Re: Question to this group

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb <drkolb@...>

I will no longer be available to help with the

> issues on this forum as your anger and prejudice are more important than

> finding the solution to the adjuvant disease caused by implants which is

> what I have been guided to research so that people such as are on this

forum

> may be helped. Kolb.

Dr. Kolb, I really hope that you will stay with us.

It saddens me to see this happening in our group, especially after my

earlier post about everyone being like minded in our efforts to put aside

internal conflict and focus on healing issues and educating about the

harmful effects of implants. I really don't want to see any more verbal

attacks.

I know some of you are familiar with the Bible--have you not read the part

that says " A house divided against itself cannot stand " ? Let's not let

that happen here. The manufacturer's love that.

I do want to allow everyone the freedom to voice their concerns, but I want

to again admonish everyone to be fair and respectful of those on this forum

who are seeking answers and those who have experienced the harmful effects

of breast implants. Dr. Kolb, we know, has also experienced those harmful

effects and has valid observations to be gleaned and shared. This is not a

pro-implant forum, and I am sure she is well aware of that.

Now, please, let us move forward again....with an attitude of grace. We all

need it.

Patty

[Guest guest]

Dr Kolb,

I did not attack you. I stated the facts. I questioned the

appropriateness of a plastic surgeon with saline implants, who

implants other women with salines, stating on THIS forum that they

are safe.

You stated that you provided the " pro " argument for Glamour. (You

did not say in your original post that the reporter later did not

know why you were so designated. Perhaps because you implant women

with them, and because you have them?)

I did not misinterpret what you said. Copy/pasted from your note: " I

have saline implants and have been doing implant surgery for over 18

years so I am well aware of the risks. Many women would not be

explanted if we did not put in saline implants and I believe that in

most cases the risk of smooth saline is much less than the risk of

silicone. "

For the record, will you kindly state what your stance is regarding

the safety of saline-filled silicone implants? You do appear to be

supporting their use. Your website discusses the hazards of silicone

gel implants, but I could find nothing on the hazards of saline-

filled silicone implants.

I don't know your reasons for getting implants, nor is it any of my

business. It would be your choice if you decide to share that with

us.

I am not angry, bitter, nor prejudiced. I have too much work to do

in getting well and helping other women to have time for that.

Research, my website, the FDA hearings, and media interviews are

exhausting for someone as debilitated as I am. Not to mention going

to the 6 specialists who are trying to help me get well.

I stated the facts. You are a plastic surgeon. You are not an

explantee, as has been stated on websites on which you are linked.

You have saline implants. You implant women with saline implants.

You stated that they are safer than gel implants. I feel you should

not be influencing women to that end on a SALINE support forum.

I don't know how to make my language any plainer. I am quite sure

you know what I am talking about. If my comments are the first you

have had to deal with in the 3 years you have been involved in this

issue, perhaps it is because you have never stated publicly that you

have saline implants and that you feel they are safe. Quite a few

people were shocked to hear that.

As a support group leader and as a woman who has been actively

involved in this issue for 6 years, I have had to deal with MANY

women who did not agree with me. In my case, it was usually because

they felt I was mistaken in believing that (any) breast implants were

hazardous. And I have not hesitated to question others, including

doctors. Louise Brinton, for example. She replied, without

animosity.

You, as a plastic surgeon who still implants women, should expect to

be questioned, if only for that reason. But you should especially

expect to be questioned when you tell sick saline implant survivors

that the device which made them so sick is safer than silicone gels!

Lastly, if you believe that an adjuvant disease exists, do you feel

that it only affects those with silicone gel implants? If not, then

why do you have saline replacements, and why would you deliberately

give that message to women on this forum?

One more thing.. what " role " were you given in this issue and by

whom? Copy/pasted from your below note: " She may be able to explain

to you why I have been given the role in this issue. "

Eileen

> > > > > Dear Martha: I have saline implants and have been doing

implant

> > > > surgery for

> > > > > over 18 years so I am well aware of the risks. Many women

would

> > > > not be

> > > > > explanted if we did not put in saline implants and I believe

> > that

> > > > in most

> > > > > cases the risk of smooth saline is much less than the risk

of

> > > > silicone. I

> > > > > believe I give a complete informed consent about the

dangers.

