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Okay, now which of the co-infections is responsible for the heavy metal issues??

I don't seem to have issues with this.. but I will ask teh LLMD to look into it

further..

Is there a connection to location involving the heavy metal issues.. are you

sure your water systems are okay?? I know my son had high lead levels,, that was

because he ate crayons before they identified them to containing lead,, only

crayola was determined safe to buy at the time.. NO crayons, no lead levels!!

please see if you can get an answer to location in connection to the heavy metal

issues???

Anyone want to respond to help out here..location??

Anyone on here ever tested highly positive on heavy metal testing?? I just

did a 24 hour urine test from Great Smokies Labs. My test came back

abnormally

high for mercury, sulphur, copper, gallium, cadmium, barium and gallidium.

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Thanks Jeannie, I'm glad I am not the only one here who is wondering...

;o)

This may be extreme, but maybe you should have your soil checked & as

mentioned, water?

Jeannie

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I was tested for heavy metal toxins and was off the chart for

mercury toxins and also tested high elevated levels for toxins

arsenic, bismuth, cadium, lead, thallium, tin, tungsten. Found out

this before I found out I had lyme.

Ali

> Anyone on here ever tested highly positive on heavy metal

testing?? I just

> did a 24 hour urine test from Great Smokies Labs. My test came

back abnormally

> high for mercury, sulphur, copper, gallium, cadmium, barium and

gallidium.

> Too low on manganese and molybedum (not sure I spelled this

right!!). I haven't

> talked to my LLMD yet but I am trying to learn more about this. I

have zero

> fillings/cavities and don't eat fish either. I am trying to

figure where this

> could have come from and what to do about it, and how or if it is

related to

> lyme. Anyone have any info, please let me know!! Thanks so much.

> in Arizona

>

>

>

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WOW

You sound like the makings for a bomb girl!

LOOK OUT!

Now watch, they will be monitoring the board for a while since I used the " B "

word!

But really you think about that combo there! YIKES!

I hope they don't find that in me...

'o)

[ ] Re: heavy metals

I was tested for heavy metal toxins and was off the chart for

mercury toxins and also tested high elevated levels for toxins

arsenic, bismuth, cadium, lead, thallium, tin, tungsten. Found out

this before I found out I had lyme.

Ali

> Anyone on here ever tested highly positive on heavy metal

testing?? I just

> did a 24 hour urine test from Great Smokies Labs. My test came

back abnormally

> high for mercury, sulphur, copper, gallium, cadmium, barium and

gallidium.

> Too low on manganese and molybedum (not sure I spelled this

right!!). I haven't

> talked to my LLMD yet but I am trying to learn more about this. I

have zero

> fillings/cavities and don't eat fish either. I am trying to

figure where this

> could have come from and what to do about it, and how or if it is

related to

> lyme. Anyone have any info, please let me know!! Thanks so much.

> in Arizona

>

>

>

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Why do some people have heavy metal toxicity and some don't? Where

does it come from? Hate to tell you this but mercury is in vaccines.

Mercury is make up. Mercury is in processed food. Mercury is in

contact lense solution. Mercury is in exhuast fumes. Mercury is in

air conditioner filters, house hold cleaners, and the list goes on

and on and on. You are exposed to mercury in every day situations

more than you can imagine-- not just from amalgams. Same goes for

the other heavy metals.

What makes the difference is that some of us cannot filter out of

our bodies efficiently what other people can. My doctor explained to

me as if my body was a rain barrel. Some people have rain barrel

bodies that have holes in it that can flood the water out after the

rain storm leaving it empty for the next rain storm. My rain barrel

body has pin prick holes so the water cannot flood out efficiently

and therefore retains it. When the next storm comes it loads up more

and the next storm comes and loads up more. After time my rain

barrel is full up. My body is loaded up with heavy metal toxins

because over time more came in then went out.

Here is a site that gives some good information on it. Hope it helps.

http://www.ephca.com/metals.htm

Ali

> Anyone on here ever tested highly positive on heavy metal

testing?? I just

> did a 24 hour urine test from Great Smokies Labs. My test came

back abnormally

> high for mercury, sulphur, copper, gallium, cadmium, barium and

gallidium.

