Folks from Europe- BIO880 thoughts?

[Guest guest]

Just curious for those of you from Europe. What are your thoughts impressions on

the BIO880? What is the discussion on europe on it? Selma who used to frequent

this messageboard and uses buhner's protocol and every thing imaginable /but

would relapse-has gone to the BIO880. She says it is working for her and put is

keeping the lyme in remission for her and her daughter?

Very price and no US practioners right now.

There are some on lymenet that claimed it helped them -but they also all did abx

for several years beforehand it seems.

[Guest guest]

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> Just curious for those of you from Europe. What are your thoughts impressions

on the BIO880? What is the discussion on europe on it? Selma who used to

frequent this messageboard and uses buhner's protocol and every thing imaginable

/but would relapse-has gone to the BIO880. She says it is working for her and

put is keeping the lyme in remission for her and her daughter?

> Very price and no US practioners right now.

>

> There are some on lymenet that claimed it helped them -but they also all did

abx for several years beforehand it seems.

>

I'm from Netherlands and this device is hardly discussed here. I haven't heard

of people who were cured with this treatment, but maybe there are a few (people

get cured with the most strange treatments sometimes ...).

I think the 'science' behind it is all bogus (although they make it sound like

cutting edge science). Biophotons exist, but I don't think this device has

anything to do with biophoton science.

[Guest guest]

P.S.: I'm not doubting that some people get cured, but I think that is more

because of the care and attention of the practioner, and additional treatments

that he is probably using.

Maybe it is good for Americans to point out that alternative medicine is very

popular in Germany, some of it good and some really wacky. Most of it is paid

for by general health insurance (this has its roots in the pre-WWII situation in

Germany) and I think that encourages all kinds of unproven practice.

In most other EU countries only the 'proven' types of alternative medicine are

paid by insurance, and usually only for those with extra coverage. Of course,

what is 'proven' varies continuously and mostly depends on lobbying from the

alternative practioners and opposition from the medical establishment.

The Biophoton is one of many devices that are said to be based on cutting edge

science (usually measuring or treating illness with electromagnetic waves). But

the scientific background stories are mostly nonsense, with often similar

references to some unknown hospital in China, or a company related to NASA or

the Russian space organisation that is using it.

I'm extra sceptical when they claim that they can make a detailed diagnosis at a

distance (e.g. over the phone line), and because the equipment is sold for

prices that are 10x or 100x higher than the real production cost of the

hardware.