> > > > Remember that

> > > > > every so often a patient dies from surgery as simple as a

tooth

> > > > extraction,

> > > > > so there is risk associated with all surgeries especially

the

> > > > placement of

> > > > > foreign bodies. Our job should be to study this problem and

> > > > minimize the

> > > > > risks. We do need something to use for breast augmentation

and

> > > > > reconstruction. We need to identify the patients at risk

prior

> > to

> > > > surgery

> > > > > just as we can identify some patients with penicillin

allergy

> > > > before they

> > > > > die of anaphylactic shock. I have a low complication risk

> > because I

> > > > try to

> > > > > identify patients with depressed immune systems and pretreat

> > them

> > > > prior to

> > > > > explant. I also educate women re the need to promptly treat

> > > > infections

> > > > > before they land on the implants. I have no cases of toxic

> > shock or

> > > > > anaphylaxsis. My worst complication in 18 years was when

the

> > > > instruments

> > > > > were not sterilized in the military and my OR nurse had to

have

> > her

> > > > implants

> > > > > removed due to a mild infection. I encourage women to get

> > silicone

> > > > > sensitivity tests prior to being reimplanted if they have

> > evidence

> > > > of

> > > > > autoimmune disease. My job is to provide informed consent

but

> > the

> > > > ultimate

> > > > > choice is the women's. I do encourage women not to be

> > reimplanted

> > > > > immediately if they have autoimmune disease or severe

> > neurological

> > > > disease.

> > > > > Kolb M.D.

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: MARTHA <MAM-NSIF@P...>

> > > > > < egroups>

> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 12:36 AM

> > > > > Subject: Re: Question to this group

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Dr. Kolb,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Knowing what we now know about saline implants (from the

FDA

> > > > Hearings the

> > > > > > first of March, 2000), how can you, or any PS, even

suggest a

> > > > possibility

> > > > > of

> > > > > > re-implantation with saline implants? I strongly

recommend

> > you

> > > > and highly

> > > > > > respect your opinions regarding breast implants.

However, if

> > a

> > > > woman,

> > > > > such

> > > > > > as me and others, has developed such a hypersensitivity to

> > > > silicone

> > > > > (smooth

> > > > > > or textured shell), how could you consider possibly

> > subjecting a

> > > > woman to

> > > > > > anaphylactic shock, toxic shock syndrome, or worse? These

> > > > situations have

> > > > > > indeed happened, and I wonder how do PS's deal with

this? It

> > > > cannot be

> > > > > > pleasant!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Most sincerely,

> > > > > > Martha Murdock, Director

> > > > > > National Silicone/Saline Implant Foundation

> > > > > > Dallas TX Headquarters

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > > From: Dr. Kolb <drkolb@m...>

> > > > > > egroups < egroups>

> > > > > > Date: Sunday, August 06, 2000 8:39 PM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Question to this group

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >Dear Patty: In theory, the amount of silicone released

into

> > the

> > > > body is

> > > > > > >probably less with smooth implants than with textured

> > implants

> > > > but the

> > > > > > study

> > > > > > >of quantifing the amount of silicone is capsules needs

to be

> > > > done. With

> > > > > > >silcone gel versus saline the ratio is 1000 to one when

> > > > researchers

> > > > > looked

> > > > > > >at the silcone in the capsules. There may be other

factors

> > > > however such

> > > > > as

> > > > > > >total body toxic load and HLA type that enter into the

> > > > equation. If a

> > > > > > women

> > > > > > >had textured implants and was sick, I would recommend a

> > silcone

> > > > > sensitivity

> > > > > > >test and if positive would recommend explant. If the

> > silicone

> > > > senisvity

> > > > > > >test was negative I would try the detoxification first

then

> > if no

> > > > > > >improvement, then explant with later reimplant of smooth

> > saline

> > > > is she

> > > > > was

> > > > > > >intent on having implants. Kolb.

> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----

> > > > > > >From: Patty <faussettdp@m...>

> > > > > > >< egroups>

> > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:14 PM

> > > > > > >Subject: Re: Question to this group

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> > Dr. Kolb,

> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > >> > I think there was one question that didn't get

answered,

> > and

> > > > that was

> > > > > > >> about

> > > > > > >> > the smooth shelled saline implants vs. the textured.

> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > >> > Would a person who has smooth shelled implants be

better

> > off

> > > > > replacing

> > > > > > >> them

> > > > > > >> > with textured if they are symptomatic?

