Re: Child with tick inbedded in his neck

[Guest guest]

>

>so she went to another Doc this morning who is going to give her son a two week

course of amoxcillian. Is this the right drug?

yes. this is the usual drug for children. Dose is important as well.

> Should it be a longer course? What lab should she get him tested through in a

couple of weeks?

testing is of little value if you have used ABX. You need about two months after

an ABX test before you can do a reliable serologic (blood) test. Also, normal

blood testing is of no use in the first weeks after finding the tick. You could

use PCR testing at an earlier time, but I have the impression that a good

Borrelia PCR test is very difficult to get in the US.

Personally I'm not in favour of using ABX without any sign of infection, and

would only use them if there are clear clinical symptoms of Borrelia infection

(like EM, fevers, other unusual symptoms). If you are sure the tick has been

feeding for a long time, like more than a day, that could be an extra reason to

use ABX.

> I have been told I have lymphoma, hep c, sarcoid, scleroderma etc. and seen

more physicians than one would think is humanly possible. I have been tossed

around from sub speciality to sub speciality (due to multi organ involvement and

I have yet to get any relief or answers.

unfortunately this is normal. The average chronic lyme patient sees an average

of ten specialists or so before getting the right diagnosis; it's the same story

over here in Europe. Of course this also means many patients will never know

they have Lyme and never get rid of it.

> So, if anyone has any extra time and can help me understand how to start

introducing herbs, etc, I have very little knowledge of the homeopath approach

and my mind is so foggy lately,

Before starting the Buhner herbs: buy and read the book! There are some updates

on the basic protocol that you can find on Buhners website and on hise

Planet Health pages. You don't need to read everything, but there is lots of

important info in the book; it is good to have it at hand when there are

unexpected events.

You can combine the Buhner herbs with ABX; just start out slowly.

If you are really 'foggy', have someone help you with choosing/buying the herbs

and taking the right dose.

[Guest guest]

Hi - your friend can go to www.lymenet.org, sign up there, and make a post

in the SeekingADoctor section, also listing the state in the heading and people

will send her LLMD referrals immediately. You could also sign up there and make

a post in Medical Questions and get some feedback on your questions. - Robin

[ ] Child with tick inbedded in his neck

Hi,

I am new to the group, I have had lyme for over ten years,with possible

reinfection last year (according to id doc) and I have so many questions to ask

this group myself that I have been overwhelmed with where to start. However,

this is an urgent matter. My best friend found a tick inbedded in her eleven

year old son's neck last night. SHe brought him to her pedi and he said he would

not give antibiotics, so she went to another Doc this morning who is going to

give her son a two week course of amoxcillian. Is this the right drug? Should it

be a longer course? What lab should she get him tested through in a couple of

weeks? We are in the Boston area? Does anyone have some other tips to help him

avoid the curse of LYme disease?

Thank you in advance to all of you! I would also like to add that since I joined

this group a couple weeks ago, I have felt less alone in the isolation of this

disease. I have been told I have lymphoma, hep c, sarcoid, scleroderma etc. and

seen more physicians than one would think is humanly possible. I have been

tossed around from sub speciality to sub speciality (due to multi organ

involvement and I have yet to get any relief or answers. I have taking

ceftriaxone for four months, doxi, dr. donta's protocol with biaxin and malaria

drug and I am still so sick. So, if anyone has any extra time and can help me

understand how to start introducing herbs, etc, I have very little knowledge of

the homeopath approach and my mind is so foggy lately, To the other Dory, my

family calls me that too Thanks and good health to all~

[Guest guest]

i have heard that if you save the tick you can send it to www.igenex.com and

they will test it for lyme. do not know if a fee is involved.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, erquinn <erinshannon4@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi,

> I am new to the group, I have had lyme for over ten years,with possible

> reinfection last year (according to id doc) and I have so many questions to

> ask this group myself that I have been overwhelmed with where to start.

> However, this is an urgent matter. My best friend found a tick inbedded in

> her eleven year old son's neck last night. SHe brought him to her pedi and

> he said he would not give antibiotics, so she went to another Doc this

> morning who is going to give her son a two week course of amoxcillian. Is

> this the right drug? Should it be a longer course? What lab should she get

> him tested through in a couple of weeks? We are in the Boston area? Does

> anyone have some other tips to help him avoid the curse of LYme disease?

