FW: Bee Stings and lyme disease

[Guest guest]

This is sobering. Perhaps folks with Lyme should get checked out and see if

they have this deadly allergy BEFORE they get stung!

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From: Dolores Claesson [mailto:]

Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 6:16 AM

dclaesson@...

Subject: Bee Stings and lyme disease

This was sent by a friend....I too have had an allergic reaction to a bee

sting ...and had to take Benadryl....Interesting ? I also have a friend

here in FL who is a beekeeper and she gave me bee venom and royal jelly etc.

for lyme....I also have a good friend in CT who is a bee keeper and she has

had lyme as well....I need to forward this....Regards and Good Morning to

all.....Dolores

Bee allergy test as a supplementary Lyme test?

The idea behind this is based on the NIH study by Claude Garon.

<http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/516165>

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/516165

" .at melittin concentrations as low as 100 ìg/mL, virtually all (Lyme)

spirochete motility ceased within seconds of inhibitor addition. "

The following was experienced by two Lyme patients, one of them me.

Prior to Lyme, neither of us had any reaction to bee stings. Both of us had

been stung many times with out any reaction at all (other than some

temporary localized pain).

After having undiagnosed/untreated Lyme for some time, more than one year, I

was stung by 3 or 4 bees in the back of the neck. My symptoms, from what I

remember, were rapid breathing, rapid heartbeat, body swelling, dizziness,

etc. I had to go to ER.

The other patient was stung in the leg 7 or more times and experienced a

similar reaction and had to go to ER. At the time, he also did not know he

had Lyme disease.

Both of us were given a bee allergy test and were found to be highly

allergic. I recall being pulled out of the test room after only a few

minutes. The nurse commented she had never seen a reaction that showed that

quickly.

Both of us now have an epinephrine auto-injector kit for immediate

treatment. I have been stung only once since. Not wanting to take a chance,

I used the epinephrine injector within a few minutes and had only a mild

reaction.

Patients with undiagnosed Lyme might have a reaction to bee venom that would

show on an allergy test. If so, this might provide an additional screening

test for Lyme.

If Lyme patients are reactive to bee venom, it would be a prudent safeguard

to issue epinephrine kits.

Dr. Klinghardt in Seattle uses bee venom therapy as part of his Lyme

protocol. I don't know what success he has had.

[Guest guest]

Good point - I too had an allergic reaction to a bee sting - did not know I had

Lyme at the time - I was luckily right next to a hospital and had immediate

epinephrine. How do they know who can tolerate bee venom therapy and who can't?

Do they do a very small skin test or something similar? Anyone know? Thx - Robin

Bee Stings and lyme disease

This was sent by a friend....I too have had an allergic reaction to a bee

sting ...and had to take Benadryl....Interesting ? I also have a friend

here in FL who is a beekeeper and she gave me bee venom and royal jelly etc.

for lyme....I also have a good friend in CT who is a bee keeper and she has

had lyme as well....I need to forward this....Regards and Good Morning to

all.....Dolores

Bee allergy test as a supplementary Lyme test?

The idea behind this is based on the NIH study by Claude Garon.

<http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/516165>

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/516165

" .at melittin concentrations as low as 100 ìg/mL, virtually all (Lyme)

spirochete motility ceased within seconds of inhibitor addition. "

The following was experienced by two Lyme patients, one of them me.

Prior to Lyme, neither of us had any reaction to bee stings. Both of us had

been stung many times with out any reaction at all (other than some

temporary localized pain).

After having undiagnosed/untreated Lyme for some time, more than one year, I

was stung by 3 or 4 bees in the back of the neck. My symptoms, from what I

remember, were rapid breathing, rapid heartbeat, body swelling, dizziness,

etc. I had to go to ER.

The other patient was stung in the leg 7 or more times and experienced a

similar reaction and had to go to ER. At the time, he also did not know he

had Lyme disease.

Both of us were given a bee allergy test and were found to be highly

allergic. I recall being pulled out of the test room after only a few

minutes. The nurse commented she had never seen a reaction that showed that

quickly.

Both of us now have an epinephrine auto-injector kit for immediate

treatment. I have been stung only once since. Not wanting to take a chance,

I used the epinephrine injector within a few minutes and had only a mild

reaction.

Patients with undiagnosed Lyme might have a reaction to bee venom that would

show on an allergy test. If so, this might provide an additional screening

test for Lyme.

If Lyme patients are reactive to bee venom, it would be a prudent safeguard

to issue epinephrine kits.

Dr. Klinghardt in Seattle uses bee venom therapy as part of his Lyme

protocol. I don't know what success he has had.

[Guest guest]

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> Good point - I too had an allergic reaction to a bee sting - did not know I

had Lyme at the time - I was luckily right next to a hospital and had immediate

epinephrine. How do they know who can tolerate bee venom therapy and who can't?

Do they do a very small skin test or something similar? Anyone know? Thx - Robin

and how do we know that the bee venom is the real problem?

I had a classic allergical reaction to IV rocephin, 10 days into treatment. The

effect is very scary (strongly swollen and itchy mucosal areas, huge lips etc.)

and nearly the same as anaphylactic shock from a bee sting. I didn't experience

heart failure though (probably just lucky ...). Fortunately this happened in the

hospital and I got an injection within a few minutes; took about a day before I

looked a bit normal again.

I'm not allergic to bee stings, but don't know the current situation (haven't

been stung after getting infected with Bb). I think Lyme just messes up the

whole immune system.