Re: colony found in toilet

[Guest guest]

>keep me informed

Will do!!

> One can expect 'worm' problems with lymies,

Maybe we all need to start monitoring our BMs lol.

Eva Sapi PhD and Lyme researcher seems to believe that filarial coinfections may

be a distinct possibility with LD. Apparently Dr. Burgdorfori observed 30

microfilariol nematodes in one tick while researching LD. Eww and crap!! I don't

want to have nematode infection too!! It's more than enough for me to deal with

the other ones.

> Btw, ivermectin is similar to andrographis in that it targets many worm-like

creatures from small to relavitely big, and also seems to work against the

arthropods themselves. It is based on a natural (bacterial) product.

Interesting!!

Eva Sapi also says that ivermectin has been successfully used in Europe to

erradicate hard to treat cases of LD...interesting stuff!!

http://www.lyme.no/gjesteskribent/eva-sapi-ph-d

I knew I saw photos similar to these that have been posted. Here is the site I

saw them on:

http://www.lymephotos.com/index.shtml

This site is a little confusing but after some speculation on my part I believe

that all the photos on this site are of one particular nematode even though the

headings would make it appear otherwise. Each of these photos show basically the

same structure even tho they are listed under different headings such as babesia

or borrelia furthermore both borrelia and babesia are not close to being visible

with the naked eye whereas these samples are.

BTW these folks are saying that they started seeing these critters when they

started the salt/c protocol. There must be somehing about this protocol....

Take Care,

Chris

[Guest guest]

>

> Eva Sapi PhD and Lyme researcher seems to believe that filarial coinfections

may be a distinct possibility with LD. Apparently Dr. Burgdorfori observed 30

microfilariol nematodes in one tick while researching LD. Eww and crap!! I don't

want to have nematode infection too!! It's more than enough for me to deal with

the other ones.

in some of the online lyme blood microscopy videos there are creatures that are

probably microfilaria, as they are way too big for a spirochete.

> Interesting!!

> Eva Sapi also says that ivermectin has been successfully used in Europe to

erradicate hard to treat cases of LD...interesting stuff!!

> http://www.lyme.no/gjesteskribent/eva-sapi-ph-d

My guess is that ivermectin somehow works against the microtubuli bundle

(flagel) that powers spirochetes and many bigger snake-like creatures (certain

nerve and muscle fibers have the same structure, and some scientists think it is

evolutionary related to spirochetes).

> I knew I saw photos similar to these that have been posted. Here is the site I

saw them on:

> http://www.lymephotos.com/index.shtml

very confusing website (e.g. the suggestion that the pictures are Borrelia,

Babesia etc. - they definitely are something completely different). I also don't

like that they suggest people should try this protocol for years and not use

anything else ...

[Guest guest]

>

> Eva Sapi PhD and Lyme researcher seems to believe that filarial

coinfections may be a distinct possibility with LD. Apparently Dr.

Burgdorfori observed 30 microfilariol nematodes in one tick while

researching LD. Eww and crap!! I don't want to have nematode infection

too!! It's more than enough for me to deal with the other ones.

****i've heard black walnut hull tincture is good for this.

~dory

[Guest guest]

Here's another website found by my friend about filariasis and LD:

http://www.empirestatelymediseaseassociation.org/filaria/filariasis.htm

Chris

[Guest guest]

How do you know it is a 'colony'?

>

> Hi,

>

> I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst all

the other stuff.

>

> This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked under a

strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

>

> How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

>

> Thanks ahead of time,

> Jeannie

>

[Guest guest]

How much vit c are you up to? and how much salt?

>

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst

> > all the other stuff.

> >

> > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked under

> > a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> >

> > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> >

> > Thanks ahead of time,

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm so happy you are getting some results. How often do you take 3/4 tea

of each? Also so you put the salt in capsules, or put it into the C solution?

I don't know why they can't go in the solution together.

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol

> > > amongst all the other stuff.

> > >

> > > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!!

> > OMG... Looked

> > > under a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> > >

> > > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> > >

> > > Thanks ahead of time,

> > > Jeannie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ma Huang, you say you saw pictures of these colonies on a youtube video called

" Got Oil " ???