> Too low on manganese and molybedum (not sure I spelled this

right!!). I haven't

> talked to my LLMD yet but I am trying to learn more about this. I

have zero

> fillings/cavities and don't eat fish either. I am trying to

figure where this

> could have come from and what to do about it, and how or if it is

related to

> lyme. Anyone have any info, please let me know!! Thanks so much.

> in Arizona

>

>

>

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I wasn't happy, . I told my doctor I was a Parasitic Toxin

Host! I was so dismayed. Still am. What an awful thing for a body to

be carrying around. Then to realize that not only did I have

spirochetes, but also...okay, I know I'm being totally gross, but

they are no longer in me, dropped a load of flat worms and a lot of

fluke worms (three weeks worth). The antibiotics, oil of oregano,

and probiotics are responsible for getting those out after the lat

of the mercury amalgams were removed. OMG, I'm just glad they are

out of my intestines. Geez. I'm really hating all of this. I start

chelating after I meet with my doc tomorrow. Just want all those

toxins OUT!

Ali aka PTH or The Bomb! lol

> WOW

> You sound like the makings for a bomb girl!

> LOOK OUT!

> Now watch, they will be monitoring the board for a while since I

used the " B " word!

> But really you think about that combo there! YIKES!

> I hope they don't find that in me...

> 'o)

>

>

> [ ] Re: heavy metals

>

>

> I was tested for heavy metal toxins and was off the chart for

> mercury toxins and also tested high elevated levels for toxins

> arsenic, bismuth, cadium, lead, thallium, tin, tungsten. Found

out

> this before I found out I had lyme.

> Ali

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In a message dated 5/20/2003 8:40:54 PM Central Daylight Time,

kattali99@... writes:

> How on earth do you get them? Lordy. The things I learn. First, yes

> I do wash my hands thoroughly after I go to the bathroom. However,

> do you know how mnay people do not!!!!! It scares me! That is how

> some people get them.

>

Even scarier is the thought of eating at a restaurant and thinking about how

many people there could be handling the food you are going to eat and didn't

wash their hands after going to the bathroom. I work in an eating

establishment and we had a girl with a sexually transmitted disease and she

told a friend there she didn't want to spend the money on the antibiotic to

get over it because she was saving her money for a birthday party for her

boyfriend. It was said she would go to the bathroom and not washing her

hands after and then tossing salads. Well our Chef shortly after that fired

her for coming to work something like 20 minutes late. Think he wasn't

looking for a reason? He didn't have proof of her not washing her hands but

he could fire her for being late which she had done before and nothing was

said. Just a thought here on how things can get transmitted that we would

never think about.

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How on earth do you get them?? don't answer, I'm afraid to hear...I hear ya the

out part! I would too, it is bad enough to have to deal with the keets alone,

yet to have more than that goin on there..

They tested me for parasites thought that was why i had the S---s, but negative

on that issue, thank G for that!Not sure what the flukes are, but I sure don't

wannem bet you don't either had pin worms before, well it wasn't me it was my

boys, talk about having ants in the pants.. they make you move!!!

I felt like i had em.. eh?!

lol

----- Original Message -----

, I know I'm being totally gross, but

they are no longer in me, dropped a load of flat worms and a lot of

fluke worms (three weeks worth). The antibiotics, oil of oregano,

chelating after I meet with my doc tomorrow. Just want all those

toxins OUT!

Ali aka PTH or The Bomb! lol

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How on earth do you get them? Lordy. The things I learn. First, yes

I do wash my hands thoroughly after I go to the bathroom. However,

do you know how mnay people do not!!!!! It scares me! That is how

some people get them.

Other ways: fruits and vegetables, meat and fish, drinking water,

personal hygiene, parasites can live for two months under finger

nails (think about that the next time you want to bite your nails),

dust (contains skin, soil particles, fecal material from dust

mites/cockroaches), walking barefoot (parasites abundant in soil

which is absorbed through skin), working in the garden, swimming in

lakes/rivers/ponds/public swimming pools, pets (can spread 240

diseases to humans b/c of parasites.

Now don't you just feel special!

Just a hint, they say washing the fruits and vegetables in 1

teaspoon hydrogen peroxide per gallon of water will kill parasites

and spraying meats and fish with hydrogen peroxide before cooking

will kill parasites. I didn't know that.

