Re: Negative side effects of treatment apply to all people or only those with Lyme?

[Guest guest]

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> Do the antibiotics/herbs have negative side effects for everyone or just those

with Lyme Disease?

antibiotics have negative side effects for most people, if you take them long

enough. But it depends strongly on the person and the ABX type/dose that is

taken. Probably lymies are more at risk because their detox load is higher. Side

effects of the Buhner herbs are relatively mild, mostly gut disturbance and a

rare allergic reaction to andrographis.

P.S.: antibiotics and herbs also can have positive side effects, e.g. many

popular antibiotics have anti-inflammatory action and some like rocephin can

have benefits for brain chemistry.

> Is any indication of how long it takes before someone begins to feel better?

not really: some people see clear improvement within a week, others no

improvement for months.

[Guest guest]

I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious if anyone knows the answer, as

well.

Connie

[ ] Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

I'm new to this post and to Lyme Disease in general. I have more chronic

problems that have persisted for approximately 10 years that initially presented

as neurological in nature. One of my doctors who is lyme literate, has been

treating me for Lyme Disease, though I'm not positive by CDC standards. I've

just finished a month of antibiotics and am three weeks into the core Buhner

protocol. It's definitely been rough going since I started this treatment with

no improvement so far. Do the antibiotics/herbs have negative side effects for

everyone or just those with Lyme Disease? Is any indication of how long it takes

before someone begins to feel better?

[Guest guest]

People without lyme can have GI upset etc with the herbs, but not herxing type

systoms if the do not have lyme. I asked that of Bruhner and Dr. Cowden early on

in my search for an answer before i had my diagnosis. I hope this helps

From: Connie Blaze <connieblaz@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 11:58 AM

 

I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious if anyone knows the answer, as

well.

Connie

[ ] Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

I'm new to this post and to Lyme Disease in general. I have more chronic

problems that have persisted for approximately 10 years that initially presented

as neurological in nature. One of my doctors who is lyme literate, has been

treating me for Lyme Disease, though I'm not positive by CDC standards. I've

just finished a month of antibiotics and am three weeks into the core Buhner

protocol. It's definitely been rough going since I started this treatment with

no improvement so far. Do the antibiotics/herbs have negative side effects for

everyone or just those with Lyme Disease? Is any indication of how long it takes

before someone begins to feel better?

[Guest guest]

Thanks-your reply does help. I've had a mild reaction GI-wise, expecially when I

take the herbs with food. I didn't have much trouble with the antibiotics-though

I don't want to take another round of them. But the increased fatigue, floaters,

joint pain, etc have been harder to manage. I'll keep checking in on this post

so I can learn more...

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> From: Connie Blaze <connieblaz@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

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> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 11:58 AM

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> I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious if anyone knows the answer,

as well.

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> Connie

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> [ ] Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

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> I'm new to this post and to Lyme Disease in general. I have more chronic

problems that have persisted for approximately 10 years that initially presented

as neurological in nature. One of my doctors who is lyme literate, has been

treating me for Lyme Disease, though I'm not positive by CDC standards. I've

just finished a month of antibiotics and am three weeks into the core Buhner

protocol. It's definitely been rough going since I started this treatment with

no improvement so far. Do the antibiotics/herbs have negative side effects for

everyone or just those with Lyme Disease? Is any indication of how long it takes

before someone begins to feel better?

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[Guest guest]

 

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One of the Herx'ing effects for me are the following increase in symptoms...

 

Treating Babesia I have increased anxiety and fatigue if I am not detoxing well

(liver, lymph system and kidneys..oh and bowles) So I have to take homeopathic

drops to help those systems to drain. When I added Vit C, Pregnenalone, DHEA and

Vitamin B-12 injectable it did also help me a great deal. Next we are adding

injectable magnesium.

 

Treating Bartonella and Bb I get increased GI stuff, joint and bone pain and

tremor if I don't keep things moving again as above.

 

Although I have bad days when I do have clear/good days they are very good and

that gives me great hope during my healing.

 

I do hope this helps some and gives you some comfort.

 

Blessings,

From: kllybnntt <kllybnntt@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 4:48 AM

 

Thanks-your reply does help. I've had a mild reaction GI-wise, expecially when I

take the herbs with food. I didn't have much trouble with the antibiotics-though

I don't want to take another round of them. But the increased fatigue, floaters,

joint pain, etc have been harder to manage. I'll keep checking in on this post

so I can learn more...

>

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> From: Connie Blaze <connieblaz@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

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> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 11:58 AM

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>

> I don't know the answer to this, but I'm curious if anyone knows the answer,

as well.

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> Connie

>

> [ ] Negative side effects of treatment apply to all

people or only those with Lyme?

>

> I'm new to this post and to Lyme Disease in general. I have more chronic

problems that have persisted for approximately 10 years that initially presented

as neurological in nature. One of my doctors who is lyme literate, has been

treating me for Lyme Disease, though I'm not positive by CDC standards. I've

just finished a month of antibiotics and am three weeks into the core Buhner

protocol. It's definitely been rough going since I started this treatment with

no improvement so far. Do the antibiotics/herbs have negative side effects for

everyone or just those with Lyme Disease? Is any indication of how long it takes

before someone begins to feel better?

>

>

[Guest guest]

" Treating Babesia I have increased anxiety and fatigue if I am not detoxing well

(liver, lymph system and kidneys..oh and bowles) So I have to take homeopathic

drops to help those systems to drain. "

, what homeopathic drops are you using for detox?

- Jen

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen!

 

My LL-ND has me on the following

 

SyDetox for the liver. 3-15drops twice daily (Started out small and worked my

way up listening to my body on all of them)

 

ITIRES for Lymphatics 5-15 drops twice daily

 

RENELIX for kidneys 1-10 drops twice daily

 

here is the link the ITIRES and RENELIX are made by PEKANA but the SyDetox is on

this wesite also. I have to be careful with the RENELIX for kidneys as it can

make you tired.

 

I hope this helps!!  Hugs

 

ITIRES and RENELIX here

http://www.bioresourceinc.com/pekana/

 

SyDetox here

http://www.bioresourceinc.com/syntrion/

 

 

 

 

 

From: jen kahn <jen_ithaca@...>

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Negative side effects of treatment apply to

all people or only those with Lyme?

Lyme Treatment

Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 12:28 PM

 

" Treating Babesia I have increased anxiety and fatigue if I am not detoxing well

(liver, lymph system and kidneys..oh and bowles) So I have to take homeopathic

drops to help those systems to drain. "

, what homeopathic drops are you using for detox?

- Jen