>

> I had a couple of colonies expelled from urine immediately after beginning

> salt/c and I was on the lowest dose (1gm:1gm).

>

> I only knew what they were because I had seen them on youtube.

>  Got oil? 

> www.crudethemovie.com

>

> www.H2oildoc.com

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Here's another website found by my friend about filariasis and LD:

>

> http://www.empirestatelymediseaseassociation.org/filaria/filariasis.htm

that looks like a more solid site than lymephotos. One of the descriptions

sounds like Morgellon's, could it be related?

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Sorry I haven't been on, I have been really sick the last three days as in lots

of pain in my feet, spine and hands. Thank you tinbkrbl, Deb 57 and knotweed.

There are two photos I posted on this forum. I'm on my blackberry and in bed,

but if you check out the photos you'll see that there are (I sort of counted)

about a dozen worms in a clump. Kind of a cyst like.

I also found a week ago a sack the size of a dime. Looked like an egg sack.

All of these are at the lab now and I should know by week's end what the heck

they were.

I know it (sounds gross) but, I look at my BM ... Dr Oz got me to doing that,

when I looked in there I thought I saw something that wasn't supposed to be

there, so I used shishcabob (sp?) stick to " stir " and see what floated up. Real

scientific!

That was right around the time of the full moon and then nothing. So maybe I

just get rid of these things then. I'll see next full moon.

All I know is that my LLMD was surprised, and all he could say is, " that's

wild! " . I have been having sharp pains in my head, eyes and heart.

A week ago I ended up in the ER of a University Hospital in Sacramento with

chest pains (happened last year too). I have now Lyme Carditis great!

Nematodes, or whatever else they are, I'm hoping for some answers later this

week. I'll try posting the egg sack pic today, but it takes a couple of days to

post. I started a journal as well, symptoms, pain level, what I'm taking etc.

IMHO I'm just a newbie trying to figure it all out still, being sick over 16 yrs

and Fibro/CFS for my dx. Ugh!!! Doctors!!! It was Lyme all along.

Blessings,

Jeannie

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

How do you know it is a 'colony'?

>

> Hi,

>

> I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol amongst all

the other stuff.

>

> This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!! OMG... Looked under a

strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

>

> How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

>

> Thanks ahead of time,

> Jeannie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Barb,

I have upped it a bit... I take 3/4 tsp of coarse sea salt and 3/4 tsp of

powdered vitamin C and drink the lukewarm solution throughout the day along with

another glass of water, so that I'm always " pickling " myself and then hydrating.

Going to buy Hymalyan (sp?) Salt, ran out of money til Friday. I drink 8

glasses of water every day and two or three with the solution spread out during

the day. Morning, noon, night. That's what worked for me.

Hope that helps,

Jeannie

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

I'm so happy you are getting some results. How often do you take 3/4 tea

of each? Also so you put the salt in capsules, or put it into the C solution?

I don't know why they can't go in the solution together.

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I know it sounds gross, but I have been doing the salt/c protocol

> > > amongst all the other stuff.

> > >

> > > This morning I found a colony floating in the toilet!!!

> > OMG... Looked

> > > under a strong magnifying glass I could see all of it.

> > >

> > > How do I preserve this specimen for my LLMD. Amazing!

> > >

> > > Thanks ahead of time,

> > > Jeannie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> IMHO I'm just a newbie trying to figure it all out still, being sick over 16

yrs and Fibro/CFS for my dx. Ugh!!! Doctors!!! It was Lyme all along.

well ... we may know soon if it was (just ...) Lyme. Seems to me there is

another problem, at least if you stick to the official definition of LD as being

a Borrelia burgdoferi sl infection.

I hope all these troubles gets you a bit further in finding out what is wrong,

and finding a treatment that works.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Barb,

>

> I have upped it a bit... I take 3/4 tsp of coarse sea salt and 3/4 tsp of

powdered vitamin C and drink the lukewarm solution throughout the day along with

another glass of water,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding because of my limited grasp of english, but do you

mean you use 3/4 tsp Salt and 3/4 tsp of VitC per day? Just trying to follow

what you are doing ... Did you ever check how much (grams) one tsp of these is?