They also recommend not eating fruits and vegetables that have a

nick or recess b/c they harbor parasites. They suggest drinking pure

water. Not to walk barefoot. Always wear gloves when working with

soil. Never swallow water when swimming anywhere. Never swim if you

have cuts or open sores. Well, you know about global travel.

They suggest cloves with every meal b/c cloves help kill eggs from

parasites in the intestinal tract. Keep friendly bacteria in

place...which we have to do with probiotics given we need to be on

antibiotics if you are doing that form of treatment for lyme.

One thing... parasites are aerobic. They need oxygen to live. So

provide a non oxygenated environment and they cannot live. Distilled

water is less alkaline so it is the purest form. This is the ozone

level that they cannot thrive in. Just so you know.

More educated you are the more you can do to help yourself. I know

it's gross. But anyway, hope it helps.

Ali

> How on earth do you get them?? don't answer, I'm afraid to

hear...I hear ya the out part! I would too, it is bad enough to have

to deal with the keets alone, yet to have more than that goin on

there..

>

> They tested me for parasites thought that was why i had the S---

s, but negative on that issue, thank G for that!Not sure what the

flukes are, but I sure don't wannem bet you don't either had pin

worms before, well it wasn't me it was my boys, talk about having

ants in the pants.. they make you move!!!

> I felt like i had em.. eh?!

> lol

> ----- Original Message -----

> , I know I'm being totally gross, but

> they are no longer in me, dropped a load of flat worms and a lot

of

> fluke worms (three weeks worth). The antibiotics, oil of

oregano,

>

> chelating after I meet with my doc tomorrow. Just want all those

> toxins OUT!

> Ali aka PTH or The Bomb! lol

>

>

>

>

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How do you use the oil or oregano? I know someone who rubs it on her

boys feet for nausea. How does it help with Lyme or worms???? Barb

- In , " Ali " <kattali99@a...> wrote:

> I wasn't happy, . I told my doctor I was a Parasitic Toxin

> Host! I was so dismayed. Still am. What an awful thing for a body to

> be carrying around. Then to realize that not only did I have

> spirochetes, but also...okay, I know I'm being totally gross, but

> they are no longer in me, dropped a load of flat worms and a lot of

> fluke worms (three weeks worth). The antibiotics, oil of oregano,

> and probiotics are responsible for getting those out after the lat

> of the mercury amalgams were removed. OMG, I'm just glad they are

> out of my intestines. Geez. I'm really hating all of this. I start

> chelating after I meet with my doc tomorrow. Just want all those

> toxins OUT!

> Ali aka PTH or The Bomb! lol

>

>

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Do you remember ever playing with mercury as a kid (some people remember

bouncing the ball from a thermometer around for example?) You can also get

mercury passed down from your parents. Other sources of mercury are injections

including vaccines. Those are the most common causes. If you don't have any of

them, and don't eat fish or have cavities, it is hard to guess.

Thanks,

Doris

[ ] heavy metals

Anyone on here ever tested highly positive on heavy metal testing?? I just

did a 24 hour urine test from Great Smokies Labs. My test came back

abnormally

high for mercury, sulphur, copper, gallium, cadmium, barium and gallidium.

Too low on manganese and molybedum (not sure I spelled this right!!). I

haven't

talked to my LLMD yet but I am trying to learn more about this. I have zero

fillings/cavities and don't eat fish either. I am trying to figure where this

could have come from and what to do about it, and how or if it is related to

lyme. Anyone have any info, please let me know!! Thanks so much.

in Arizona

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well it is a personal peeve of mine not to use public restrooms. I guess I have

been fortunate or subconsciously able to adjust my life styles in order to avoid

just that issue.. I guess a major favor on my part!

I am guilty of the barefoot, my fathers pet peeve was wearing slippers, which I

hated in my early years. got over that recently. have to wear something now

always?? Go figure!

also the glove issue was a problem before, I always wear them now. another go

figure!

grapefruit extract is highly recommended for bad bacteria killing also..

holy cow batman,, looks like the world is a treacherous place, nothing, and I

mean nothing is safe!!!