> Thank you in advance to all of you! I would also like to add that since I

> joined this group a couple weeks ago, I have felt less alone in the

> isolation of this disease. I have been told I have lymphoma, hep c, sarcoid,

> scleroderma etc. and seen more physicians than one would think is humanly

> possible. I have been tossed around from sub speciality to sub speciality

> (due to multi organ involvement and I have yet to get any relief or answers.

> I have taking ceftriaxone for four months, doxi, dr. donta's protocol with

> biaxin and malaria drug and I am still so sick. So, if anyone has any extra

> time and can help me understand how to start introducing herbs, etc, I have

> very little knowledge of the homeopath approach and my mind is so foggy

> lately, To the other Dory, my family calls me that too Thanks and good

> health to all~

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> i have heard that if you save the tick you can send it to www.igenex.com and

> they will test it for lyme. do not know if a fee is involved.

it is possible, but such a test has limited value. Even if the tick has Bb

infection, you don't know if you have been infected because statistically, that

takes a long time.

And in some countries like my own, tick Bb infecton rates are so high in certain

areas (like 20-40%) that even if the tick you test does not have Bb, you might

have overlooked another one that probably was infected. Better to assume all of

them are infected in such a case.

Another issue is that recent research shows that some of the tick tests only

detect a certain minimum amount of Borrelia in the tick, e.g. when there are at

least 10 or 100 of them. But just one Bb is enough to get infected, and if the

number was relatively low to begin with and the tick has been feeding for a long

time, most of the Bb may have moved from the tick to the patient and escape

detection in the tick test.

[Guest guest]

I am going to disagree on not doing abx. I live in the Boston area and

depending on where you live the rates of infection can be very, very high. When

we found an embedded tick on my daughter we did 6 weeks of abx. The doctor

wasn't happy but I brought him the Burascano protocol & he allowed for 6 weeks.

If you or your friend is interested, I compiled a list of lyme friendly doctors

(not all MDs) in the Boston area. I'd be happy to forward it to you. Just send

me a private email.

Carren

> >

> >so she went to another Doc this morning who is going to give her son a two

week course of amoxcillian. Is this the right drug?

>

> yes. this is the usual drug for children. Dose is important as well.

>

> > Should it be a longer course? What lab should she get him tested through in

a couple of weeks?

>

> testing is of little value if you have used ABX. You need about two months

after an ABX test before you can do a reliable serologic (blood) test. Also,

normal blood testing is of no use in the first weeks after finding the tick. You

could use PCR testing at an earlier time, but I have the impression that a good

Borrelia PCR test is very difficult to get in the US.

>

> Personally I'm not in favour of using ABX without any sign of infection, and

would only use them if there are clear clinical symptoms of Borrelia infection

(like EM, fevers, other unusual symptoms). If you are sure the tick has been

feeding for a long time, like more than a day, that could be an extra reason to

use ABX.

>

>

> > I have been told I have lymphoma, hep c, sarcoid, scleroderma etc. and seen

more physicians than one would think is humanly possible. I have been tossed

around from sub speciality to sub speciality (due to multi organ involvement and

I have yet to get any relief or answers.

>

> unfortunately this is normal. The average chronic lyme patient sees an average

of ten specialists or so before getting the right diagnosis; it's the same story

over here in Europe. Of course this also means many patients will never know

they have Lyme and never get rid of it.

>

>

> > So, if anyone has any extra time and can help me understand how to start

introducing herbs, etc, I have very little knowledge of the homeopath approach

and my mind is so foggy lately,

>

> Before starting the Buhner herbs: buy and read the book! There are some

updates on the basic protocol that you can find on Buhners website and

on hise Planet Health pages. You don't need to read everything, but there is

lots of important info in the book; it is good to have it at hand when there are

unexpected events.

>

> You can combine the Buhner herbs with ABX; just start out slowly.

> If you are really 'foggy', have someone help you with choosing/buying the

herbs and taking the right dose.

>