Re: 2 questions on skin & buhner protocol

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> If have HUGE stretch marks all over - though I assumed it was due to my size/

weight. I've been morbidly obese nearly all of my life ( I'm 50 now)

> I've lost 100 lbs in the last few years ( intentionally) & am wondering if I

could do anything to help my skin

> I've been taking a collagen supplement (rid cal) to help my adrenals & skin

> Yet I see no improvements w skin

> I figure it's sort of like pregnancy stretch marks - but some came on fast a

number of years ago - in my 30's I think

> Even on the insides of my knees

I lost some weight due to Lyme and also have very obvious stretch marks - not

the type that is sometimes seen with Bartonella infection, but more like what

you see after pregnancy. I'm male and in my forties, went from skinny (about 63

kg) to about 55 kg when the Lyme was worst a few years ago. Now back to about 61

kg but the stretch marks are still there and seem to be getting even more

visible.

I have used the full Buhner collagen protocol for some months, but did not see

any improvement in my skin symptoms (I have other issues like disappearing

connective tissue, thin/fragile skin, easily bruised etc.). Probably it depends

on the individual, and maybe on the Bb type that you are infected with.

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Dear Randy,

My understanding is that Buhner supports people taking

andrographis, yet it isn't the number one herb these days. He

recommends taking Japanese Knotweed, Cat's Claw and Eleuthero, and then

after a while, starting small amounts of andrographis to see if it

helps. Some people cannot handle it, some can.

His recommendation is for artemisia annua, generally for Babesia, and

possibly for more. You can get the whole-herb tincture via iherb.com

On the " stretch marks " : do they itch? My bartonella rashes are streaks

that itch. They come and go. I guess everyone is different. I assume

they are bartonella rashes.

Lithium orotate can usually be purchased via iherb.com If they don't

have it in stock, usually professional supplement center has it

www.professionalsupplementcenter.com

It sounds like you have a lot of energy, with all that you are doing!

So glad you are able to make your own formulas and herb blends when

possible.

Hope some of this helps.

And that you are able to rest.....

Peace, ease, gratitude,

yarrow

Randy wrote:

Hello all

In the last few weeks, 2 postings jarred some questions

I don't recall who posted

1) someone commented buhner changed his protocol, dropping andrographis

completely & adding wormwood instead

Might someone be able to post that link ?

Also, WHICH Wormwood??

There are at least 2 that I know of

2) skin/ stretch marks. - someone posted that stretch marks are an

indication of

??? 1 of the co- infections I think

Might someone share more & what / if anything can be done ?

If have HUGE stretch marks all over - though I assumed it was due to my

size/

weight. I've been morbidly obese nearly all of my life ( I'm 50 now)

I've lost 100 lbs in the last few years ( intentionally) & am wondering if I

could do anything to help my skin

I've been taking a collagen supplement (rid cal) to help my adrenals & skin

Yet I see no improvements w skin

I figure it's sort of like pregnancy stretch marks - but some came on fast a

number of years ago - in my 30's I think

Even on the insides of my knees

Dr R @ niha thinks I've had Lyme for 20-30 yrs based on C4A

I'm going in for a re- check in late October - after getting the diagnosis &

starting the protocol july

I'm doing a combination of protocols & cleanses

Buhner's old core, + Dr R's, plus additional cleanses ( essiac, sonne's #7,

zapper based on Rife, but not a Rife machine, colon cleanse fiber &

tincture, &

coffee enemas, FIR saunas 2-3x/ week, occasional Epsom salt bath) & I

just added

lithium arginate ( I couldn't easily find orotate), as well as

nutritional teas

I make most of what I take, capsules, tinctures & teas

Though some things must be purchased : vit D, banderol, & other supplements

In the last few weeks my energy is beginning to improve, though I still

am still

not getting enough rest - in part due to my job & other commitments

Any input/ source info on my questions would be appreciated

Thanks much

Wishing you Light & Love & Ease of well being

Randy

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> I have read that stretch marks or striated rashes can be indicators of

> Bartonella. Do a web search on " striated rashes Bartonella " and you'll see

> what I mean.

yes, but these look different from the ones that are probably associated with

sudden weight loss or connective tissue problems.

My stretch marks look like lines with thinner and thicker connective tissue,

with slightly white/blueish color differences. They are most obvious in the

regios where tissue (connective tissue, muscle tissue etc.) has disappeared.

The Bartonella marks look more like the result of inflammation, with reddish

color changes, a bit like when your skin is scratched.