I think I am going to just give up the ship man, this is really starting to

sound like my husband had a grip on the whole thing,, more than I could ever..He

was ready for death and didn't tell a soul... God took him, and now i wish he

had taken me first! I got the short end of the deal!Gee wiz!

How on earth do you get them? Lordy. The things I learn. First, yes

I do wash my hands thoroughly after I go to the bathroom. However,

do you know how mnay people do not!!!!! It scares me! That is how

some people get them.

Other ways: fruits and vegetables, meat and fish, drinking water,

personal hygiene, parasites can live for two months under finger

nails (think about that the next time you want to bite your nails),

dust (contains skin, soil particles, fecal material from dust

mites/cockroaches), walking barefoot (parasites abundant in soil

which is absorbed through skin), working in the garden, swimming in

lakes/rivers/ponds/public swimming pools, pets (can spread 240

diseases to humans b/c of parasites.

Now don't you just feel special!

Just a hint, they say washing the fruits and vegetables in 1

teaspoon hydrogen peroxide per gallon of water will kill parasites

and spraying meats and fish with hydrogen peroxide before cooking

will kill parasites. I didn't know that.

They also recommend not eating fruits and vegetables that have a

nick or recess b/c they harbor parasites. They suggest drinking pure

water. Not to walk barefoot. Always wear gloves when working with

soil. Never swallow water when swimming anywhere. Never swim if you

have cuts or open sores. Well, you know about global travel.

They suggest cloves with every meal b/c cloves help kill eggs from

parasites in the intestinal tract. Keep friendly bacteria in

place...which we have to do with probiotics given we need to be on

antibiotics if you are doing that form of treatment for lyme.

One thing... parasites are aerobic. They need oxygen to live. So

provide a non oxygenated environment and they cannot live. Distilled

water is less alkaline so it is the purest form. This is the ozone

level that they cannot thrive in. Just so you know.

More educated you are the more you can do to help yourself. I know

it's gross. But anyway, hope it helps.

Ali

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Yes (I suspect) most of us have tested Off the Charts for Mercury

Posioning and various other Heavy Metals.

I did alot of research on this. I put together a whole booklet,

concerning source, treatment, etc.

Back door me if you want me to sent it to you.

Basically, you will need to go through a Chelation Process.

Sources Include, but are not limited to the following:

Fish

Vaccines

Amalgams

Microbes in our Gut

We live in a very toxic environment ... so Source is not as

important, unless you have amalgams, which would need to be removed

prior to chelation.

No matter which Chelation Process you go through ... (usually

Captomer - DMSA) ... I stongly suggest trying out different dosages,

as the mercury can become too mobilized and end up getting

redeposited and making you feel really ill.

DMSA is not sulfa drug like DPMS. The base is succinic acid. It is

only taken orally and is the only chemical chelator that can cross

the blood brain barrier to take mercury out of the brain.

I also recommend using Chorella(Cracked Cell). Oral Chlorella binds

mercury which comes out in the bile and prevent its reabsorption is a

good idea.

It will be important to support your liver and kidneys with additonal

detoxification processes. (Colonics/Enemnas will help pull out the

toxins for the Liver.) Kidneys ... Lots of water, and you could look

up Hulda s Kidney Cleanse (hydranga Root, etc.)

Be prepared for a long process. Can take up to more than a year. I

am still working on mine.

Good Luck!

(Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse hey?)

Laugh out Loud.

Sincerely,

is

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You can buy oil of oregano is capsule form. I get mine in the health

food store. Soft gel form. Comes in 150mg. I take 2 capsules twice a

day. You have to take them at least 2 hours after you take the

antibiotics though or though the antibiotics will make them

noneffective.

Ali

> How do you use the oil or oregano? I know someone who rubs it on

her

> boys feet for nausea. How does it help with Lyme or worms???? Barb

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Re: mercury

One third of mercury pollution comes from coal

burning power plants which emit airborne

mercury. A tiny amount of mercury can

contaminate an entire watershed--when it lands

in water it is converted to methylmercury which

accumulates in tissue--the higher up the food

chain you go, the more mercury you are

exposed to. Fish and seafood are the main

source of mercury in the human diet. Some fish

are worse than others--a web page that lists

which fish to avoid is at:

www.pirg.org/toxics/reports/brainfood

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I found a great product to get rid of germs. It is called the orginal GSE. It

is grapefruit extract. I wash all vegetables and fruits with it . It tastes

better than the anti baterial soap I sometimes did not get offf veggies and

fruit. You can get it at a health food store. I also wash the outside of all

fruits and veggies even if you peel them cause they can have may have e-coli etc

on outside and when you cut into them makes the inside contaminatted. Hope this

helps.

