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Dr. Z's artemesia taken in high doses, empty if stomache tolerates,

made a big difference in my symptoms. I still have it, I believe, but

at least the sweats, chills, air hunger isn't as bad. I use to feel I

was suffocating at night.

I just took for 3 days before tummy said " no more " , but now I hear

from some sources that it's best to take for 3 days at high dose and

then repeat.

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> I got my IGeneX test results back today. Now I test positive for

> Babesia. I'll be reviewing Buhner's recommendations of course, but

any

> suggestions or comments are welcome. I have not focused my attention

on

> the co-infections, figuring I'd 'cross that bridge when I got to it.'

> Well, I'm now at that bridge! lol!

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> I no longer test positive for lyme (after 9 months of treatment)

though

> I know a negative is not definitive. It's still nice to have after

> testing positive a year ago. jo

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NO! IT does NOT mean you will get rid of it. As a matter of fact, Buhner is

not recommending the Artemisinin any more. Listen to his latest CD that is out.

Also go to Planet Thrive and read about it there.

I found that Artemisia annua did more than the Artemisinin did for me, also.

Jim.

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wyomin@... wrote:

I'm interested in hearing what treatments people ahve used for

babesia.

I reviewed Buhner. He recommends artimisin for 30 to 40 days. Does that

mean one can rid oneself of it within that length of time? jo

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He actually had a better way of recommending it when he DID recommend it, and

that was the 1200 to 1500 mgs a day for 3 days, I believe. Then two weeks off,

then hit it again for three days. IF that doesn't get it, the Artemisinin won't

do it, he says.

Jim.

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rasheedaas <rasheedaas@...> wrote:

Hi Selma,

yes, I may still have Babesia, as my temperature fluctuates during the

day, not so much as to be unbearable, but enough to notice. But then

that may just be me.

I took the dose of Art that Buhner recommends, 100 mg, 3X day, for 40

days.

ellen

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Jo, the info is scattered here in this forum, I'm trying to re-copy

everything from my notebook and from what I wrote here (as I treated it

for more than 3 months, so pretty lots of things...)

I'll post about it again soon,

Selma

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> Selma, Did I understand you correctly that you put two protocols

> together to treat Babesia? If so, could you share what they were?

> Thanks,jo

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Ellen, do you have any sort of high temperature/ hot flushes ? The

actual temperature does not have to be high, but has to be higher than

what you normally have.

Most of us with borrelia have lower body temperature, and when I was

getting hot flashes, I think I didn't have a 'fever', but it was more

like my temperature getting 'normal' (if I measured it), but it

felt 'hot'. These were my 'hot flashes' with babesia.

Borrelia can cause low body temperature too. I just feel bart and

babesia can make the temperature go higher than what is 'normal' for us

and fluctuates more than with borrelia (in my feeling).

You have also to check for bartonella. A VERY common co-infection, more

common than babesia, and with many similar symptoms.

Now I remember you told before that you had treated a month your

babesia. Sorry, memory lapse! I was surprised back then, as you were

the first person that I heard B's babesia protocol working! Sorry for

my forgetfulness!

Selma

> Hi Selma,

> yes, I may still have Babesia, as my temperature fluctuates during the

> day, not so much as to be unbearable, but enough to notice. But then

> that may just be me.

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> I took the dose of Art that Buhner recommends, 100 mg, 3X day, for 40

> days.

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> ellen

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Jim, did he really said that high dose for artemisinin? That's

exactly the protocol Dr. K uses (I think that's how most Chinese try

to get malaria with artemisinin).

I did that too, two times in my first AND second babesial infection.

Artemisinin hit lots of bugs, but it didn't kill the cystic forms, I

suppose. I relapsed after.

Can you confirm if Buhner is now recommending the high dose REALLY?

He was very careful in recommending some high doses in the past, if

my memory is good.

Thanks,

Selma

> He actually had a better way of recommending it when he DID

recommend it, and that was the 1200 to 1500 mgs a day for 3 days, I

believe. Then two weeks off, then hit it again for three days. IF

that doesn't get it, the Artemisinin won't do it, he says.

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> Jim.

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Hi, Selma.

My temp fluatations are occasional and not very bothersome.

Like today, I don't have any.

My thinking is that they have to do with how much coffee I drink, also

some emotional matters. I *never* have temp fluctuations except in my

apartment. Never anywhere else.

best,

ellen

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> Ellen, do you have any sort of high temperature/ hot flushes ? The

> actual temperature does not have to be high, but has to be higher than

> what you normally have.

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> Most of us with borrelia have lower body temperature, and when I was

> getting hot flashes, I think I didn't have a 'fever', but it was more

> like my temperature getting 'normal' (if I measured it), but it

> felt 'hot'. These were my 'hot flashes' with babesia.

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Funny Ellen! Maybe you should stop drinking coffee? So you get cold

with coffee, if I understood well?

So you possibly really got rid of babesia with the combo artemisinin +

red root!!! Are you on red root still?

Selma

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> Hi, Selma.

> My temp fluatations are occasional and not very bothersome.

> Like today, I don't have any.

> My thinking is that they have to do with how much coffee I drink, also

> some emotional matters. I *never* have temp fluctuations except in my

> apartment. Never anywhere else.

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> best,

> ellen

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Sorry, Ellen, bad memory!!! I keep confounding both!

Selma

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> Hi Selma,

> Just want to set the record straight (smile).

> I took artemisin plus boneset tea for babesia, not red root.

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> best,

> ellen

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Someone 2-3 months ago alluded to Buhner now favoring a different herb

for babesia instead of artemisinin. While I noted it at the time, I have

misplaced it. It was apparently a change in what he thought was the best primary

herb for it. Does anyone know what the newer choice was? Doug in Durham

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My LLMD had me buy Crypto Plus, and it tasted so awful that I just couldn't

stand taking it. Is the cryptolepsis helping you?

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I am taking cryptolepsis, A-BAB and artemisinin for babesia. It has taken me

since early spring to get up to full dose of crypto and A-BAB. Now adding art is

knocking me on my butt though I have taken it on its own before and actually

felt better on it.

I dont' know what Enula is or what it is for. Am curious???? jo

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