Re: Problem with ? - response from Robynn

[Guest guest]

Jim and group,

Yes I can place everyone on moderated status and approve all messages

before they go through to the list. If that is how the majority of

members wants this to work I can switch things over in a day or two.

I know you are personally frustrated because your email program does

not delete any of the footers or makes it impossible to delete

previous messages when you reply. I can only encourage you to look

into an email program that will allow you more control over your

email messages so that you can do this kind of clean up before your

messages are sent to the group so I don't have to do this for you. I

don't mind doing this for you, but I know it causes you a great deal

of frustration.

I do attempt to check the moderated messages at least once a day

usually more during the week. Sometimes there are technical problems

on my end. Computers crash, routers burn out, family deaths occur,

hospital visits take longer than expected, travel accommodations are

different than expected, internet cables are accidentally cut or

turned off by the cable company, very occasionally I am too sick to

check the messages etc. I ask for your patience and kindness.

I would also point out that anyone can create a group here at

Groups. I encourage anyone who would like to do things there own way

to start their own group. I will even offer my assistance in creating

a group for anyone who wants to try regardless of topic.

I wish to hear from other members on whether or not you want all

messages moderated.

Thanks for your time and understanding.

=)

Robynn

-owner

>

> I don't think it is . THe moderator on THIS group goes

through most of it I guess, so it takes a long time, sometimes for

them to get posted. IT makes for a lot of inconsistency on answering

and reading. I feel if SOME of us are being scrutinized and such a

lag time, then ALL should be the same. That way things will be done

in a more timely manner, and much easier for the lyme brains to

comprehend.

>

> jim.

[Guest guest]

Hi Robynn

Maybe I'm totally misreading your email, but I was not at all complaining

about the group being moderated...I didn't know I was being moderated (do

now)...I was just asking if there was something wrong with email or groups

because it seemed as if my emails weren't either getting to where they had to go

or was acting up.

Both have been issues like this before with . My email was not asking if

there were issues with this group or its moderation.

Jaye

Robynn <Robynn@...> wrote:

Jim and group,

Yes I can place everyone on moderated status and approve all messages

before they go through to the list. If that is how the majority of

members wants this to work I can switch things over in a day or two.

I know you are personally frustrated because your email program does

not delete any of the footers or makes it impossible to delete

previous messages when you reply. I can only encourage you to look

into an email program that will allow you more control over your

email messages so that you can do this kind of clean up before your

messages are sent to the group so I don't have to do this for you. I

don't mind doing this for you, but I know it causes you a great deal

of frustration.

I do attempt to check the moderated messages at least once a day

usually more during the week. Sometimes there are technical problems

on my end. Computers crash, routers burn out, family deaths occur,

hospital visits take longer than expected, travel accommodations are

different than expected, internet cables are accidentally cut or

turned off by the cable company, very occasionally I am too sick to

check the messages etc. I ask for your patience and kindness.

I would also point out that anyone can create a group here at

Groups. I encourage anyone who would like to do things there own way

to start their own group. I will even offer my assistance in creating

a group for anyone who wants to try regardless of topic.

I wish to hear from other members on whether or not you want all

messages moderated.

Thanks for your time and understanding.

=)

Robynn

-owner

>

> I don't think it is . THe moderator on THIS group goes

through most of it I guess, so it takes a long time, sometimes for

them to get posted. IT makes for a lot of inconsistency on answering

and reading. I feel if SOME of us are being scrutinized and such a

lag time, then ALL should be the same. That way things will be done

in a more timely manner, and much easier for the lyme brains to

comprehend.

>

> jim.

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[Guest guest]

Robynn, if you put all on moderation and send them thru quickly, maybe

you need about two other volunteers to help moderate so that you can

all take turns and messages go on quickly. I'm a moderator on two

groups that I don't even post on much, but sometimes I get a notice

that a message is waiting and if I see that, I check it and send it on

thru unless it seems inflammatory. Mostly obviously messages don't get

stopped by or others are putting them on through as there are

several moderators.

> >

> > I don't think it is . THe moderator on THIS group goes

> through most of it I guess, so it takes a long time, sometimes for

> them to get posted. IT makes for a lot of inconsistency on answering

> and reading. I feel if SOME of us are being scrutinized and such a

> lag time, then ALL should be the same. That way things will be done

> in a more timely manner, and much easier for the lyme brains to

> comprehend.

> >

> > jim.

>

[Guest guest]

Are you volunteering?

>

> Robynn, if you put all on moderation and send them thru quickly, maybe

> you need about two other volunteers to help moderate so that you can

> all take turns and messages go on quickly. I'm a moderator on two

> groups that I don't even post on much, but sometimes I get a notice

> that a message is waiting and if I see that, I check it and send it on

> thru unless it seems inflammatory. Mostly obviously messages don't get

> stopped by or others are putting them on through as there are

> several moderators.

[Guest guest]

Robynn:

Yes, I think ALL should be moderated if SOME are. Just doesn't make sense

to even reply at times. Don't even know if people check out my replies when

they are two and three days later. Like tonight, MINE are the only replies from

yesterday, the 19th. Everyone elses are from the 20th. Theirs from the 19th

were on here yesterday.