Lynnelle

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How on earth do you get them? Lordy. The things I learn. First, yes

I do wash my hands thoroughly after I go to the bathroom. However,

do you know how mnay people do not!!!!! It scares me! That is how

some people get them.

Other ways: fruits and vegetables, meat and fish, drinking water,

personal hygiene, parasites can live for two months under finger

nails (think about that the next time you want to bite your nails),

dust (contains skin, soil particles, fecal material from dust

mites/cockroaches), walking barefoot (parasites abundant in soil

which is absorbed through skin), working in the garden, swimming in

lakes/rivers/ponds/public swimming pools, pets (can spread 240

diseases to humans b/c of parasites.

Now don't you just feel special!

Just a hint, they say washing the fruits and vegetables in 1

teaspoon hydrogen peroxide per gallon of water will kill parasites

and spraying meats and fish with hydrogen peroxide before cooking

will kill parasites. I didn't know that.

They also recommend not eating fruits and vegetables that have a

nick or recess b/c they harbor parasites. They suggest drinking pure

water. Not to walk barefoot. Always wear gloves when working with

soil. Never swallow water when swimming anywhere. Never swim if you

have cuts or open sores. Well, you know about global travel.

They suggest cloves with every meal b/c cloves help kill eggs from

parasites in the intestinal tract. Keep friendly bacteria in

place...which we have to do with probiotics given we need to be on

antibiotics if you are doing that form of treatment for lyme.

One thing... parasites are aerobic. They need oxygen to live. So

provide a non oxygenated environment and they cannot live. Distilled

water is less alkaline so it is the purest form. This is the ozone

level that they cannot thrive in. Just so you know.

More educated you are the more you can do to help yourself. I know

it's gross. But anyway, hope it helps.

Ali

> How on earth do you get them?? don't answer, I'm afraid to

hear...I hear ya the out part! I would too, it is bad enough to have

to deal with the keets alone, yet to have more than that goin on

there..

>

> They tested me for parasites thought that was why i had the S---

s, but negative on that issue, thank G for that!Not sure what the

flukes are, but I sure don't wannem bet you don't either had pin

worms before, well it wasn't me it was my boys, talk about having

ants in the pants.. they make you move!!!

> I felt like i had em.. eh?!

> lol

> ----- Original Message -----

> , I know I'm being totally gross, but

> they are no longer in me, dropped a load of flat worms and a lot

of

> fluke worms (three weeks worth). The antibiotics, oil of

oregano,

>

> chelating after I meet with my doc tomorrow. Just want all those

> toxins OUT!

> Ali aka PTH or The Bomb! lol

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 5/20/2003 5:35:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

bailieboy@... writes:

> Anyone have any info, please let me know!! Thanks so much.

> in Arizona

>

>

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I have great info on detoxing from heavy metals!!! I have a few suggestions.

please write to me @ suemassie45@... and I will share with you this

info, gratis!!! (No charge)

sue in nj

sue massie, CNHP

Nature's Garden of Health

732 933-4011

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I have an excellent source for chelation.. .please check out BioChelate from

Target Your Health. (www.targetyourhealth.org) out of Germany. Supposedly it

is one of the safest ways to do it and I have had quick results with this

with my clients.

Any questions, plz call me.

sue in nj

sue massie, CNHP

Nature's Garden of Health

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  • 1 year later...

I read that Bentonite phyllium shakes will do that

and started doing them myself a couple three months ago

and I feel better for it. I have done liver flushes too and that seems

to

have helped as well.

Kirk

On Jan 8, 2005, at 11:39 AM, shoogachopz wrote:

>

> Hi All,

> Does anyone know an all natural way to rid the body of heavy metals. 

