Re: Knotweed and Estrogenic Properties

[Guest guest]

I just read the book Detoxify or Die and your post below about sensitivity to

estrogen made me think of one supplement mentioned in the book, called

Indolplex. According to the author, Sherry MD, she recommends this. Has

anyone tried it?

Per the manufacturer (Tyler):

Tyler Indolplex

A unique bioavalable formula of diindolylmethane, DIM, and indole phytonutrient

found in cruciferous vegetables shown to shift the balance of estradiol and

estrone promoting hormonal health - 60 caps

INDOLPLEX®

Bioavailable Diindolymethane

Indolplex contains diindolylmethane (DIM), a naturally occurring phytochemical

found in cruciferous vegetables. The patented form of DIM in Indolplex is 10

times more potent than its precursor, indole-3-carbinole (I3C).† I3C is highly

unstable and has no biologic activity until it is converted to DIM. Conversion

of I3C takes place in the stomach and requires an appropriately acidic

environment. In contrast to I3C, DIM is highly stable, requires no conversion in

the stomach, and is the most active cruciferous phytonutrient in promoting

beneficial estrogen metabolism.† The role of DIM in the body is to support

healthy estrogen metabolism and hormonal balance, two factors known to prevent

estrogen dominance. Caused by surges in estrogen and deficiencies in

progesterone, estrogen dominance frequently appears during a woman’s

reproductive years, the many years of perimenopause, and the onset of menopause.

deb

>

> I have endometriosis along with my 20+ years of Lyme (I think they are

> linked). I am unable to tolerate any estrogenic herbs or prescriptions

> that I have taken and am wondering if anyone has heard or had experience

> of how the Japanese Knotweed affected them?

>

> Also, I see on this site:

> http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/#knotweed

> They say that Buhner recommends the Paradise herbs Resveratrol...

> Doesn't he suggest taking the whole herb? Is this preparation the whole

> herb?

>

> Thanks!

> Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Jen...i have endometriosis also. I had many surgeries. I've communicated with

several Lyme patients with that issue. I think it's very possible they are

connected. I think that Buhner said on Planet Thrive that KW is not bad for

endo...however if someone is concerned they should take Stephania. I've been

taking KW for several months, not sure if it's effecting the endo???

> >

> > I have endometriosis along with my 20+ years of Lyme (I think they are

> > linked). I am unable to tolerate any estrogenic herbs or prescriptions

> > that I have taken and am wondering if anyone has heard or had experience

> > of how the Japanese Knotweed affected them?

> >

> > Also, I see on this site:

> > http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/#knotweed

> > They say that Buhner recommends the Paradise herbs Resveratrol...

> > Doesn't he suggest taking the whole herb? Is this preparation the whole

> > herb?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Jen

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I took DIM for several years after my lumpectomy for DCIS (pathological breast

cells - precursor to breast cancer, estrogen receptive). It is available as a

supplement by itself. I got it at Beyond A Century as a powder, very

inexpensive, but I'm sure its available in other forms from other providers. jo

> >

> > I have endometriosis along with my 20+ years of Lyme (I think they are

> > linked). I am unable to tolerate any estrogenic herbs or prescriptions

> > that I have taken and am wondering if anyone has heard or had experience

> > of how the Japanese Knotweed affected them?

> >

> > Also, I see on this site:

> > http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/#knotweed

> > They say that Buhner recommends the Paradise herbs Resveratrol...

> > Doesn't he suggest taking the whole herb? Is this preparation the whole

> > herb?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Jen

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response. I took an herb a while back and I think it's

sole purpose was to be a phytoestrogen so that's probably why it was so

bad... the ob/gyn meant well but was SO not well! My endo is bad but the

pain is not the bad part.. it creates tons of scar tissue and ovarian

cysts. My last endoscopy was really extensive (led to my daughter) and

it was strangling my appendix and had ruined one fallopian tube. I

definitely think it's related to the Lyme. I take a horrible pill

continuously (can't think of the name right now) to control heavy

bleeding and spotting all month... Fibroids are suspected but I don't

want surgery. I've heard of the supplement people are mentioning and

will consider that once I get the protocol going. I think I'll just go

ahead with the KW.

Thanks,

Jen

On 11/4/2010 12:27 PM, laceyinbh wrote:

>

> Jen...i have endometriosis also. I had many surgeries. I've

> communicated with several Lyme patients with that issue. I think it's

> very possible they are connected. I think that Buhner said on Planet

> Thrive that KW is not bad for endo...however if someone is concerned

> they should take Stephania. I've been taking KW for several months,

> not sure if it's effecting the endo???

>

[Guest guest]

Have you ever tried bio-identical progesterone. I believe it's suppose to help

with endometriosis. I had it when I was young and ended up with a hysterectomy.

I don't know if we even had progesterone cream back then. But, I know it really

helps me now.

