Re: Dangers of chlorella if hypothyroid

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I am terribly sorry this has happened, sorry you are so ill. My heart

goes out to you.

As you say, you *know* the dangers of chlorella for mercury toxic

people, never mind the other issues. Why in the world did you take

it? Did you believe yourself to be mercury-free?

I wish you the best in getting through this. {{Hugs}}

D.

" doggy532001 " <doggy532001@...> wrote:

>

> I wanted to let others know of the dreadful crash I have had because

> of chlorella. I had read many warnings about it in mercury toxic

> people especially from Andy Cutler.

>

> I think I have found out why it can cause massive problems which will

> lead to a major crash from the adrenals. Chlorella contains both

> selenium and iodine. These will increase thryoid activity but if one

> has high thyroid antibodies as I have increasing iodine can be a very

> bad thing. It causes severe hyperstimulation and toxicity meaning

> one has to stop Armour which leads to a very low oxygen state in the

> blood and severe fatigue. One would think that this natural way was

> beneficial but it isn't it causes major toxicity, severe insomnia,

> anxiety, racing pulse etc.

>

> After takingt organic chlorella for only about a week the first

> symptoms of overstimulation started but I didn't make the

> connection. It took about 4 weeks before I came down with a severe

> throat infection which I couldn't get over and then I completely

> crashed.

>

> It has put me back to how I used to feel. My adrenals have almost

> completely crashed even though I take 5mg Prednisolone every day.

> Only the past few days I have been able to go back to 1 1/2 grains

> Armour having stopped it for a week but during this time have hardly

> been able to get off the couch. So I have gone from feeling

> absolutely great for 2 months on the Buhner herbs, steroid, Armour

> etc to a crash situation because of chlorella.

>

> Looking back I remember taking a Green Food a couple of years ago and

> it had exactly the same effect. When I researched it of course it

> also contained iodine in excess to what is in my daily supplements.

> I remember then Shomon who runs a Thyroid Website mentioned that

> she too could not tolerate extra iodine, it made her completely toxic

> too.

>

> I know I would have felt worse than most on it because I am still

> full of nickel and probably still too much mercury around so it is

> likely I have redistribution of metals. So in order to start

> improving I am going to have to do DMSA in rounds to get rid of these

> heavy metals, rest and gradually rebuild my adrenals and thyroid.

>

> I wouldn't want others to go through what I have just been through,

> its a real nightmare.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

It is really hard to be making steady improvement and then do

something briefly that causes a terrible " crash. " This happened to me

last January with four days of salt/c, which so impaired my kidneys

that I ended up salt intolerant, totally debilitated in a new way for

many months, and had to go off all my IV therapies for months. Even

now I haven't added back in the vitamin/minerals, only glutathione and

IVIG, so I have fibro symptoms and wheezing, which magnesium used to

stop. In fact, the wheezing had begun to improve, when last night I

cleaned out a closet where the building had done construction to

install new power lines, and I'd forgotten there was still brick dust

on the floor. It got stirred up and I'm wheezing again.

I empathize. You will recover, but one never knows when something

seemingly safe is going to come out of the blue like that. After my

experience with those 4 days, I realized that " the sprinkle " approach

is very wise. No matter what anybody else says about any supplement,

each body is unique.

Just don't blame yourself. And let the body take its time to regain

balance. I blamed myself for not being smarter about salt/c but

really, the list about it had been whitewashed of negatives, and the

person urging me to do it was misinterpreting his adverse effects as a

herxheimer, so he didn't even mention the negative effects.

Meanwhile, I just ordered artemisia annua (whole herb) as that is the

first herb I'm going to try as a tea, from Buhner's protocol. I'm

going to be very careful.

>

> I wanted to let others know of the dreadful crash I have had because

> of chlorella. I had read many warnings about it in mercury toxic

> people especially from Andy Cutler.

>

> I think I have found out why it can cause massive problems which will

> lead to a major crash from the adrenals. Chlorella contains both

> selenium and iodine. These will increase thryoid activity but if one

> has high thyroid antibodies as I have increasing iodine can be a very

> bad thing. It causes severe hyperstimulation and toxicity meaning

> one has to stop Armour which leads to a very low oxygen state in the

> blood and severe fatigue. One would think that this natural way was

> beneficial but it isn't it causes major toxicity, severe insomnia,

> anxiety, racing pulse etc.

