Re: What ALL hits Bartonella?

[Guest guest]

My wife appears to have gotten relief from Bartonella with CS and DP100 rife

machine. I have heard similar stories from other's doing the same protocol.

www.lyme-resource.com

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> [ ] What ALL hits Bartonella?

>

> Just curious

>

> Knotweed

> Boneset

> ...

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[Guest guest]

Uason,

As far as I can tell from my Buhner readings, Knotweed goes after both Lyme and

Bartonella. Boneset is listed under Buhner's herbs for Bart as well, but I think

it is used more for an immune regulator with Red Root added for liver and spleen

support, if needed.

I am new to this though, so hopefully someone with more experience will post as

well.

Mira

[Guest guest]

Ya, I knew that.

Was just curious if anybody had other herbs that they knew hit Bartonella in

some way.

Like someone told me freeze dried garlic has action against Bart.

And possibly Phellodendron (never heard of that)

>

> Uason,

>

> As far as I can tell from my Buhner readings, Knotweed goes after both Lyme

and Bartonella. Boneset is listed under Buhner's herbs for Bart as well, but I

think it is used more for an immune regulator with Red Root added for liver and

spleen support, if needed.

>

> I am new to this though, so hopefully someone with more experience will post

as well.

>

> Mira

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Like someone told me freeze dried garlic has action against Bart.

it probably has some action against Bart; garlic is a strong quorum sensing

blocker, and this helps keeping a lot of pathogenic bacteria silent. So it will

help, but it will not fully cure.

[Guest guest]

I got prescribed Cumanda tincture from NutraMedix. 10drops 2x a day.

I dont know how effective it is, and I dont know if I have Bartonella but two

things started happening since I started taking it about 3-4 wks ago. for about

2 wks, ending late last week, whenever I would bend over and straighten back

up, I would get a big stabbing sharp pain in my head, very intense enough to

make me pause, close my eyes and wait for it to pass. the other new symptom was

blurry vision/seeing double. At the time I wondered if it was a herx reaction

or something related to eating sugar......but I've never had the head pain

following bending over before. blurry vision I have had.

So is there any test or just symptoms to diagnose Bartonella?

[Guest guest]

Although I can't yet tolerate the die-off, and have a lot of cleansing to do

before I can, Byron White's A-BART formula was effective enough to give me one

hell of a herx.

Ingredients/Therapeutic Profile

A-BART™contains 9 herbal ingredients that have been glass-tinctured and

specially energized through a 7-step

proprietary Micronized Herbal Process developed by natural health care

practitioner and master herbalist

Byron White. Produced in a highly potent herb 1:1 herb to alcohol ratio, the

extracts help stimulate the

immune system's ability to fight infections. All herbs are hand selected from

organic or wild-crafted sources,

and supported by certificates of analysis to ensure high quality. These active

ingredients are:

Gou Teng: This herb has been used to lower the excitability of the central

nervous system. Used also in Chinese medicine for hypertension,

convulsions, headache, dizziness and apoplexy. A published journal article

written by scientists in the Department of Oriental Pharmaceutical

Science at South Korea's Kyung Hee University found the aqueous extract of gou

teng may increase serotonin levels in the brain, resulting in

mood and cognitive improvements, as well as help in the treatment of OCD, IBS,

fibromyalgia, depression and anxiety.

Neem: This herb's anti-viral, anti bacterial and anti-fungal effects are well

documented. Evidence exists for its use in pneumonia, ulcers, gout,

diabetes, hypertension, skin infection and wound healing. The essential fatty

acid content in Neem is high.

Grapefruit Seed: Grapefruit seed is considered therapeutic against hundreds of

different bacteria, virus, parasite and fungal strains. The

extract from the seeds helps inhibit intestinal infections while balancing

healthy bacteria. It is a strong antioxidant with high nutrient values,

including biotin and Vitamin C. It also is helpful with lymphatic drainage and

elimination of toxins.

Indian Sarsaparilla: This herb has its action on circulation, autoimmunity,

joint disease, digestive issues and viral infections. It is potentially

most important as a rich nutrient and alkaloid source. For example, this

provides saponin, panillin, cetyl-alcohol, cobolt, pollinstanol selenium,

smilagenin, stigmasterol, zinc and Beta and Epsilon-sitosterol.

Poke Root: Poke root helps detox the lymphatic system. It stimulates production

of B and T immune cells and is active as an antiinflammatory,

anti-viral and antibacterial agent. Rich in alkaloids that produce antihistamine

effects, it also increases the brain's production of

GABA.

Licorice: Licorice binds to many types of neurotoxins, making it important as a

detoxification agent. It contains mucogenic agents that soothe

stomach and duodenal ulcers. It has been used in the treatment of chronic

fatigue syndrome, and may have antiviral effects.

Garlic: Garlic functions as a broad-spectrum antimicrobial and metabolic agent.

It has historically been used as an anti-fungal, anti-bacterial,

anti-spirochete, anti-septic, diaphoretic, diuretic, expectorant and heavy metal

chelator. It supports liver detoxification and decreases LDL

cholesterol. It is a cardiovascular tonic, helps with the biosynthesis of fatty

acids and phospholipids, and acts as an anti-clotting agent.

Clove: This herb acts as a tonic, febrifuge, antiseptic and anti-fungal with

anti-parasitic activity.

Usnea: This herb is a broad-spectrum antimicrobial that affects viruses,

protozoa, Candida, trichamonas, Chlamydia and other microorganisms.

It also is used as an analgesic and cyst buster.

In a base of organic grape alcohol (40% by volume), filtered spring water

[Guest guest]

Aurora,

Awesome post. That combo looks good.

Ironically I took Sarsaparilla last night... and had a HUGE Bart herx (frontal

headache, nausea, twitching)

It was rough... but I do believe either a Bart or Lyme herx.

>

> Although I can't yet tolerate the die-off, and have a lot of cleansing to do

before I can, Byron White's A-BART formula was effective enough to give me one

hell of a herx.

>

> Ingredients/Therapeutic Profile

> A-BART™contains 9 herbal ingredients that have been glass-tinctured and

specially energized through a 7-step

> proprietary Micronized Herbal Process developed by natural health care

practitioner and master herbalist

> Byron White. Produced in a highly potent herb 1:1 herb to alcohol ratio, the

extracts help stimulate the

> immune system's ability to fight infections. All herbs are hand selected from

organic or wild-crafted sources,

> and supported by certificates of analysis to ensure high quality. These active

ingredients are:

> Gou Teng: This herb has been used to lower the excitability of the central

nervous system. Used also in Chinese medicine for hypertension,

> convulsions, headache, dizziness and apoplexy. A published journal article

written by scientists in the Department of Oriental Pharmaceutical

> Science at South Korea's Kyung Hee University found the aqueous extract of gou

teng may increase serotonin levels in the brain, resulting in

> mood and cognitive improvements, as well as help in the treatment of OCD, IBS,

fibromyalgia, depression and anxiety.

> Neem: This herb's anti-viral, anti bacterial and anti-fungal effects are well

documented. Evidence exists for its use in pneumonia, ulcers, gout,

> diabetes, hypertension, skin infection and wound healing. The essential fatty

acid content in Neem is high.

> Grapefruit Seed: Grapefruit seed is considered therapeutic against hundreds of

different bacteria, virus, parasite and fungal strains. The

> extract from the seeds helps inhibit intestinal infections while balancing

healthy bacteria. It is a strong antioxidant with high nutrient values,

> including biotin and Vitamin C. It also is helpful with lymphatic drainage and

elimination of toxins.

> Indian Sarsaparilla: This herb has its action on circulation, autoimmunity,

joint disease, digestive issues and viral infections. It is potentially

> most important as a rich nutrient and alkaloid source. For example, this

provides saponin, panillin, cetyl-alcohol, cobolt, pollinstanol selenium,

> smilagenin, stigmasterol, zinc and Beta and Epsilon-sitosterol.

> Poke Root: Poke root helps detox the lymphatic system. It stimulates

production of B and T immune cells and is active as an antiinflammatory,

> anti-viral and antibacterial agent. Rich in alkaloids that produce

antihistamine effects, it also increases the brain's production of

> GABA.

> Licorice: Licorice binds to many types of neurotoxins, making it important as

a detoxification agent. It contains mucogenic agents that soothe

> stomach and duodenal ulcers. It has been used in the treatment of chronic

fatigue syndrome, and may have antiviral effects.

> Garlic: Garlic functions as a broad-spectrum antimicrobial and metabolic

agent. It has historically been used as an anti-fungal, anti-bacterial,

> anti-spirochete, anti-septic, diaphoretic, diuretic, expectorant and heavy

metal chelator. It supports liver detoxification and decreases LDL

> cholesterol. It is a cardiovascular tonic, helps with the biosynthesis of

fatty acids and phospholipids, and acts as an anti-clotting agent.

> Clove: This herb acts as a tonic, febrifuge, antiseptic and anti-fungal with

anti-parasitic activity.

> Usnea: This herb is a broad-spectrum antimicrobial that affects viruses,

protozoa, Candida, trichamonas, Chlamydia and other microorganisms.

> It also is used as an analgesic and cyst buster.

> In a base of organic grape alcohol (40% by volume), filtered spring water

>

[Guest guest]

There is a Bartonella group you can ask questions of:

bartonella

deb

>

>

> I got prescribed Cumanda tincture from NutraMedix. 10drops 2x a day.

> I dont know how effective it is, and I dont know if I have Bartonella but

two things started happening since I started taking it about 3-4 wks ago. for

about 2 wks, ending late last week, whenever I would bend over and straighten

back up, I would get a big stabbing sharp pain in my head, very intense enough

to make me pause, close my eyes and wait for it to pass. the other new symptom

was blurry vision/seeing double. At the time I wondered if it was a herx

reaction or something related to eating sugar......but I've never had the head

pain following bending over before. blurry vision I have had.

>

> So is there any test or just symptoms to diagnose Bartonella?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, freeze dried garlic goes after bartonella.

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