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On May 18, 2006, at 5:41 AM, e wrote:

> I dont really want to use synthetic scents

> in my products but I am finding that I have to because people want

> scents

> that I dont think I can really reproduce naturally, such as coconut,

> berries, peach, apple, ocean etc. So if anyone can please help out

> here it

> would be most appreciative. Is it even possible to do this?

Hi e,

I have just recently heard of the concept of 'scent doppelgängers' for

things that one cannot find naturally. I did come across a

surprisingly coconutty-note that was not made from coconut (but where I

left the notes for that evening's work I can't recall), but a couple of

evenings ago I also happened upon a dead ringer for celery seed

serendipitously, and it was a pairing of oakmoss abs. and foenugreek

e.o. Not that I was *looking* for a celery doppelgänger, because there

are extracts of that already, but I was mightily amused and astonished

that two things together can smell just like something they ain't.

Anyway, once I find my scribbled notes for the faux coconut note I'll

let you know...

best

Alfred

in San Francisco

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  • 1 year later...

> Greetings everyone,

> Since 1991, I have been creating Alchemical & Spagyric plant and

> mineral extracts for healing, meditation, and spiritual work. They are

> all for internal use, but some have an essential oil component to

> them. In Spagyrics (plant alchemy) every natural thing is considered

> to have a body, a spirit, and a soul. In the vegetable kingdom,

> essential oils are the soul of the plant.

>

((((MICAH))))

GREAT to have your email addy again and SEE YOU here~~~!!!!!!!

HI!!!!!!

xoxoxoxoxxo

L

where are you living now?

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i need some stuff~

Libby /510-290-4028

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http://www.priestessofalchemy.com

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leavesofjoy <leavesofjoy@...> wrote: Last weekend, I went to the

Aromatic Medicine Seminar put together by

my friend Trinity at the California School of Herbal Studies. It was

so great!!!! Everyone was so friendly, the teachers were excellent,

and I was literally high from delight all weekend. Monday's class with

Mandy Aftel particularly inspired me and helped me to realize that

it's natural perfumery that I'm interested in.

Strength & Wisdom,

leavesofjoy (Micah)

Hi Micah

Ah California school of herbal studies.... This brings back wonderful memories

of Jim Green and Mindy Green...... and some wonderful times there quite a few

years back now....... Is Jim Green still there? I remember Mindy showing very

proudly her stash of truly wonderful aromatic oils this was when aromatherapy

was only just starting its rebirth..... I have some great herbal books by

Jim....Their house, with Wisteria. covering the back porch... the herb garden...

the hissing of sprinklers .... magical times....

So, Mandy Aftel was teaching there...... how great..... I hope she enjoyed her

time there.....

Oh and a warm welcome.... there is plenty to read and absorb.... I don't know

if you know but Anya starts her perfumery course this Oct 6th..... which is full

but she is booking also for the new spring term.... online ....

Any questions don't hesitate to post up .... there is always something new and

interesting being discussed or even if it is already covered a new twist brings

new light......

With every good wish, Janita

Janita Haan Natural Perfume http://www.janitahaan.com tba

http://www.hayspace.co.uk current

Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com

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janita morris <heartinmymouth@...> wrote:

> Ah California school of herbal studies.... This brings back

wonderful memories of Jim Green and Mindy Green...... and some

wonderful times there quite a few years back now....... Is Jim Green

still there?..... I have some great herbal books by Jim....Their

house, with Wisteria. covering the back porch... the herb garden...

the hissing of sprinklers .... magical times....

>

> Oh and a warm welcome.... there is plenty to read and absorb.... I

don't know if you know but Anya starts her perfumery course this Oct

6th..... which is full but she is booking also for the new spring

term.... online ....

Janita,

Thanks for the welcome- I am happy to be here!

The CA Herbal School is now run by the very nice & , who

bought it a few years ago I believe. I had never been there before,

but the word is that they have done great things with the property and

the school, and it is having a rebirth thanks to their efforts.

The garden was amazing, I had to take a deep breath and remind myself

that plants do not move, and that I really did have enough time to

photograph them all! Before that, I had visited the Luther Burbank

farm in Sebastopol, so I returned with a very full camera card!

I was looking at Anya's October course, thinking about it for the next

go-round, although I still have a lot to do to finish with Mandy's

workbook/course. I'm in that torn place between not wanting to stress

out & push myself too much, but also wanting to know EVERYTHING there

is to know RIGHT NOW!

But I do think that the aromatic weekend really set me on a good path,

it was great to learn in person, even the same stuff you've read in

books is somehow understandable with a good teacher, and there were

plenty. What I really came away with, besides the bent towards

perfumery, is that I have a lot to learn, but it is part of what I

already know from herbal healing, it's not some foreign realm that I

am approaching from the outside.

So, that was a big aside, but it's the report of what brought me here,

so thanks for the welcome & listening, all! I'm off to distill a batch

of lavender oil, fun fun fun!

