesn't

own any spike heels.

[Guest guest]

I read somewhere that red skinned potaoes are ok because they are

this years crop, while the others are stored for God only knows how

long.

> Did you know that you should avoid baking potatoes but

> that little red-skinned new potatoes are relatively

> benign? My father eats them regularly with no bad

> effects. He eats 'em roasted with olive oil, lemon

> juice, and fresh oregano (Greek style); he eats 'em

> boiled and topped with a little bit of butter and

> fresh parsley. I have even served them to him in a

> stew, and he has never once had a prob with them, even

> when the candida was just beginning to wane. Baking

> potato, on the other hand, made thrush blossom like

> cherry trees in the springtime.

[Guest guest]

Hang in there Dave. I realized I had candida overgrowth in June, and have

been battling everyday. However, my health is improving. Just keep in mind

that while your healing, you will feel miserable some days. This is

" die-off " . A lot of people will begin a protocol and then quit b/c they

become too ill. However, while your body is eliminating the dead yeast and

toxins, it feels very sick and tired. Treat your body well and rest during

this time of healing. Don't give up. I have gone throught major sinus

drainage and stomach pain, but it is all worth it in the end. Now, I jog

almost everyday and I feel great. Somedays, I still experience die off (I

am still on an anti-candida protocol), but the good days outnumber the bad.

Good luck.

-Patty

>From: " Dave Phelps " <dave@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

><candidiasis >

>Subject: I'm Confused

>Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:12:48 +0100

>

>Hi

>

>I am a newby to this group, I stumbled upon the group by searching the net

>for information about Candidiasis.

>

>I am currently suffering from stomach problems, flatulence, fatigue, itchy

>skin and atheletes foot to name a few. My doctor has offered many different

>explanations but has ruled out Candidiasis when I mentioned it to her. It

>is

>strange as the symptoms which are experienced by you guys are the same! So

>far I have had tablets for Gastro Reflux and IBS and none have worked.

>

>I have decided to try the anti candida diet as it can't be a bad thing

>anyway to rid the body of excess yeast (in my opinion) but I am very

>confused. I have never known a diet which has so many variations.

>

>Having previously been on the Atkins diet I know all about starving your

>body of sugars and Carbs but most of the anti-candida diets I have come

>across say you can eat Carrots, Peas and Potatoes which are starchy veggies

>and banned on atkins due to high carb content. I understand there is such a

>thing as good carbs and bad carbs and veggie carbs on the whole are good

>carbs and not refined is this the difference? Some even have conflicting

>views on fruit.

>

>On atkins you are also allowed artificial sweetened products such as

>Splenda

>as they don't impact on blood sugar yet most anti candida diets I have come

>across ban these, or so i think.

>

>I am trying to be very good (and in fact I have lost a stone) but I don't

>know if my efforts to get rid of the Candida is in vain. I have been to the

>local heath food shop and got every recomended anti-fungal and gut

>repairing

>tablet recomended but some diets say take these from day one and others say

>wait until the Candida have died off as the yeast will become immune. I

>have

>also purchased a book called Beat Candida Through Diet by Gill s.

>

>

>Any help greatly appreciated.

>

>Dave

>

>

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what's the difference b/t roasting and baking a potatoe??? (in reference

to the red potatoes)

-Patty

>From: " slickrick605 " <slickrick605@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: I'm Confused

>Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 23:17:09 -0000

>

>

>

>I read somewhere that red skinned potaoes are ok because they are

>this years crop, while the others are stored for God only knows how

>long.

>

>

>

>

>

> > Did you know that you should avoid baking potatoes but

> > that little red-skinned new potatoes are relatively

> > benign? My father eats them regularly with no bad

> > effects. He eats 'em roasted with olive oil, lemon

> > juice, and fresh oregano (Greek style); he eats 'em

> > boiled and topped with a little bit of butter and

> > fresh parsley. I have even served them to him in a

> > stew, and he has never once had a prob with them, even

> > when the candida was just beginning to wane. Baking

> > potato, on the other hand, made thrush blossom like

> > cherry trees in the springtime.

>

>

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Hashimoto's is the autoimmune form of hypothyroidism. Basically, your body

starts producing antibodies that attack the thyroid making it swollen

sometimes and unable to produce adequate hormones. Many of the symptoms are

the same but for me, my TSH is always jumping around all over the place.