>

> After takingt organic chlorella for only about a week the first

> symptoms of overstimulation started but I didn't make the

> connection. It took about 4 weeks before I came down with a severe

> throat infection which I couldn't get over and then I completely

> crashed.

>

> It has put me back to how I used to feel. My adrenals have almost

> completely crashed even though I take 5mg Prednisolone every day.

> Only the past few days I have been able to go back to 1 1/2 grains

> Armour having stopped it for a week but during this time have hardly

> been able to get off the couch. So I have gone from feeling

> absolutely great for 2 months on the Buhner herbs, steroid, Armour

> etc to a crash situation because of chlorella.

>

> Looking back I remember taking a Green Food a couple of years ago and

> it had exactly the same effect. When I researched it of course it

> also contained iodine in excess to what is in my daily supplements.

> I remember then Shomon who runs a Thyroid Website mentioned that

> she too could not tolerate extra iodine, it made her completely toxic

> too.

>

> I know I would have felt worse than most on it because I am still

> full of nickel and probably still too much mercury around so it is

> likely I have redistribution of metals. So in order to start

> improving I am going to have to do DMSA in rounds to get rid of these

> heavy metals, rest and gradually rebuild my adrenals and thyroid.

>

> I wouldn't want others to go through what I have just been through,

> its a real nightmare.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Pam,

>

> I am terribly sorry this has happened, sorry you are so ill. My heart

> goes out to you.

>

> As you say, you *know* the dangers of chlorella for mercury toxic

> people, never mind the other issues. Why in the world did you take

> it? Did you believe yourself to be mercury-free?

>

> I wish you the best in getting through this. {{Hugs}}

>

> D.

>

>

Hi

My mercury level was down to practically normal but I had very high

nickel in my rbc and it was blocking my energy so I thought the

chlorella might help with this. Also I had printed out Klinghardt

protocol in which he heavily promoted organic chlorella together with

all the other herbs. My amalgams were safely removed over 5 years ago

btw.

Its obviously only a minority of people that are affected this way cos

others do well but they obviously don't have autoimmune thyroid disease

like I do.

I did lots of chelation with ALA but it didn't touch the nickel but I

understand DMS will take it out. I have also been using a FIR sauna

which helped to get the mercury down but for some reason the nickel has

actually gone up.

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> It is really hard to be making steady improvement and then do

> something briefly that causes a terrible " crash. " This happened to

me

> last January with four days of salt/c, which so impaired my kidneys

> that I ended up salt intolerant, totally debilitated in a new way

for

> many months, and had to go off all my IV therapies for months. Even

> now I haven't added back in the vitamin/minerals, only glutathione

and

> IVIG, so I have fibro symptoms and wheezing, which magnesium used to

> stop. In fact, the wheezing had begun to improve, when last night I

> cleaned out a closet where the building had done construction to

> install new power lines, and I'd forgotten there was still brick

dust

> on the floor. It got stirred up and I'm wheezing again.

>

> I empathize. You will recover, but one never knows when something

> seemingly safe is going to come out of the blue like that. After my

> experience with those 4 days, I realized that " the sprinkle "

approach

> is very wise. No matter what anybody else says about any supplement,

> each body is unique.

>

> Just don't blame yourself. And let the body take its time to regain

> balance. I blamed myself for not being smarter about salt/c but

> really, the list about it had been whitewashed of negatives, and the

> person urging me to do it was misinterpreting his adverse effects

as a

> herxheimer, so he didn't even mention the negative effects.

>

> Meanwhile, I just ordered artemisia annua (whole herb) as that is

the

> first herb I'm going to try as a tea, from Buhner's protocol. I'm

> going to be very careful.

Hi Jill

Sorry to hear about your bad experience and yes it is really hard to

believe that things can turn around so badly in such a short space of

time though obviously mine took longer to develop.

In my case it was a lot to do with having a great improvement but I

got a very specialised blood test from Dr M showing the massive

nickel problem which was a bit of a shock after nearly 8 years of

fighting this illness. It explained why I still ran out of energy on

doing physical exercise but felt so well as long as I paced myself.

One other very important thing that happened during this period that

led to the collapse was that I think I got to the source of my

problem. I had to have a root filled tooth extracted that was found

to contain corroded metal pins and post and also was full of

infection right into my jawbone. That tooth had been there 25 years

and I had to go through a surgical extraction where the anesthetic

didn't work and I could feel everything, even having the jawbone

scraped out after.