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> Sorry, I messed that one up--I meant if someone had

> > textured

> > > > implants

> > > > > > >would

> > > > > > >> they be better off with smooth shelled, if they are now

> > > > symptomatic?

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> thanks!

> > > > > > >> Patty

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Too bad that Dr.Kolb is not going to be here anymore, seeing as how she

is a DR.and none of us are we will be loosing a great source of

information by loosing her. Despite your feeling Eileen(and I understand

them) you have to realize that there are women out there who have had

there implants so long, they just can't(for whatever reasons) part with

them. Dr.Kolb is helping these women by giving them a statistically

safer type of implant. It may not be totally 100% safe but it is an

option for women who otherwise might go on suffering with silicone in

them regardless of there health, and never get explanted. There are

women who feel this strongly about the implants they have. It is sad but

true. I still have mine, because I am so afraid of how depressed I might

get without them I fear sinking into a black hole, and even becoming

suicidal. Maybe I am vain, maybe I am stupid, or foolish to think I can

get better with them inside me, or that in time I will adapt, or maybe

over time, with support I will make that hard decision to get them out.

But no matter what I will miss Dr.Kolb(even though I too have argued

with her on some points) there just aren't many Dr's who are even

willing to discuss these issues at all with us. I mean really so what if

she has implants? I mean it is her health, her body, she can make her

own decisions, and she was explanted so she is not lying about that

right. I just wish everyone would stop attacking her. But likely it is

too late and she is gone. I so hope this doesn't become another SBI type

group full of people fighting.

I will shut up now.

Eileen wrote:

>

> Dr Kolb,

>

> I did not attack you. I stated the facts. I questioned the

> appropriateness of a plastic surgeon with saline implants, who

> implants other women with salines, stating on THIS forum that they

> are safe.

>

> You stated that you provided the " pro " argument for Glamour. (You

> did not say in your original post that the reporter later did not

> know why you were so designated. Perhaps because you implant women

> with them, and because you have them?)

>

> I did not misinterpret what you said. Copy/pasted from your note: " I

> have saline implants and have been doing implant surgery for over 18

> years so I am well aware of the risks. Many women would not be

> explanted if we did not put in saline implants and I believe that in

> most cases the risk of smooth saline is much less than the risk of

> silicone. "

>

> For the record, will you kindly state what your stance is regarding

> the safety of saline-filled silicone implants? You do appear to be

> supporting their use. Your website discusses the hazards of silicone

> gel implants, but I could find nothing on the hazards of saline-

> filled silicone implants.

>

> I don't know your reasons for getting implants, nor is it any of my

> business. It would be your choice if you decide to share that with

> us.

>

> I am not angry, bitter, nor prejudiced. I have too much work to do

> in getting well and helping other women to have time for that.

> Research, my website, the FDA hearings, and media interviews are

> exhausting for someone as debilitated as I am. Not to mention going

> to the 6 specialists who are trying to help me get well.

>

> I stated the facts. You are a plastic surgeon. You are not an

> explantee, as has been stated on websites on which you are linked.

> You have saline implants. You implant women with saline implants.

> You stated that they are safer than gel implants. I feel you should

> not be influencing women to that end on a SALINE support forum.

>

> I don't know how to make my language any plainer. I am quite sure

> you know what I am talking about. If my comments are the first you

> have had to deal with in the 3 years you have been involved in this

> issue, perhaps it is because you have never stated publicly that you

> have saline implants and that you feel they are safe. Quite a few

> people were shocked to hear that.

>

> As a support group leader and as a woman who has been actively

> involved in this issue for 6 years, I have had to deal with MANY

> women who did not agree with me. In my case, it was usually because

> they felt I was mistaken in believing that (any) breast implants were

> hazardous. And I have not hesitated to question others, including

> doctors. Louise Brinton, for example. She replied, without

> animosity.

>

> You, as a plastic surgeon who still implants women, should expect to

> be questioned, if only for that reason. But you should especially

> expect to be questioned when you tell sick saline implant survivors

> that the device which made them so sick is safer than silicone gels!

>

> Lastly, if you believe that an adjuvant disease exists, do you feel

> that it only affects those with silicone gel implants? If not, then

> why do you have saline replacements, and why would you deliberately

> give that message to women on this forum?