Connie

Re: [ ] Re: Knotweed and Estrogenic Properties

Thanks for the response. I took an herb a while back and I think it's

sole purpose was to be a phytoestrogen so that's probably why it was so

bad... the ob/gyn meant well but was SO not well! My endo is bad but the

pain is not the bad part.. it creates tons of scar tissue and ovarian

cysts. My last endoscopy was really extensive (led to my daughter) and

it was strangling my appendix and had ruined one fallopian tube. I

definitely think it's related to the Lyme. I take a horrible pill

continuously (can't think of the name right now) to control heavy

bleeding and spotting all month... Fibroids are suspected but I don't

want surgery. I've heard of the supplement people are mentioning and

will consider that once I get the protocol going. I think I'll just go

ahead with the KW.

[Guest guest]

Another thought I had this morning as I was reading your post. Is excess

estrogen the problem (I never had endo and at this advanced age, 66, I've

forgotten a lot about younger women's issues. But if excess estrogen is the

problem, calicum-d-glucarate can help. It attaches to estrogen and escorts it

out of the body. I used it at the end of menopause. Without it I would have

continued to menstruate well into mid 50's. As it was I stopped at 54, and that

was with the help of calcium-d-glucarate. Best of luck, jo

> >

> > Jen...i have endometriosis also. I had many surgeries. I've

> > communicated with several Lyme patients with that issue. I think it's

> > very possible they are connected. I think that Buhner said on Planet

> > Thrive that KW is not bad for endo...however if someone is concerned

> > they should take Stephania. I've been taking KW for several months,

> > not sure if it's effecting the endo???

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie... Yes, I tried the bioidentical progesterone but I was still

a disaster. I was hoping that would be enough but I had to go ahead with

the prescription... I'm just so estrogen dominant it's ridiculous. It's

hard not to wish for menopause but I know there are negatives in

anything. I just need to heal my system and get things in balance!!

Jen

Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie

On 11/5/2010 11:25 PM, Connie Blaze wrote:

>

> Have you ever tried bio-identical progesterone. I believe it's suppose

> to help with endometriosis. I had it when I was young and ended up

> with a hysterectomy. I don't know if we even had progesterone cream

> back then. But, I know it really helps me now.

>

> Connie

>

[Guest guest]

Jo... That's very interesting!! I will definitely check that out. Thank

you so much for sharing. Too much estrogen is definitely the problem.

Jen

Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie

On 11/7/2010 1:15 PM, judyjo27 wrote:

>

> Another thought I had this morning as I was reading your post. Is

> excess estrogen the problem (I never had endo and at this advanced

> age, 66, I've forgotten a lot about younger women's issues. But if

> excess estrogen is the problem, calicum-d-glucarate can help. It

> attaches to estrogen and escorts it out of the body. I used it at the

> end of menopause. Without it I would have continued to menstruate well

> into mid 50's. As it was I stopped at 54, and that was with the help

> of calcium-d-glucarate. Best of luck, jo

>

[Guest guest]

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I'm sorry bio-identical progesterone isn't working.

I've been lucky to be able to use some otc and some extra-strength prescription

stuff. the prescription stuff is a HUGE help.

Re: [ ] Re: Knotweed and Estrogenic Properties

Hi Connie... Yes, I tried the bioidentical progesterone but I was still

a disaster. I was hoping that would be enough but I had to go ahead with

the prescription... I'm just so estrogen dominant it's ridiculous. It's

hard not to wish for menopause but I know there are negatives in

anything. I just need to heal my system and get things in balance!!

Jen

Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie

On 11/5/2010 11:25 PM, Connie Blaze wrote:

>

> Have you ever tried bio-identical progesterone. I believe it's suppose

> to help with endometriosis. I had it when I was young and ended up

> with a hysterectomy. I don't know if we even had progesterone cream

> back then. But, I know it really helps me now.

>

> Connie

>

[Guest guest]

On 11/8/2010 10:55 AM, kmanguish@... wrote:

>

> -

> I'm sorry bio-identical progesterone isn't working.

> I've been lucky to be able to use some otc and some extra-strength

> prescription stuff. the prescription stuff is a HUGE help.

>

The prescription continuous birth control pill has kept my symptoms at

bay although I dont' know what is going on internally. So far not much

indication of a problem. The pill I use has same dangers though and I'd

love to stop taking it eventually!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Jen, ichinese has the whole knotweed herb as well as milk thistle and

dandelion used for detoxing. They also have the pill trays for making your

own capsules.

I ran out and that's what I will be doing this weekend!

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 12:41 PM

Subject: [ ] Knotweed and Estrogenic Properties

I have endometriosis along with my 20+ years of Lyme (I think they are

linked). I am unable to tolerate any estrogenic herbs or prescriptions

that I have taken and am wondering if anyone has heard or had experience

of how the Japanese Knotweed affected them?

Also, I see on this site:

http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/#knotweed

They say that Buhner recommends the Paradise herbs Resveratrol...

Doesn't he suggest taking the whole herb? Is this preparation the whole

herb?

Thanks!

Jen