This happened when I was 2 days into a severe throat infection so you

can see why it was all too much for my body. The hyperstimulation

had started 4 weeks earlier so my adrenals were getting stressed

anyway, this extraction and throat infection caused the massive crash

I believe but obviously its good that that tooth has gone at last.

Unfortunately I had run out of Cats Claw too during this period just

when I needed it but still had the Andro, JK and Smilax and have

continued with them at lower doses cos I am running out of them. I

placed an order last Tuesday but still they haven't arrived. All

very frustrating.

One thing I have noticed is that I keep getting painful glands in my

neck since that tooth was removed 2 weeks ago something I haven't had

since 2000 when I finally went down with CFS. My body is probably

trying very hard to get rid of the metals and maybe there is still a

trace of infection in the bone, it is still a bit swollen. I did

take 500mg Amocillin x 3 for a week on top of loads of echinacea,

thyme, etc Andro, Jk and SM. Do you think a week of abx would be

enough to deal with the jawbone problem?

BW

Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam, jawbone infections are supposedly more responsive to

clindamycin if tolerated because of the nature of mixed anaerobic

infections. It's good you got that infected corroded root canal out!

Perhaps the dentist can advise...

>

> One thing I have noticed is that I keep getting painful glands in my

> neck since that tooth was removed 2 weeks ago something I haven't had

> since 2000 when I finally went down with CFS. My body is probably

> trying very hard to get rid of the metals and maybe there is still a

> trace of infection in the bone, it is still a bit swollen. I did

> take 500mg Amocillin x 3 for a week on top of loads of echinacea,

> thyme, etc Andro, Jk and SM. Do you think a week of abx would be

> enough to deal with the jawbone problem?

>

> BW

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

My previous post should have said 3 days into a throat infection but I

felt ok and that is why I went to the dentist originally to have the

root tooth redone but when the dentist realised the problem with the

corroded metal it turned into a very difficult surgical extraction

where the plain anesthetic didn't work. Obviously in normal

circumstances I would never have gone to the appointment if I had known

about the infection/corroded metal, I'm not stupid!

Pam

[Guest guest]

Pam, I just puzzled over your post, and then realized that Your problem

is exactly what has happened to Me. After Lyme & friends for 10 years

(inc. 3+ years of IV Doxy and Zithromax), with assorted abx, etc.etc.,

my main DR. said I was not well because I had not " completely cleaned

up " my diet, meaning eating ZERO carbs, and taking Diflucan every day. I

told him that can not be the reason that I am still desperately ill.

(For 4 years I didn't know who or where I was).

In 2006 I went to see a specialist, Dr. S in North Jersey, who put me on

Tindamax, and I had a terrible time with Herxes, taking a year to build

up from .25 pill/day to 3/day (750 mg total). I began to get somewhat

better, but it seemed that Babesia was getting worse.

At any rate, a few months ago I began taking Chlorella, because it is

thought to be good for HM detox, and I still have several small amalgams

plus 2 root canals that I know are infected and Must come out by a

holistic surgeon. However, no money and no one known in my area.

(Our life has fallen apart because I haven't been able to work in 10

years, and we have no money, and may lose our house & everything else.)

My husband is infected as well, but can more or less function.

I had no money for the Tindamax for 2 months, and then North Jersey Dr.

gave me samples. I swiftly embarked on a devastating Herx for over 30

days (although I've had worse).

Yesterday my North Jersey LLMD called me. My recent labs had come in and

(1) sodium is extremely low and (2) free T3, T4 AND TSH are all very

low...indicating that my adrenals are exhausted, and my thyroid is down,

And, there is probably a problem with Pituitary Hypothalamus axis.

And BTW, I've been feeling terrible, unable to do anything.

I did cut down on the Chlorella and now have stopped it, after reading

your post.

I'm still really puzzled, desperate to get well, and losing hope.

But...thanks so much for your post. Muriel

PS Any thoughts/suggestions?

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[ ] Dangers of chlorella if hypothyroid

I wanted to let others know of the dreadful crash I have had because

of chlorella. I had read many warnings about it in mercury toxic

people especially from Andy Cutler.

I think I have found out why it can cause massive problems which will

lead to a major crash from the adrenals. Chlorella contains both

selenium and iodine. These will increase thryoid activity but if one

has high thyroid antibodies as I have increasing iodine can be a very

bad thing. It causes severe hyperstimulation and toxicity meaning

one has to stop Armour which leads to a very low oxygen state in the

blood and severe fatigue. One would think that this natural way was

beneficial but it isn't it causes major toxicity, severe insomnia,

anxiety, racing pulse etc.

