Herxing on Buhner

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Hi all - I have been on low dose antibiotics for 3 months followed by high dose

combination meds for 7 months (doxy/zithromax plus occassional flagyl). I

decided to make the switch to Buhner due to side effects caused by antibiotics

such as severe itching, gastro problems and candida. Although I'm starting the

Buhner protocol slowly I have noticed huge herxes happening - even more so than

when I was on prescription meds. All my neuro symptoms and joint pain and

weakness has flared up considerably coupled with a hangover type feeling. I'm

fairly convinced it is a herx rather than worsening from being off antibiotics

as the onset was quick and when I reduced the herbs and took questran the

symptoms died down a little and worsened as soon as I went back up a tablet

again. I am currently only managing 2 x Andragophis, 1 x Reservatrol and 2 x

Cat's Claw a day (although still working on building these up slowly). My

question really is did others have this amount of herxing on herbals even after

being on antibiotics before hand?

As far as I know I just have LD as the other co-infections came up negative

(although I know false negs with co-infections can occur!)

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Oh yeah, I herxed when I started and was still on abx (bicillin 2x/week) at the

time. In addition to the core herbs I added Sarsaparilla and Eleuthero and

those seem to help with herx symptoms. I followed the procedure for increasing

dosages exactly as Buhner suggests so after one month I was up to 4/4x. I had

to stop Andrographis, once I hit the high dose I got hives. I did just add one

tablet a day back to my regimen though and I herxed from that!

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[ ] Herxing on Buhner

Hi all - I have been on low dose antibiotics for 3 months followed by high

dose combination meds for 7 months (doxy/zithromax plus occassional flagyl). I

decided to make the switch to Buhner due to side effects caused by antibiotics

such as severe itching, gastro problems and candida. Although I'm starting the

Buhner protocol slowly I have noticed huge herxes happening - even more so than

when I was on prescription meds. All my neuro symptoms and joint pain and

weakness has flared up considerably coupled with a hangover type feeling. I'm

fairly convinced it is a herx rather than worsening from being off antibiotics

as the onset was quick and when I reduced the herbs and took questran the

symptoms died down a little and worsened as soon as I went back up a tablet

again. I am currently only managing 2 x Andragophis, 1 x Reservatrol and 2 x

Cat's Claw a day (although still working on building these up slowly). My

question really is did others have this amount of herxing on herbals even after

being on antibiotics before hand?

As far as I know I just have LD as the other co-infections came up negative

(although I know false negs with co-infections can occur!)

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> My question really is did others have this amount of herxing on herbals even

after being on antibiotics before hand?

I had very little herxing on Buhner protocol, but strong herxing on ABX which I

took for about a year before starting with Buhner. It is not clear what the

herxing is, the best bet is probably that it is caused by release of toxic

substances when the Bb's die off. My impression is that most people have

stronger herxes with ABX compared to Buhner.

After 1 year of ABX and 1 year of Buhner I still had Lyme (positive Western

Blottest, spirochetes visible in blood). I don't have any clear 'herx' responses

from the herbs, but I do have occasional symptom flares (with unknown cause,

seems to be some kind of cycle).