Guest guest Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Jerrico, There is no moderator on . The posts go straight through , so if someone kicked your post back, it must have been them, though I'm not aware of that having happened before. Pete > > From: " TranQuil-Wiser.com " <hypnosis@...> > Date: 2006/01/21 Sat PM 10:50:21 EST > > Subject: Re: migraine > > Regina I wrote a migraine post and it was rejected so I can't repost it here (they think everything is advertizing but this was straight information), I think I mentioned a CD in there once and this triggered a " your message has not been approved " blah blah.. anyway go to thejerricoeffect forum and you will find the post there, I used to get these migraines and this was what I did for it.. let me know if it helps or if you need help finding my forum.. Jerrico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 As has suggested, the Othmers have used a T3-T4 approach with an alpha inhibit for many years when dealing with migraines. In recent times they have moved to a wideband inhibit with adjustable reward frequency. They believe this is so successful that they have dedicated a website purely for migraines ... www.helpmymigraine.com. pirHEG is also apparently helpful for migraines, although I have no first hand experience. Mark Darling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Mark, I do have firsthand experience with pirHEG and migraines. It worked nicely for my postconcussion migraines last summer. I used a training schedule of "as often as every two days, no more than three trainings a week." I was subthreshold for the pain after four sessions, and kept training for other reasons. Also, I have had a client using nirHEG for ADHD whose migraines cleared coincidental with treatment. There are several viable options, I think. Merrifield> As has suggested, the Othmers have used a T3-T4 approach with an alpha > inhibit for many years when dealing with migraines. In recent times they > have moved to a wideband inhibit with adjustable reward frequency. > > They believe this is so successful that they have dedicated a website purely > for migraines ... www.helpmymigraine.com. > > pirHEG is also apparently helpful for migraines, although I have no first > hand experience. > > Mark Darling > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 As Mark suggested, I think inhibiting Alpha is the key. I also know someone who had great success stopping migraines who used the 2 Channel windowed squash at T3 A1 G T4 A2 with a window of 12-15, (inhibiting 2-12 and 15-38). ~ Re: Re: migraine > As has suggested, the Othmers have used a T3-T4 approach with an > alpha > inhibit for many years when dealing with migraines. In recent times they > have moved to a wideband inhibit with adjustable reward frequency. > > They believe this is so successful that they have dedicated a website > purely > for migraines ... www.helpmymigraine.com. > > pirHEG is also apparently helpful for migraines, although I have no first > hand experience. > > Mark Darling > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 TranQuil-Wiser.com schrieb: >Regina I wrote a migraine post and it was rejected so I can't repost it >here (they think everything is advertizing but this was straight >information), I think I mentioned a CD in there once and this triggered a > " your message has not been approved " blah blah.. anyway go to >thejerricoeffect forum and you will find the post there, I used to get >these migraines and this was what I did for it.. let me know if it helps >or if you need help finding my forum.. > >Jerrico > > > > Hi Jerrico, I would be happy if you can tell me how to find your forum - or if you send it directly to me (regina@...) thanks Regina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Thanks for all your comments. I had tested several protocolls and ended up with Ottmers setting T3/T4 /g but instead of windowed squash I used SMR% up (for him 11-14 Hz) which calmed him down the easiest. I was just very uncertain seeing after 2 1/2 really good weeks 5 days migraine. I wonder whether it makes sense to switch to C3 C4 g after he has obtained quite good control at T3/T4 and is generally low SMR. I dont think the effects in his room can be the starter for the migraine after having a clear improvement inbetween and also he had a student room for two month that he gave up again since he felt very helpless alone when he had migraine. I wonder whats happening during his very deep dreamless sleep and ow I can help him to find a more normal sleep. Can he miss beta? in his sleep rhythm? Regina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Regina: I've had good results with old fashioned teaching the client to warm his/her hands. A sensor for temp on my Procomp2 works well, but you could use a simple inside/thermometer -- the kind with a separate bulb for outside temp. When the patient begins to feel a migraine coming on, just startng to warm the hands will usually ward off a bad migraine. Haven't found anyone who couldn't do it. migraine Dear collegues, I have a 17year old migraine patient who keeps on having migraine in the morning when he wakes up. It can be very havy, including a paralyzed arm. He went through different therapies /clinics /medications but nothing seems to help. I was initially ask to train with him muscle relaxation. We trained temporal high beta down SMR up which helpt releasing neck tension, getting more aware of his breath and body and made him feel realy good - but migraine comes still back once or twice a week. I tried home training with him to have more sessions. That went really well two weeks over christmas holidays but now he is in migraine 5 mornings in a row and I`m not sure wheter the training currently helps him. Does anyone have experience with such a kind of migraine? (- sleeping like a stone, no dreams, waking up with migraine, improving around lunchtime, very tired when we do training, good evenings.) thanks for suggestions Regina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I agree. It can even be done by imagining your hads and feet very hot, blood flowing vigorously in them. Foxx RE: migraine Regina: I've had good results with old fashioned teaching the client to warm his/her hands. A sensor for temp on my Procomp2 works well, but you could use a simple inside/thermometer -- the kind with a separate bulb for outside temp. When the patient begins to feel a migraine coming on, just startng to warm the hands will usually ward off a bad migraine. Haven't found anyone who couldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Thanks , I tried handworming in our training but he has no chance doing it for his migraine since it comes during sleep. Its always already there when he wakes up - and so heavy that he cant do anything. That was also the problem with all medications his doctor tried - he has no chance to feel