After takingt organic chlorella for only about a week the first

symptoms of overstimulation started but I didn't make the

connection. It took about 4 weeks before I came down with a severe

throat infection which I couldn't get over and then I completely

crashed.

It has put me back to how I used to feel. My adrenals have almost

completely crashed even though I take 5mg Prednisolone every day.

Only the past few days I have been able to go back to 1 1/2 grains

Armour having stopped it for a week but during this time have hardly

been able to get off the couch. So I have gone from feeling

absolutely great for 2 months on the Buhner herbs, steroid, Armour

etc to a crash situation because of chlorella.

Looking back I remember taking a Green Food a couple of years ago and

it had exactly the same effect. When I researched it of course it

also contained iodine in excess to what is in my daily supplements.

I remember then Shomon who runs a Thyroid Website mentioned that

she too could not tolerate extra iodine, it made her completely toxic

too.

I know I would have felt worse than most on it because I am still

full of nickel and probably still too much mercury around so it is

likely I have redistribution of metals. So in order to start

improving I am going to have to do DMSA in rounds to get rid of these

heavy metals, rest and gradually rebuild my adrenals and thyroid.

I wouldn't want others to go through what I have just been through,

its a real nightmare.

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> Pam, I just puzzled over your post, and then realized that Your

problem

> is exactly what has happened to Me. After Lyme & friends for 10

years

> (inc. 3+ years of IV Doxy and Zithromax), with assorted abx,

etc.etc.,

> my main DR. said I was not well because I had not " completely

cleaned

> up " my diet, meaning eating ZERO carbs, and taking Diflucan every

day. I

> told him that can not be the reason that I am still desperately ill.

> (For 4 years I didn't know who or where I was).

>

> In 2006 I went to see a specialist, Dr. S in North Jersey, who put

me on

> Tindamax, and I had a terrible time with Herxes, taking a year to

build

> up from .25 pill/day to 3/day (750 mg total). I began to get

somewhat

> better, but it seemed that Babesia was getting worse.

>

> At any rate, a few months ago I began taking Chlorella, because it

is

> thought to be good for HM detox, and I still have several small

amalgams

> plus 2 root canals that I know are infected and Must come out by a

> holistic surgeon. However, no money and no one known in my area.

>

> (Our life has fallen apart because I haven't been able to work in 10

> years, and we have no money, and may lose our house & everything

else.)

> My husband is infected as well, but can more or less function.

>

> I had no money for the Tindamax for 2 months, and then North

Jersey Dr.

> gave me samples. I swiftly embarked on a devastating Herx for over

30

> days (although I've had worse).

>

> Yesterday my North Jersey LLMD called me. My recent labs had come

in and

> (1) sodium is extremely low and (2) free T3, T4 AND TSH are all very

> low...indicating that my adrenals are exhausted, and my thyroid is

down,

> And, there is probably a problem with Pituitary Hypothalamus axis.

>

> And BTW, I've been feeling terrible, unable to do anything.

>

> I did cut down on the Chlorella and now have stopped it, after

reading

> your post.

>

> I'm still really puzzled, desperate to get well, and losing hope.

> But...thanks so much for your post. Muriel

>

> PS Any thoughts/suggestions?

>

Hi

I am so sorry to hear of your ordeal I think the best thing you could

do would be to get hold of some Armour and low dose hydrocortisone.

Neither of them are expensive here in the UK. Would your doctor be

agreeable to this in view of your results, if not you might have to

consider self-treatment. Both these gave me enormous benefits that

happened quite quickly.

With regard to your dental issues I think it is more important to get

rid of the root-filled teeth first because these could be causing you

permanent infections as was the case with me. As you only have 2

small amalgams you could put that on hold, problems with mercury are

usually related to the number of amalgams but you have only a tiny

amount. Of course you probably also got a load of thimerosal too in

any injections you had when a child or more recently. If you are a

slow excretor this would have added to the toxic burden.

Have you looked into improving methylation as per the DAN (Defeat

Autism Now) doctors? There is quite a big on the net about this and

taking active folinic acid and methylB12 has helped to get my

detoxification going. Amy Yasko also is into this but she has made

it very complicated and quite expensive.

I do hope you can get some financial support so that you can at least

get the dental work done and also buy the Buhner herbs which really

helped me, I cannot wait to receive my new order cos I know they will

help again.

BW

Pam