>

> One more thing.. what " role " were you given in this issue and by

> whom? Copy/pasted from your below note: " She may be able to explain

> to you why I have been given the role in this issue. "

>

> Eileen

>

>

> > > > > > Dear Martha: I have saline implants and have been doing

> implant

> > > > > surgery for

> > > > > > over 18 years so I am well aware of the risks. Many women

> would

> > > > > not be

> > > > > > explanted if we did not put in saline implants and I believe

> > > that

> > > > > in most

> > > > > > cases the risk of smooth saline is much less than the risk

> of

> > > > > silicone. I

> > > > > > believe I give a complete informed consent about the

> dangers.

> > > > > Remember that

> > > > > > every so often a patient dies from surgery as simple as a

> tooth

> > > > > extraction,

> > > > > > so there is risk associated with all surgeries especially

> the

> > > > > placement of

> > > > > > foreign bodies. Our job should be to study this problem and

> > > > > minimize the

> > > > > > risks. We do need something to use for breast augmentation

> and

> > > > > > reconstruction. We need to identify the patients at risk

> prior

> > > to

> > > > > surgery

> > > > > > just as we can identify some patients with penicillin

> allergy

> > > > > before they

> > > > > > die of anaphylactic shock. I have a low complication risk

> > > because I

> > > > > try to

> > > > > > identify patients with depressed immune systems and pretreat

> > > them

> > > > > prior to

> > > > > > explant. I also educate women re the need to promptly treat

> > > > > infections

> > > > > > before they land on the implants. I have no cases of toxic

> > > shock or

> > > > > > anaphylaxsis. My worst complication in 18 years was when

> the

> > > > > instruments

> > > > > > were not sterilized in the military and my OR nurse had to

> have

> > > her

> > > > > implants

> > > > > > removed due to a mild infection. I encourage women to get

> > > silicone

> > > > > > sensitivity tests prior to being reimplanted if they have

> > > evidence

> > > > > of

> > > > > > autoimmune disease. My job is to provide informed consent

> but

> > > the

> > > > > ultimate

> > > > > > choice is the women's. I do encourage women not to be

> > > reimplanted

> > > > > > immediately if they have autoimmune disease or severe

> > > neurological

> > > > > disease.

> > > > > > Kolb M.D.

> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > > From: MARTHA <MAM-NSIF@P...>

> > > > > > < egroups>

> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 12:36 AM

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Question to this group

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Dr. Kolb,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Knowing what we now know about saline implants (from the

> FDA

> > > > > Hearings the

> > > > > > > first of March, 2000), how can you, or any PS, even

> suggest a

> > > > > possibility

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > re-implantation with saline implants? I strongly

> recommend

> > > you

> > > > > and highly

> > > > > > > respect your opinions regarding breast implants.

> However, if

> > > a

> > > > > woman,

> > > > > > such

> > > > > > > as me and others, has developed such a hypersensitivity to

> > > > > silicone

> > > > > > (smooth

> > > > > > > or textured shell), how could you consider possibly

> > > subjecting a

> > > > > woman to

> > > > > > > anaphylactic shock, toxic shock syndrome, or worse? These

> > > > > situations have

> > > > > > > indeed happened, and I wonder how do PS's deal with

> this? It

> > > > > cannot be

> > > > > > > pleasant!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Most sincerely,

> > > > > > > Martha Murdock, Director

> > > > > > > National Silicone/Saline Implant Foundation

> > > > > > > Dallas TX Headquarters

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > > > From: Dr. Kolb <drkolb@m...>

> > > > > > > egroups < egroups>

> > > > > > > Date: Sunday, August 06, 2000 8:39 PM

> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Question to this group

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Dear Patty: In theory, the amount of silicone released

> into

> > > the

> > > > > body is

> > > > > > > >probably less with smooth implants than with textured

> > > implants

> > > > > but the

> > > > > > > study

> > > > > > > >of quantifing the amount of silicone is capsules needs

> to be

> > > > > done. With

> > > > > > > >silcone gel versus saline the ratio is 1000 to one when

> > > > > researchers

> > > > > > looked

> > > > > > > >at the silcone in the capsules. There may be other

> factors

> > > > > however such

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > >total body toxic load and HLA type that enter into the

> > > > > equation. If a

> > > > > > > women

> > > > > > > >had textured implants and was sick, I would recommend a

> > > silcone

> > > > > > sensitivity

> > > > > > > >test and if positive would recommend explant. If the

> > > silicone

> > > > > senisvity

> > > > > > > >test was negative I would try the detoxification first

> then

> > > if no

> > > > > > > >improvement, then explant with later reimplant of smooth

> > > saline

> > > > > is she

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > >intent on having implants. Kolb.

> > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----

> > > > > > > >From: Patty <faussettdp@m...>

> > > > > > > >< egroups>

> > > > > > > >Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:14 PM

> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Question to this group

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> > Dr. Kolb,

> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > >> > I think there was one question that didn't get

> answered,

> > > and

> > > > > that was

> > > > > > > >> about

> > > > > > > >> > the smooth shelled saline implants vs. the textured.

> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > >> > Would a person who has smooth shelled implants be

> better

> > > off

> > > > > > replacing

> > > > > > > >> them

> > > > > > > >> > with textured if they are symptomatic?

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> Sorry, I messed that one up--I meant if someone had

> > > textured

> > > > > implants

> > > > > > > >would

> > > > > > > >> they be better off with smooth shelled, if they are now

> > > > > symptomatic?

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> thanks!

> > > > > > > >> Patty

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Im new to this group also. But I have been online for 3 years

now, and this really seems to be a wonderful site with lots of

Infomation for the Silicone Sisters. I wish we could all get

together in a chat room sometime. Anyways... I hope I can help you

out with one question you might have. I was implanted in 1974 and

diagnosed with M.S. in 1994. I had all the signs of Silicone

Poisioning before the M.S. but choose to ignore it, because I only

wore one implant due to not developing on one side. But as soon as

I learned about the M.S. The Media Started up with the

complications of what Silicone can do to you. No More denial for

me, That implant went out of my body as quick as it went it. And

now Im back to Looking like 16 again! (I wish) Loopsided. Its been

6 years since I have been diagnosed, and 1 1/2 years ago I couldn't

get around without a cane. Today I am cane free, but sometimes

take it for really long walks, because I still tire really easy.

But The neurologist cant believe how well I have become, because 2

of them Diagnosed me with Progressive M.S. Im not feeling 100% but

I think I have improved a good 65% maybe 70% I still cant run.

But who knows maybe next year. I just know Im so greatful to God,

and to my Silicone Sisters who have helped me get this far. I have

used everything also to get well. Even Bee Stings (26 of them) So

I have No idea what could have made me better, But I will tell you

this much... Just knowing that Implant (JUNK) is out of my Body,

gives

me so much piece of mind. Not that it's all gone, but at least the

majority is Out! Good Luck to you .. and I hope you dont

decide to leave this group. Seems it's just getting started..

God Bless

Debe

> I am getting so tired of these posts that are scientific stuff I

can't

> understand, old studies, and repeat stuff from the SBI newsgroups.

When

> I joined this group I really was hoping to hear more things from

women

> who had saline implants and were sick, or had them out and what they

> were doing to get better. Apparently there aren't really any are

there?

> I am sad and disappointed by this fact. I have asked DR.Kolb several

> times a few questions but she doesn't answer them......I guess she

> doesn't know or have the answers either. I would really like to hear

> more from women who are getting better without implants, it seems

like

> maybe some of us are going to be ill forever with or without our

> implants. This is something I am working at accepting.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Kolb,

In reading up on previous posts I very important question is raised.

regarding arsenic levels.

Prior meeting you I was so very sick seeing MDs etc. searching for

answers to explain why I was feeling " poisened " and deathly ill.

I was highly suspicious about arsenic and lead poisening. Each time I

requested a test, I was denied. One doctor got so upset he told me I

would have to be referred to a health department or possibly a crime

lab to have this test done!

What are your comments and current theories on arsenic and how our

bodies work to be rid of this. My interest applies to patients having

been surgically explanted (silicone)and/or saline implant recipients.

Also, bless you for the gentle reminder in closing the attached email.

Warm regards, love, and hugs, Rhonda Ray

,

" Dr. Kolb " <drkolb@m...> wrote:

> I find the scientific studies very important. We are trying to

understand

> an emerging illness and I think Patty has done an excellent job of

educating

> people. I have answered all questions that I have read on this

post.

> Perhaps you missed the answers. Patty, I also have high levels of

arsenic.

> It would be interesting to see profiles on a large group of women.