[Guest guest]

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> IMHO I'm just a newbie trying to figure it all out still, being sick over 16

yrs and Fibro/CFS for my dx. Ugh!!! Doctors!!! It was Lyme all along.

well ... we may know soon if it was (just ...) Lyme. Seems to me there is

another problem, at least if you stick to the official definition of LD as being

a Borrelia burgdoferi sl infection.

I hope all these troubles gets you a bit further in finding out what is wrong,

and finding a treatment that works.

[Guest guest]

Yes Knotweed I have and I can take up to about 15 grams a day and I'm not taking

that much yet, it'll take me a month or two to increase if that is what I end up

doing. I don't look at my critters as troubles, just things that are

challenging me.

Whatever I am doing I have researched as much as I physically can. I know that

a lot of people put down (the salt/C) protocol and usually when they aren't on

it but it's working for me. I haven't had a fever in about a month, that is

nice in itself.

And Knotweed, I don't think you have an issue with a limited grasp of english,

you are very articulate and intelligent.

Thanks for your comment.

Jeannie

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> Hi Barb,

>

> I have upped it a bit... I take 3/4 tsp of coarse sea salt and 3/4 tsp of

powdered vitamin C and drink the lukewarm solution throughout the day along with

another glass of water,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding because of my limited grasp of english, but do you

mean you use 3/4 tsp Salt and 3/4 tsp of VitC per day? Just trying to follow

what you are doing ... Did you ever check how much (grams) one tsp of these is?

[Guest guest]

Knotweed,

I figure it's all Lyme because as I have read on this forum.... That Dr.

Burgdorfer found Nematodes along with the spirochetes. To me IMHO, it seems

like there is more in the tick gut then spirochetes and co-infections. But as

you said soon we will know. Thank you for your concern.

Thanks for your comment,

Jeannie

[ ] Re: colony found in toilet

>

> IMHO I'm just a newbie trying to figure it all out still, being sick over 16

yrs and Fibro/CFS for my dx. Ugh!!! Doctors!!! It was Lyme all along.

well ... we may know soon if it was (just ...) Lyme. Seems to me there is

another problem, at least if you stick to the official definition of LD as being

a Borrelia burgdoferi sl infection.

I hope all these troubles gets you a bit further in finding out what is wrong,

and finding a treatment that works.

[Guest guest]

I bought the Salt C protocol book but haven't had time to read it and don't want

to miss a post here.  Anyway, I just want to make clear from your post that you

do *not* put your salt in a capsule, but mix it into a solution with C.  I could

put the salt in capsule but if I can take the solution w the sea salt in it, I'd

rather skip the extra step of putting them in capsules.  Sipping it all day is

okay rather than gulping it down? , or at least that has worked for you?  Thanks

i Barb,

I have upped it a bit... I take 3/4 tsp of coarse sea salt and 3/4 tsp of

powdered vitamin C and drink the lukewarm solution throughout the day along with

another glass of water, so that I'm always " pickling " myself and then hydrating.

Going to buy Hymalyan (sp?) Salt, ran out of money til Friday. I drink 8 glasses

of water every day and two or three with the solution spread out during the day.

Morning, noon, night. That's what worked for me.

Hope that helps,

Jeannie

[Guest guest]

Could be Babesia. My heart stuff has been decreasing since I started treating

for Babesia. First I was taking Artesminisin (wormwood). Now I'm taking A-BAB.

Connie

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

A week ago I ended up in the ER of a University Hospital in Sacramento with

chest pains (happened last year too). I have now Lyme Carditis great!

[Guest guest]

Connie,

I have tested positive for co-infection Ehrlichia. Could it be that my LLMD

missed the possibility of Babesia? Should I bring this up at my next

appointment?

I want to say that I grew up in the Basque Pyrenees mountains as a sheep

herder's daughter. I helped raise the lambs when their mother's died, we lived

in the country and I was wondering if that strain might be something they (drs

diagnosing) are missing. This was around 1963. Any thoughts? Hmmm, think I

should research that.

Jeannie

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

A week ago I ended up in the ER of a University Hospital in Sacramento with

chest pains (happened last year too). I have now Lyme Carditis great!