I'm pretty sure that eventually my thyroid will die out.

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Barbara Schulz " <beschulz@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: I'm confused

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:06:03 -0000

Are Hashimoto Syndrome and hypothyroidism the same thing or is

Hashimoto a form of hypothyroidism?

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Thanks, ! I go to my G.P. tomorrow afternoon to talk about what to do.

I'll find out my T levels when I get there. I imagine that we will be

scheduling an appt. with an endocrinologist, too.

Barb

K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:

Hashimoto's is the autoimmune form of hypothyroidism. Basically, your body

starts producing antibodies that attack the thyroid making it swollen

sometimes and unable to produce adequate hormones. Many of the symptoms are

the same but for me, my TSH is always jumping around all over the place.

I'm pretty sure that eventually my thyroid will die out.

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Barbara Schulz "

Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: I'm confused

Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:06:03 -0000

Are Hashimoto Syndrome and hypothyroidism the same thing or is

Hashimoto a form of hypothyroidism?

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the test to ask for is anti-TPO, not ANA which I had in the beginning and it

said I didn't have hashi's. So get the first one good luck

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Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: I'm confused

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:55:53 -0800 (PST)

Thanks, ! I go to my G.P. tomorrow afternoon to talk about what to do.

I'll find out my T levels when I get there. I imagine that we will be

scheduling an appt. with an endocrinologist, too.

Barb

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[Guest guest]

The latter, it is a form of hypoT. Sometimes, although it is rare,

Hashi's can manifest as HYPERthyroidism.

Jan

> Are Hashimoto Syndrome and hypothyroidism the same thing or is

> Hashimoto a form of hypothyroidism?

[Guest guest]

I've been listening to the Buhner CD's from the june conference. In the

book, he recommends the core protocol (and most other herbs) be taken

for at least 8 months to a year. On the CD, he says many people get well

in a much, much shorter time. He even tells of one woman getting symptom

free in 2 weeks!! He seems to be suggesting a full dose for 2 months,

then tapering off enough to just keep symptoms at bay. Maybe i am

remembering the book incorrectlly, but the whole subject of how long to

treat is very confusing to me at this time. I've been treating for 9 or

10 months; I 'm a long way from well, though I'm improved.

Perhaps I have more co-infections, perhaps there are other issues that

need to be addressed, ??? I'm jsut confused about what to do at this

point.

I'm currently on artimisinin for babesia. Some improvement in stamina

but I'm still extremely limited.

Jim, I know you are still taking some of the herbs, albiet in smaller

amounts now perhaps. I'm sure I'll figure out what to do next (after the

babesia) but for now, I'm just confused! lol!

jo

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the club Jo. we are all confused at times. Yes, I take much less

now. I am down to only 30 pills a day, plus a couple tinctures and vitamins.

I was up to 93 Capsules a day, plus the rest.

I found that two (2), months on FULL max was not enough for me. I went a

little over 5 months at maximum. (93 pills a day).

I have quit Cat's Claw and some others, at least temporarily. May do some

later, I don't know. But I have improved tremendously from two years ago.

Still not perfect though.

Take care, don't give up.

Jim.

###

wyomin@... wrote:

I've been listening to the Buhner CD's from the june conference. In

the

book, he recommends the core protocol (and most other herbs) be taken

for at least 8 months to a year. On the CD, he says many people get well

in a much, much shorter time. He even tells of one woman getting symptom

free in 2 weeks!! He seems to be suggesting a full dose for 2 months,

then tapering off enough to just keep symptoms at bay. Maybe i am

remembering the book incorrectlly, but the whole subject of how long to

treat is very confusing to me at this time. I've been treating for 9 or

10 months; I 'm a long way from well, though I'm improved.

Perhaps I have more co-infections, perhaps there are other issues that

need to be addressed, ??? I'm jsut confused about what to do at this

point.

I'm currently on artimisinin for babesia. Some improvement in stamina

but I'm still extremely limited.

Jim, I know you are still taking some of the herbs, albiet in smaller

amounts now perhaps. I'm sure I'll figure out what to do next (after the

babesia) but for now, I'm just confused! lol!

jo

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