what next after Buhner protocol?

November 9, 2009

Hi,

It sounds like you've been on herbal protocols for a long time but I didn't see

any mention in your post that you have already tried antibiotics. From

everything I've read it seems that most Lyme experts, including Buhner,

recommend use of abx along with herbs if they can be tolerated by the patient.

There are so many different abx combos you could try that even if you experience

problems with some abx, there are others that might work. The yeast issues are a

concern with abx of course which raises another point. I assume you're taking

probiotics? I've tried many over the last couple years and based on LLMD

recommendation and experience I've found a combination of Theralac and

Saccharomycides Boulardii really helps with systemic yeast. In addition to the

Buhner protocol I am currently doing bicillin shots twice a week. I have had no

systemic yeast issues over the last 6 months on this abx (maybe because it isn't

oral) and I did while on other abx - although that was before I started taking

really good probiotics. When I did have yeast I chose not to go on prescription

antifungals because I was already taking so many other things that can stress

the liver. I did get some relief from peu d'arco tea and lots of detoxing.

Also I believe that taking 175 mg a day of Milk Thistle kept my liver in good

shape despite the abx.

What does your MD say about the optic neuritis? Is it a Lyme symptom? I assume

it is because I developed it myself a couple months ago when I had a relapse of

Lyme symptoms. My LLMD ordered a CT scan for this and results were normal so I

haven't done anything to address this symptom other than trying to reduce

inflammation with detoxing and most recently I started taking quercetin. Also,

I don't know if it helps the optic stuff but I take lots of antioxidants. I

added a few additional ones after reading Buhners desciption of QUIN effects on

the brain in Healing Lyme. It just seemed to explain so much of what I had

experienced and I thought the optic nerve swelling may even be caused by that.

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