> A friend of mine had bloodwork done for a job position and they found

> his levels of mercury, cadmium, arsenic, iron etc high.  I had a 24

> hour urinalysis done per my naturopath and was only high in Arsenic.

>

> I do liver flushes, eat healthy/organic, daily massage, lemon and

> water 3 times a day.  Not sure if anyone knows of any beneficial ways

> to rid these metals.

>

> Thanks a bunch,

> M

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi, M!

Some heavy metals will only come out of the skin through sweat. So,

beneficials for metals are to work out and sweat, dry brush your skin

before showers to stimulate your lymphs and circulation to expell

toxins, hot showers after dry brushing to help you sweat it out.

Also, epsom salt/baking soda HOT baths are excellent for pulling

toxins/metals out of your body. 1 cup epsom/1.5 cups baking soda in

the water and try to soak for 20 to 30 minutes, keeping a bottle of

water on hand to drink through the process to rehydrate you. If you

have access to a sauna or hot tub, those are great.

Sincerely,

Jelaine

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Dear M

-start off with removing all dental amalgams (by someone who knows how

to remove them properly)

- buy organic food if you can afford it. If you can't, wash all veggies

etc very thoroughly.

- are you living on or near the main road or a gas/petrol station? these

are some of the sources of heavy metals

- are you getting vaccines? these are full of ethyl mercury

- arsenic can also come from apricot kernels and almonds, so if you're

eating a lot of almonds you'll have measurable amounts of arsenic

- various household sprays can contain heavy metals...especially bad are

insect sprays of all kinds.

- you can do very expensive chelation therapy for removing heavy metals

(this works for many people) - the least expensive is doing a lot of

sweating in the form of exercise only. In a discussion a few weeks back

someone mentioned that saunas are not great, because they cook your skin

from the outside in...you want to heat up from the inside out and start

the sweating that way.

- eat lots of lovely animal fats - pork and duck crackling will do the

trick

try these for a start, I'm sure you will see improvement.

best of health

Irene

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Hi All,

Does anyone know an all natural way to rid the body of heavy metals.

A friend of mine had bloodwork done for a job position and they found

his levels of mercury, cadmium, arsenic, iron etc high. I had a 24

hour urinalysis done per my naturopath and was only high in Arsenic.

I do liver flushes, eat healthy/organic, daily massage, lemon and

water 3 times a day. Not sure if anyone knows of any beneficial ways

to rid these metals.

Thanks a bunch,

M

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Hi M,

The other suggestions were very good except psyllium & bentonite.

I would agree with Irene's suggestion about upping your good fats,

because butter and coconut oil do chelate out heavy metals and are

very important.

Also, chlorophyll chelates out heavy metals. Liquid is okay take at

least 1 tablespoon per day in water, or take chlorella tablets.

I took chlorella all the way through my candida program, and I got

well in spite of mercury fillings in my teeth because I couldn't

afford to get them removed.

Did you know that your body is always working hard at removing heavy

metals - giving it more of what it needs to do the job is the key.

Luv,

Bee

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Hi

I am intersted in your comment that butter and coconut oil chelate heavy metals.

How do they do that?

Any one got some technical info? I like to have all the scientific facts about

these things.

Sandy

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Hi M,

The other suggestions were very good except psyllium & bentonite.

I would agree with Irene's suggestion about upping your good fats,

because butter and coconut oil do chelate out heavy metals and are

very important.

Also, chlorophyll chelates out heavy metals. Liquid is okay take at

least 1 tablespoon per day in water, or take chlorella tablets.

I took chlorella all the way through my candida program, and I got

well in spite of mercury fillings in my teeth because I couldn't

afford to get them removed.

Did you know that your body is always working hard at removing heavy

metals - giving it more of what it needs to do the job is the key.

Luv,

Bee

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> So meat and butter will help. A ND that I went to put dmps liquid on

> my neck with laser.

==>I don't understand " dmps liquid on your neck with laser " - are you

doing that now, or was that done in the past?

>>He said that it was to help it chelate out the metals. I think it

stirred my candida up and made everything worse. Any suggestions?

==>Whatever you feel caused problems stop doing it, and follow what is

recommended in my article. It will detoxify anything bad you had

before.

Bee

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