RE: Re: biofilm/herx

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Since starting oral antibiotics 8 months ago: Doxycycline 1 month, 3 months

amoxicillin, 2 months Zithromax (1 month paired with mepron, the other with

Ceftin), and now one month with Ceftin & Biaxin, I started to see a pattern of

feeling much worse symptoms around the beginning of third week of each monthly

antibiotic cycle that lasts up to a week. Has anyone had a similar experience?

Perhaps more of the spirochetes (in my case) are vulnerable at that time. I

hear they have a 3-4 week reproductive cycle. I think the Biaxin is helping a

little, certainly for me better than Zithromax. Perhaps different strains of

borrelia respond differently to antibiotics. I did notice quite an improvement

with Amoxicllin and then plateaued.

I have a lot of confidence in the LLMD practice I'm with (20 yrs experience

treating, founding member of ILADS & involved in research) They think it's time

for me to begin IV treatment. I am quite concerned about having a major herx

reaction on IVs because more of the antibiotics penetrate deeper into tissues

and also into the brain. The nurse reassured me that because I will have had 3

months of oral Ceftin when I switch to Rocephin I shouldn't have a big herx.

She joked that many patients don't want to come off IVs when they are told it's

time because they feel so good and are afraid of relapsing. Well time will

tell.

I have Buhner's book and all the essential herbs. I'm not comfortable taking

them without supervision (there is an naturopath 45 miles away who uses Buhner's

protocol) while on antibiotics. My LLMD is OK with herbs, but wants to know

which ones, because some are hard on the liver when taking antibiotics. For

example, no colloidal silver during abx treatment.

Kim

[ ] Re: biofilm

Also, just adding two things. After Herx reactions, I also noticed that my urine

smelt very differently. I speak to that to my MD, he said it was drugs

concentration, but I'm not sure, since it arrives just after herxing. Also, I

speak to that to a professional Lyme doctor, and he was not surprised.

I also remember something. On a forum, in France, one spoke about a test in a US

hospital to detect herx reactions just after antibiotics (something on the skin,

I remember). Is anyone aware of that? I asked for detecting herx reactions in a

French hospital, since I was very bad under antibiotics, I was just said that it

could be detected by looking at particular cytokines, but it is routinely done.

I once read something about syphillis herx reactions that affects white cells

counts (oesinophil), but I was said it was different from Lyme reactions, and

not two people had the same flutuations in white counts during an herx.

Philippe

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> I have been reading some of the posts here and there about biofilms, including

this link to the article below.

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http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2009/09/cure-for-inflammatory-diseases.h\

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> Last Friday I added teasel and Cat's Claw to my killing protocol of CS, rife,

and GSE. Since Sunday, I have been suffering from diarrhea. I don't know if

this is a good thing. Does it mean intestinal biofilms may be sloughing off?

Maybe this is my body's way of getting rid of toxins? I have also been

exercising and taking 15 min steams (since I don't have access to a sauna).

Maybe I am too toxic and this is my body's way of dealing with it? (My lyme

symptoms definitely have affected my GI system, and I have become gluten

intolerant as a result.)

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> Does anyone have any experience specifically treating biofilms (a number of

supplements claim to do this as well as the article's mention of apple pectin,

apple cider vinegar, fermented foods, etc.) and would diarrhea be a symptom of

success?

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> deb

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Is anyone cycling at about 4 weeks? It seems I have about 30 day cycles

where 3-4 are the worst symptoms - severe headaches, extreme fatigue, mood

low and general malaise.

Anyone getting big cycle swings? Are you doing anything special before hand?

Detoxing different?

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of knot_weed

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:47 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: biofilm/herx

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Believe me or not, I have cycle according to the full moon, even if being

not a vampire!

I have heard that more often (also for many other illness) but I'm pretty

sure in most cases it is because - to an untrained observer - the moon looks

full almost half the month, while most people will spot a new moon almost

never, and the half moon is only half for a few days a month.

I would be interested to see the statistics for those with and without

astronomica background