it coming. Regina schrieb: >Regina: >I've had good results with old fashioned teaching the client to warm his/her >hands. A sensor for temp on my Procomp2 works well, but you could use a >simple inside/thermometer -- the kind with a separate bulb for outside temp. >When the patient begins to feel a migraine coming on, just startng to warm >the hands will usually ward off a bad migraine. Haven't found anyone who >couldn't do it. > > > migraine > > >Dear collegues, >I have a 17year old migraine patient who keeps on having migraine in the >morning when he wakes up. It can be very havy, including a paralyzed >arm. He went through different therapies /clinics /medications but >nothing seems to help. I was initially ask to train with him muscle >relaxation. We trained temporal high beta down SMR up which helpt >releasing neck tension, getting more aware of his breath and body and >made him feel realy good - but migraine comes still back once or twice a >week. I tried home training with him to have more sessions. That went >really well two weeks over christmas holidays but now he is in migraine >5 mornings in a row and I`m not sure wheter the training currently helps >him. >Does anyone have experience with such a kind of migraine? (- sleeping >like a stone, no dreams, waking up with migraine, improving around >lunchtime, very tired when we do training, good evenings.) >thanks for suggestions >Regina > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Hello, I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the migraine? Thank you Sportfreund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 p.s. Also a small bit of coffee when you have early warning signs of migraine will ward it off. TRick is small amt bec too much can make headache worse. My 'own' analysis of why this works is that coffee stimulates your heart to beat faster and your blood circulates a bit faster, which would carry more oxygen to brain...which is why we feel more alert when we drink coffee, the extra oxygen to brain makes us more alert. .so same mechanism: getting extra oxygen. Since Bart is aerobic as been discussed here, if oxygen helps, *MAY mean it is not Bart...just theorizing that. ... From: sportfreund321 <heumie@...> Subject: [ ] Migraine Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 5:11 PM  Hello, I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the migraine? Thank you Sportfreund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Coffee do not function unfortunately with me. If I drink none release it however a migraine, nevertheless thank you. What recommends ago Buhner with migraine? > > .. > From: sportfreund321 <heumie@...> > Subject: [ ] Migraine > > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 5:11 PM > > > Â > > > > Hello, > > I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. > > I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the migraine? > > Thank you > > Sportfreund > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2010 Report Share Posted December 20, 2010 Candida is not my Problenm. I have taken, Fluconazol, Nystatin an a other sytemic Drug against Candida. I think Buhner can help me, but in Germany are all Products very expensively. Thanks Sportfreund > > > From: sportfreund321 <heumie@...> > Subject: [ ] Migraine > > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 5:11 PM > > > Â > > > > Hello, > > I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. > > I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the migraine? > > Thank you > > Sportfreund > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 If candida is an issue, caprylic acid is a good supplement as is Pao D'Arco bark (for tea). NOW makes a product called Candida Clear which has the caprylic acid. Grapefruit seed extract is also good for Candida. Diflucan/Nystatin are very strong Rx meds - gave me massive herx and very dark thoughts. I had to stop those. deb > > > From: sportfreund321 <heumie@...> > Subject: [ ] Migraine > > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 5:11 PM > > > Â > > > > Hello, > > I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. > > I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the migraine? > > Thank you > > Sportfreund > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Interesting link discussing coffee and migraine. http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/headache-caffeine.html deb > > .. > From: sportfreund321 <heumie@...> > Subject: [ ] Migraine > > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 5:11 PM > > > Â > > > > Hello, > > I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. > > I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the migraine? > > Thank you > > Sportfreund > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 My understanding of this is that the caffeine dilates the blood vessels in the brain. Unfortunately, like most bodily receptors, the vessels come to be dependent on the coffee to open, hence quitting coffee (never a good idea to do precipitously) will be painful as they close up and stay closed (something like that). Small amounts do in fact often help migraines, as can feverfew, b/c the vessels dilate again, which does indeed bring more oxygen to the brain..... this happens to non-Lymies as well. [ ] Migraine > > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 5:11 PM > > > Â > > > > Hello, > > I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. > > I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the migraine? > > Thank you > > Sportfreund > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Have you tried melatonin? 3 mg helps me with migraine and hot flashes. ________________________________ From: Pat Palmer <mpatpalm@...> Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 11:24:46 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Migraine My understanding of this is that the caffeine dilates the blood vessels in the brain. Unfortunately, like most bodily receptors, the vessels come to be dependent on the coffee to open, hence quitting coffee (never a good idea to do precipitously) will be painful as they close up and stay closed (something like that). Small amounts do in fact often help migraines, as can feverfew, b/c the vessels dilate again, which does indeed bring more oxygen to the brain..... this happens to non-Lymies as well. [ ] Migraine > > Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 5:11 PM > > > Â > > > > Hello, > > I'am from Europe an my english ist not so good. > > I have big Problemes with migraine. A trigger is To changes in the weather and >also is a Problem for me with low blood pressure I there thinks Bartonellen are >in it responsible.have you any ideas what I could try out sometimes against the >migraine? > > Thank you > > Sportfreund > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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