I have

> discussed the platinum problem with the doctor who wrote a paper on

it in

> the Jan. 99 issue of Israel J. of Occupational medicine ( or

Health). He

> said his medical license was threatened. No wonder Senator Barbara

Boxer

> told me at her press conference when the silicone bill was

introduced that I

> was very brave for appearing on national TV. Glamour magazine

interviewed

> me for over on hour this week. It will be interesting to see what

they have

> to say about saline implants. They said they had me as the pro on

the pro

> vs con side bar. I'm not sure why. It is very easy to become

negative and

> depressed when you are chronically ill but I can assure you that

these

> negative emotions can be just as toxic as your body's reaction to

your

> breast implants and if you do not monitor this portion of your

psyche, you

> can become very seriously ill. A large part of recovery is taking

> responsibility for your decisions and incorporating forgiveness

into you

> daily life We are all learning and growing so it is wise to be

gentle with

> your judgments. Kolb M.D..

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rhonda,

You can write to Dr. Kolb at her email address:

drkolb@...

....I am sure she will respond to you, as she is very good about that.

Pattysurvivoretal <survivoretal@...> wrote:

Dear Dr. Kolb, In reading up on previous posts I very important question is raised. regarding arsenic levels.Prior meeting you I was so very sick seeing MDs etc. searching for answers to explain why I was feeling "poisened" and deathly ill.I was highly suspicious about arsenic and lead poisening. Each time I requested a test, I was denied. One doctor got so upset he told me I would have to be referred to a health department or possibly a crime lab to have this test done!What are your comments and current theories on arsenic and how our bodies work to be rid of this. My interest applies to patients having been surgically explanted (silicone)and/or saline implant recipients.Also, bless you for the gentle reminder in closing the attached email.Warm regards, love, and hugs, Rhonda

Ray ,"Dr. Kolb" <drkolb@m...> wrote:> I find the scientific studies very important. We are trying to understand> an emerging illness and I think Patty has done an excellent job of educating> people. I have answered all questions that I have read on this post.> Perhaps you missed the answers. Patty, I also have high levels of arsenic.> It would be interesting to see profiles on a large group of women. I have> discussed the platinum problem with the doctor who wrote a paper on it in> the Jan. 99 issue of Israel J. of Occupational medicine ( or Health). He> said his medical license was threatened. No wonder Senator Barbara Boxer> told me at her press conference when the silicone bill was introduced that I> was very brave for appearing on national TV. Glamour magazine

interviewed> me for over on hour this week. It will be interesting to see what they have> to say about saline implants. They said they had me as the pro on the pro> vs con side bar. I'm not sure why. It is very easy to become negative and> depressed when you are chronically ill but I can assure you that these> negative emotions can be just as toxic as your body's reaction to your> breast implants and if you do not monitor this portion of your psyche, you> can become very seriously ill. A large part of recovery is taking> responsibility for your decisions and incorporating forgiveness into you> daily life We are all learning and growing so it is wise to be gentle with> your judgments. Kolb M.D..>

[Guest guest]

thanks Patty, will do. ps- If anyone is interested in the response I

have no problem with sharing- just ask! Rhonda

> > I find the scientific studies very important. We are trying to

> understand

> > an emerging illness and I think Patty has done an excellent job

of

> educating

> > people. I have answered all questions that I have read on this

> post.

> > Perhaps you missed the answers. Patty, I also have high levels

of

> arsenic.

> > It would be interesting to see profiles on a large group of

women.

> I have

> > discussed the platinum problem with the doctor who wrote a paper

on

> it in

> > the Jan. 99 issue of Israel J. of Occupational medicine ( or

> Health). He

> > said his medical license was threatened. No wonder Senator

Barbara

> Boxer

> > told me at her press conference when the silicone bill was

> introduced that I

> > was very brave for appearing on national TV. Glamour magazine

> interviewed

> > me for over on hour this week. It will be interesting to see

what

> they have

> > to say about saline implants. They said they had me as the pro

on

> the pro

> > vs con side bar. I'm not sure why. It is very easy to become

> negative and

> > depressed when you are chronically ill but I can assure you that

> these

> > negative emotions can be just as toxic as your body's reaction to

> your

> > breast implants and if you do not monitor this portion of your

> psyche, you

> > can become very seriously ill. A large part of recovery is taking

> > responsibility for your decisions and incorporating forgiveness

> into you

> > daily life We are all learning and growing so it is wise to be

> gentle with

> > your judgments. Kolb M.D..

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>