Strength & Wisdom,

leavesofjoy

www.al-kemi.com

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leavesofjoy wrote:

>

> The garden was amazing, I had to take a deep breath and remind myself

> that plants do not move, and that I really did have enough time to

> photograph them all! Before that, I had visited the Luther Burbank

> farm in Sebastopol, so I returned with a very full camera card!

>

> I was looking at Anya's October course, thinking about it for the next

> go-round, although I still have a lot to do to finish with Mandy's

> workbook/course. I'm in that torn place between not wanting to stress

> out & push myself too much, but also wanting to know EVERYTHING there

> is to know RIGHT NOW!

>

Hi Micah

Hey, slow down! :-) I'm going to really emphasize that over and over in

the class. Wait until they see the repetitive and demanding exercises

I'm taking them through. It takes a long time to become a perfumer, you

get more humble as the days go on, the months, the years. It's not

rocket science, but it does demand attention to detail and keen

observational skills, and every aromatic is a new universe.

You're already a gardener, so you're really on the path already, you

know the old saying - you want to slow down, lie down on the ground,

plant a carrot seed. And wait. LOL

Just added your company to the Guild website, under Associate, you're

right near the top, lucky you! Everyone should check out Micah's site,

quite informative and a true journey through alchemy.

> Strength & Wisdom,

> leavesofjoy

> www.al-kemi.com

--

Sincerely, Anya

Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://AnyasGarden.com

Natural Perfumers Guild http://NaturalPerfumersGuild.com

Natural Perfumers 1200+ members Group http://tinyurl.com/78kmv

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  • 2 years later...

Hello all - I wanted to introduce myself as a recent lurker but am now about to

start on Buhner's herbals so wanted to say hi. My story goes that I was bitten

by 2 ticks in Nashville, TN back in 2002. I knew about Lyme but when I looked

up the symptoms and saw flu etc. I thought I was fine as I didn't have that and

didn't notice a rash although the bites were in awkward to spot places! I did

however begin to develop a rash (possibly morphea) on my torso gradually after

the bites (not the same place I was bitten), plus had problems with chest pain,

shortness of breath and pains on soles of feet. Some years later I developed

hip pain, winter fatigue, dizziness and sores in my mouth. Then 5 years after

the bite I went through a stressful patch in my life AND strep throat was going

around a work. I think my immune system took a dive and the Lyme finally had a

party and rendered me to an existence of constant pain and tiredness - I'm sure

you can relate! It took 18 months to find I had Lyme - as what happens with

most people it was chronic fatigue syndrome in their eyes. tested

negative twice, but positive for sensu stricto at Melisa labs in Germany and

very low CD57 (18) confirmed the diagnosis. Have been on antibiotics for 10

months - 6 of them high dose combination therapy (orals only). Am being treated

in Ireland. However had loads of problems with side effects and never managed

full dose for more than a couple of weeks at a time. Have decided to take

another CD57 and then switch to herbals for 3-6 months to see if I get on better

with those. Am currently on anti-parasite herbs for 21 days to start with and

will build up slowly some of Buhner's herbs starting soon. If anyone is based

in Ireland meanwhile do let me know - we have a new group that was set up early

this year and I can send a link back channel.

Well think that's all for now.

All the best,

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Hi,

Welcome to the group. Many people come to the Herbal approach after finding no

(or insufficient) relief from antibiotics.

Hope you find great success!

Check out the links at the home page to find stories of success with

Buhner's Herbal Protocol. {including mine :) }

regards,

ellen

>

> Hello all - I wanted to introduce myself as a recent lurker but am now about

to start on Buhner's herbals so wanted to say hi. My story goes that I was

bitten by 2 ticks in Nashville, TN back in 2002. I knew about Lyme but when I

looked up the symptoms and saw flu etc. I thought I was fine as I didn't have

that and didn't notice a rash although the bites were in awkward to spot places!

I did however begin to develop a rash (possibly morphea) on my torso gradually

after the bites (not the same place I was bitten), plus had problems with chest

pain, shortness of breath and pains on soles of feet. Some years later I

developed hip pain, winter fatigue, dizziness and sores in my mouth. Then 5

years after the bite I went through a stressful patch in my life AND strep

throat was going around a work. I think my immune system took a dive and the

Lyme finally had a party and rendered me to an existence of constant pain and

tiredness - I'm sure you can relate! It took 18 months to find I had Lyme - as

what happens with most people it was chronic fatigue syndrome in their eyes.

tested negative twice, but positive for sensu stricto at Melisa labs in

Germany and very low CD57 (18) confirmed the diagnosis. Have been on

antibiotics for 10 months - 6 of them high dose combination therapy (orals

only). Am being treated in Ireland. However had loads of problems with side

effects and never managed full dose for more than a couple of weeks at a time.

Have decided to take another CD57 and then switch to herbals for 3-6 months to

see if I get on better with those. Am currently on anti-parasite herbs for 21

days to start with and will build up slowly some of Buhner's herbs starting

soon. If anyone is based in Ireland meanwhile do let me know - we have a new

group that was set up early this year and I can send a link back channel.

>

> Well think that's all for now.

>

> All the best,

>

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