Re: colony found in toilet

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Hi,

Nope mine were " snake like/corkscrew like " , about 1/2 " long brown rust in color

and then there was another kind that was like dashes kind of like (--------) but

two were always together. I posted the picture, but if you are on a smartphone

you won't see them. On the Lyme Aid Buhner group website, there are two

photos of what I found. It's under photos... On the left hand side and click on

photos, then Jeannie's pics. Mine didn't look like a meat worm. That's what

that sounds like to me (but I'm new to this too)..

I also put my specimens in a urine container I got from my LLMD and then put

them in alcohol. The first one I put on a wet paper towel then a zip lock, to

take to the doc then onto the lab.

Glad your looking

Jeannie

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

What you found doesn't sound like a tapeworm. A tapeworm is flat. Its body has

segments. Each segment can grow into a new worm if broken off, even without the

head (scolex).

Are you taking something to kill worms?

deb

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16 yrs and Fibro/CFS for my dx. Ugh!!! Doctors!!! It was Lyme all along.

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> > well ... we may know soon if it was (just ...) Lyme. Seems to me there is

another problem, at least if you stick to the official definition of LD as being

a Borrelia burgdoferi sl infection.

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> > I hope all these troubles gets you a bit further in finding out what is

wrong, and finding a treatment that works.

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Hi All,

What a facinating discussion this is!!

I think I am gonna get some walnut tincture.

I totally agree with you Knotweed that perhaps the Bb is not the major culprit

and that some other critter is causing most of our problems and thats why we

aren't getting cured with treatment.

It's true the lymephotos website is more than a little confusing. When I first

came across it a couple yrs ago I totally disregarded it but after looking at

Jeannie's and my friends photos I checked it out again to try to understand it.

And Jeannie... LMAO....you cracked me up about using a shishkabob stick....cuz I

did the exact same thing after reading your first post, even used one of them

wooden skewers too lol. Is this another symptom of LD or what lol? Thx for

posting the new photo!

Kkhlavinka, can you post a photo or two of your critters?

About the babesia issue, I was tested for babesia by Igenex and had a negative

result however I have all the classic babesia symptoms and have seen some sort

of parasite that reesembles babesia inside my red blood cells. (I have a high

powered phase-contrast microscope that I use to check my blood) Furthermore

these symptoms have gotten better when I take artemisia annua therefore I don't

believe that the babesia testing is very accurate.

In my case the babesia symptoms intensified after I used the biofilm buster meds

but thats probably because babesia exist within these biofilm colonies...so that

means that when we open these biofilms we are letting out all the different

bacteria and parasites into our blood and need to treat for them at the same

time.

Take Care,

Chris

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> In my case the babesia symptoms intensified after I used the biofilm buster

meds but thats probably because babesia exist within these biofilm colonies...so

that means that when we open these biofilms we are letting out all the different

bacteria and parasites into our blood and need to treat for them at the same

time.

The biofilm buster part does not make much sense to me: if they normally live

inside the bloodcells it isn't likely that they also live in good numbers in

biofilms (because those environments are very different). If you are stirring

things up with the buster meds, I'm guessing it is another parasite.

From the IOM video you can only conclude that most of the coinfection testing is

VERY unreliable, and that probably many species escape detection (or otherwise,

many are detected despite being harmless).

[Guest guest]

Hi

...I also used the wood skewers! LMAO. You have to get creative in such a

situation, and keep a good sense of humor.

...The look on the people (family) close to me when they have seen these photos

is priceless. Another thing that has happened is that NOW they believe for the

first time in 16 yrs that I'm " really " dealing with something, that I'm really

sick. We have an invisible illness to those who aren't around us 24/7.

Thanks for your comments, didn't see it till late last night, was cracking up.

It's nice to giggle once in a while.

Have a good one,

Jeannie

And Jeannie... LMAO....you cracked me up about using a shishkabob stick....cuz I

did the exact same thing after reading your first post, even used one of them

wooden skewers too lol. Is this another symptom of LD or what lol? Thx for

posting the new photo!

[Guest guest]

What biofilm busters are you using?

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[Guest guest]

" The biofilm buster part does not make much sense to me: if they normally live

inside the bloodcells it isn't likely that they also live in good numbers in

biofilms "

Knotweed, you always make me work so hard lol.

I have some research articles somewhere, searched but cant find them right now

however here is a web link to a power point presentation by Dr Alan Mc (my

hero lol):

http://www.sunbowfarm.org/pdfs/Biofilm_New_Haven_ppt_Read-Only_.pdf

On page 4 he says " Biofilms may contain different species of pathogens. For

example Borrelia and Babesia.Or other multiorganism combinations. "

It is true that babesia live in the RBCs but they have to travel outside of the

RBC in order to get to the next one to infect it. I have videos of this

happening in my own blood.

Take care,

Chris

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> On page 4 he says " Biofilms may contain different species of pathogens. For

example Borrelia and Babesia.Or other multiorganism combinations. "

I'm guessing that he did not really find Babesia there, and is just speculating.

Biofilms are almost by definition multiorganism combinations (they can have over

a hundred different species) but again, Babesia seems very unlikely to me if it

prefers the inside of blood cells. If Babs is found in biofilms I'm pretty sure

it must be another Babs species or some alternate form, not the normal one.