Re: Herbs and/or antibiotics - to deb

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deb, where can i buy teasel?

[ ] Herbs and/or antibiotics

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> I disagree with the contention that long term antibiotic use destroys the

immune system. I have been treated with many antibiotics over the past four

years, both oral and IV. My immune system was in such a bad state that without

the antibiotics, I could have never managed to come back from Lyme and the four

co-infections I had.

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> I have had no colds and only one virus in all of this time so as long as your

doctor is supplementing your immune system with the proper supplementation,

there is a decent chance that you will eventually be fine. I am also using

Buhner's protocol along with some other herbs my doctor uses and for me, neither

is a panacea. However I have come along way and I could have never come this far

without the antibiotics.

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[Guest guest]

Teasel tincture at Jeans greens that's where Lady Barbara got hers. I'm sure

there are other sources as well.

Hope that's helpful!

Suzanne

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> > HI, well I have been having challenges taking abx. I was on oral doxy for 2

months in the fall; relapsed during the 2nd month on it. Now I'm on IV Rocephin

for 6 weeks [10 days to go]. Was doing well but symptoms re-emerged again this

week. Feeling discouraged. My diet's been good; I've practically gone gluten and

processed sugar-free. Hard to reduce stress with small children at home but I've

tried. I only got lyme last spring -- misdiagnosed 'till October -- suppose that

was long enough to make this very difficult to treat. I know of someone else who

had it for over a year, went on IV Rocephin and recovered completely.

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> > I haven't taken Buhner's herbs yet [except for Resveratol] because the

contraindications said not to take while taking blood thinners. On this IV, I

give myself heparin flushes during the day --- when I do the infusion and there

are times during the day when blood backs up into the tube and I need to flush

it out again with heparin. So I'm waiting 'till off the treatment to do the

cat's claw and the androphagis. Feeling discouraged today; this is hard

sometimes.

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> > I disagree with the contention that long term antibiotic use destroys the

immune system. I have been treated with many antibiotics over the past four

years, both oral and IV. My immune system was in such a bad state that without

the antibiotics, I could have never managed to come back from Lyme and the four

co-infections I had.

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> > I have had no colds and only one virus in all of this time so as long as

your doctor is supplementing your immune system with the proper supplementation,

there is a decent chance that you will eventually be fine. I am also using

Buhner's protocol along with some other herbs my doctor uses and for me, neither

is a panacea. However I have come along way and I could have never come this far

without the antibiotics.

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[Guest guest]

Lady Barbara now makes her own teasel and other herbal tinctures.

I know some sources were posted on Lyme_and_Rife group but can't easily find

them. You might try looking. It was posted around Jan. 11 or 12, I think,

right after the teleseminar by Wood. You can hear a couple audio

seminars about teasel on the www.lymehope.com site.

deb

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[Guest guest]

this is considered a common weed from Connecticut south although it can be

bought as seed and will grow in zone 4 and 5 ........easy to grow ...its

the roots you want at 2 as its a biennial .......and its a spreader ......

I get very upset when I see something so easy to find and so easy to grow

being marketed at such .prices I think you might go to catalogs and

search what companies sell it or just google it teasel seed

sources........seed lasts a few years too

as even if you don't have a yard sprinkle it around roadsides that no

animals graze an old dirt road is perfect and it will not hurt the habitat nor

is it invasive...the finches love it and it is easy to gather seed with

gloves

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Subj: [ ] Re: Herbs and/or antibiotics - to deb

Teasel tincture at Jeans greens that's where Lady Barbara got hers. I'm

sure there are other sources as well.

Hope that's helpful!

Suzanne

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[Guest guest]

I found some sources for teasel.

www.ladybarbara.net

www.jeansgreens.com

www.walkerherbs.com

www.woodlandessence.com

www.mistymeadows.org

www.deltagardens.com (Teasel Flower Essence)

You can find Lady Barbara's info on dosing on

http://www.s159523713.onlinehome.us/Lyme_Disease.htm.

Some people take GSE along with the teasel. Ramp up as always. I believe it is

suggested that you take the GSE 3x a day, at the same time as the teasel dose.

deb

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[Guest guest]

Teasel also grows in my area in California--yes it is along the roadsides.

Tinctures are quite easy to make. I learned it from a local herbalist in her

classes that I attended, but I imagine you can find it online.

You put the herb in approximately* 1/2 water and 1/2 alcohol and basically let

it sit for six weeks. I use a wide mouth canning jar covering the top of the

jar with waxed paper to protect the metal of the jar lid because you will be

turning the jar filled with the herb and alcohol mixture upside down every day.

After six weeks, the alcohol will have extracted the medicinal part of the herb.

Strain and store the finished tincture in an air-tight bottle. Put the remains

of the herb into your compost pile.

*There are formulas for the water/alcohol ratios for each herb in the very old

[1920's] pharmaceutical formularies. The increased alcohol ratio is for herbs

that do not absorb well in water. I imagine this information is available

somewhere on the internet.

Kathleen

Eureka CA

this is considered a common weed from Connecticut south although it can be

> bought as seed and will grow in zone 4 and 5 ........easy to grow ...its

> the roots you want at 2 as its a biennial .......and its a spreader ......

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> I get very upset when I see something so easy to find and so easy to grow

> being marketed at such .prices