I am using my account for this group as that is what I mainly use it

for. Plus one personal service. I have a hotmail account that I use for 90% of

my stuff, but don't want it bottled up with all these emails. I also have two

other accounts, but don't want to put this group on them either.

I don't know WHY this stupid account won't let me delete older posts on

it. I tried many times, and you can only delete EVERYTHING or nothing. And I

don't like deleting what I am answering, as then others don't know what the heck

you are talking about. I sure don't.

So, I guess everyone just has to keep suffering. But even if they would all

come through at about the time and order they are sent, it would help, to be

sure. At least our Lyme brains wouldn't have to remember for three days what

was written. I can't. And most of the time mine come through two or three days

after I post them. When one comes through the same day, I am shocked.

I have Lyme Aid coming through one of my other accounts in the digest form.

But I don't like that at all.

Take care,

Jim.

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Robynn <Robynn@...> wrote:

Jim and group,

Yes I can place everyone on moderated status and approve all messages

before they go through to the list. If that is how the majority of

members wants this to work I can switch things over in a day or two.

I know you are personally frustrated because your email program does

not delete any of the footers or makes it impossible to delete

previous messages when you reply. I can only encourage you to look

into an email program that will allow you more control over your

email messages so that you can do this kind of clean up before your

messages are sent to the group so I don't have to do this for you. I

don't mind doing this for you, but I know it causes you a great deal

of frustration.

I do attempt to check the moderated messages at least once a day

usually more during the week. Sometimes there are technical problems

on my end. Computers crash, routers burn out, family deaths occur,

hospital visits take longer than expected, travel accommodations are

different than expected, internet cables are accidentally cut or

turned off by the cable company, very occasionally I am too sick to

check the messages etc. I ask for your patience and kindness.

I would also point out that anyone can create a group here at

Groups. I encourage anyone who would like to do things there own way

to start their own group. I will even offer my assistance in creating

a group for anyone who wants to try regardless of topic.

I wish to hear from other members on whether or not you want all

messages moderated.

Thanks for your time and understanding.

=)

Robynn

-owner

>

> I don't think it is . THe moderator on THIS group goes

through most of it I guess, so it takes a long time, sometimes for

them to get posted. IT makes for a lot of inconsistency on answering

and reading. I feel if SOME of us are being scrutinized and such a

lag time, then ALL should be the same. That way things will be done

in a more timely manner, and much easier for the lyme brains to

comprehend.

>

> jim.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Robynn,

You said:

" I wish to hear from other members on whether or not you want all

messages moderated. "

My 2 cents: I see no need. We don't get a lot of cranks. I wouldn't

want to make any more work for you.

ellen

-

>

[Guest guest]

rasheedaas quoted Robynn:

> " I wish to hear from other members on whether or not you want all

> messages moderated. "

My vote is to absolutely not put this group on full moderation. That's an

extreme thing to do and makes a lot of work for a moderator.

Maybe there's a little glitch or personal itch for someone right now. But,

this group has run exceptionally well for years under Robynn's care.

Regardless of the moderation situation, there *is* a glitch that's

been happening for a few days. As I mentioned in a post the other day, t's

delaying some people' messages from two hours to half a day.

A moderator has the right to put members on temporary or permanent

moderation for any number of reasons. Sometimes these things are intuitive

when she sees a pattern developing with certain members. Other times there's

a blatant problem.

I certainly don't speak for Robynn. However, as aa owner/moderator of a

very active 1100 member group, and a member of several online moderators

forums, I think this group runs very smoothly and that full moderation would

just gum things up.

The little issues that seem to have popped up can be resolved with

individuals involved, and with a great deal of patience with 's

glitches.

All the best,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Robynn

whenever you have switched some to " moderated' it has been for a short time

until things calmed down.

as for regularly, please dont put everyone on " moderated " --the time lags will

only worsen.

This so far is one of the better run sites and Ive never had any issues with

editing or deletions here and the very few times I myself was under " moderation "

during a heated debate-I did not resent it at all--I did email you for

explanation ( smile) but you very graciously and immediately responded!

Finette

[Guest guest]

It is already gummed up with some of us long term " regulars "

Jim.

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bluesky <bluesky@...> wrote:

rasheedaas quoted Robynn:

> " I wish to hear from other members on whether or not you want all

> messages moderated. "

My vote is to absolutely not put this group on full moderation. That's an

extreme thing to do and makes a lot of work for a moderator.

Maybe there's a little glitch or personal itch for someone right now. But,

this group has run exceptionally well for years under Robynn's care.

Regardless of the moderation situation, there *is* a glitch that's

been happening for a few days. As I mentioned in a post the other day, t's

delaying some people' messages from two hours to half a day.

A moderator has the right to put members on temporary or permanent

moderation for any number of reasons. Sometimes these things are intuitive

when she sees a pattern developing with certain members. Other times there's

a blatant problem.

I certainly don't speak for Robynn. However, as aa owner/moderator of a

very active 1100 member group, and a member of several online moderators

forums, I think this group runs very smoothly and that full moderation would

just gum things up.

The little issues that seem to have popped up can be resolved with

individuals involved, and with a great deal of patience with 's

glitches.

All the best,

Deanna

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