[Guest guest]

Hello. I am newly diagnosed with LD althouth it appears I have had it since I

was about 19 and am now 55. My only know co-infections are two kinds of

mycosin. Have had most of the usual problems starting with flu-like sypmptoms,

joint and muscle pain, extreme tiredness. Seems my critters like my pituitary

gland the most which has caused adrenal, thyroid, female hormonal and other

pituitary-related malfunctions.

After reading your posts on the colony, I did a little check in the bowl this

afternoon and saw some white thread-like things in my poop and floating in the

water and they appear to be dead, assuming they are some kind of critter. They

are about 3/8 of an inch, similar to tape worms.

Is this like what you saw? I could not find the photos referenced.

Thanks.

> >

> > IMHO I'm just a newbie trying to figure it all out still, being sick over 16

yrs and Fibro/CFS for my dx. Ugh!!! Doctors!!! It was Lyme all along.

>

>

> well ... we may know soon if it was (just ...) Lyme. Seems to me there is

another problem, at least if you stick to the official definition of LD as being

a Borrelia burgdoferi sl infection.

>

> I hope all these troubles gets you a bit further in finding out what is wrong,

and finding a treatment that works.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I put my 3/4 tsp sea salt and 3/4 tsp of powdered vitamin C in a big coffee mug

then add the cold water, then the hot water from my bottled water - not from the

tap. No capsules.

I feel better spreading it out throughout the day, because I feel like it's in

my system on a consistent basis. But I also drink plenty of liquids with at

least 8 full glasses of bottled water a day. I drink this solution 2 to 3 times

a day. Depending on the whether I'm constipated or not, if I am I will have

three glasses.

Hope this helps,

Jeannie

I bought the Salt C protocol book but haven't had time to read it and don't want

to miss a post here.  Anyway, I just want to make clear from your post that you

do *not* put your salt in a capsule, but mix it into a solution with C.  I could

put the salt in capsule but if I can take the solution w the sea salt in it, I'd

rather skip the extra step of putting them in capsules.  Sipping it all day is

okay rather than gulping it down? , or at least that has worked for you?  Thanks

[Guest guest]

I tested negative for Babesia, but from my symptom picture my LLND says I have a

heavy load of Babesia infection. The Babesia test is very inaccurate.

Connie

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

Could be Babesia. My heart stuff has been decreasing since I started treating

for Babesia. First I was taking Artesminisin (wormwood). Now I'm taking A-BAB.

Connie

[Guest guest]

>

> Knotweed,

>

> I figure it's all Lyme because as I have read on this forum.... That Dr.

Burgdorfer found Nematodes along with the spirochetes. To me IMHO, it seems

like there is more in the tick gut then spirochetes and co-infections. But as

you said soon we will know. Thank you for your concern.

my remark was meant a bit TIC ... I don't doubt there are other, unknown or ill

known, tick infections. The problem is just the official definition of LD that

excludes everything except Bb sl infection. So docs don't look for it.

I would not be surprised if ultimately we find out that Bb sl is not the real

problem, but something else is (most like something we are not looking for yet,

probably something small); and that Bb is just a 'coinfection' that is often

relatively benign.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Connie

Re: [ ] Re: colony found in toilet

Could be Babesia. My heart stuff has been decreasing since I started treating

for Babesia. First I was taking Artesminisin (wormwood). Now I'm taking A-BAB.

Connie

[Guest guest]

What you found doesn't sound like a tapeworm. A tapeworm is flat. Its body has

segments. Each segment can grow into a new worm if broken off, even without the

head (scolex).

Are you taking something to kill worms?

deb

> > >

> > > IMHO I'm just a newbie trying to figure it all out still, being sick over

16 yrs and Fibro/CFS for my dx. Ugh!!! Doctors!!! It was Lyme all along.

> >

> >

> > well ... we may know soon if it was (just ...) Lyme. Seems to me there is

another problem, at least if you stick to the official definition of LD as being

a Borrelia burgdoferi sl infection.

> >

> > I hope all these troubles gets you a bit further in finding out what is

wrong, and finding a treatment that works.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >