RE: Treatment for small children

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nicolle,

does your son show symptoms?

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:43 AM, nmlongman <nicolle@...> wrote:

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> Thank you for posting the information from BetterHealthGuy.com...

>

> I recently put the puzzle together and realized that I most probably had

> Lyme Disease since my childhood (and most recently acquired a co-infection

> which made my symptoms worse). That being the case, I was infected while I

> was pregnant with my son three years ago and he could possibly have

> congenital Lyme. I will be getting my son tested at IGeneX. It's good to

> know there are preparations out there for small children. I was wondering

> how I would possibly treat him if his test comes back positive. If anyone

> else has ideas regarding treating small children, would you please post?

>

> Thanks so much...

> Be well,

> Nicolle

>

>

>

> > 1) The first is Green Dragon Botanicals " LB Core " . It contains Japanese

> Knotweed, Andrographis, Cat's Claw, Sarsaparilla, and Dandelion. They also

> have a liquid version for children and offer a number of single herbs that

> may be quite helpful for people with tick-borne infections.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am treating my 3 yr old....what you want to know is how? LLMd...and we are

using herbs and zithromax....and detox...he is doing great

>

> From: kndplus2@...

> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:38:23 -0700

> Subject: Re: [ ] Treatment for small children

>

> nicolle,

> does your son show symptoms?

>

> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:43 AM, nmlongman <nicolle@...> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Thank you for posting the information from BetterHealthGuy.com...

> >

> > I recently put the puzzle together and realized that I most probably had

> > Lyme Disease since my childhood (and most recently acquired a co-infection

> > which made my symptoms worse). That being the case, I was infected while I

> > was pregnant with my son three years ago and he could possibly have

> > congenital Lyme. I will be getting my son tested at IGeneX. It's good to

> > know there are preparations out there for small children. I was wondering

> > how I would possibly treat him if his test comes back positive. If anyone

> > else has ideas regarding treating small children, would you please post?

> >

> > Thanks so much...

> > Be well,

> > Nicolle

> >

> >

> >

> > > 1) The first is Green Dragon Botanicals " LB Core " . It contains Japanese

> > Knotweed, Andrographis, Cat's Claw, Sarsaparilla, and Dandelion. They also

> > have a liquid version for children and offer a number of single herbs that

> > may be quite helpful for people with tick-borne infections.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

I was wondering how I would possibly treat him if his test comes back positive.

If anyone else has ideas regarding treating small children, would you please

post?

If you suspect congenital lyme, it may be another issue than a normal Bb

spirochete infection and may need different treatment. If there is no real

infections, ABX or anti-spirochetal herbs are useless.

I have heard of a few such suspected congenital lyme cases, and it would not

surprise me if these children have NO Borrelia infection at all, but instead

have some (epi)genetic change or auto-immune like reaction due to the presence

of spirochetes when the fetus was developing.

Genetic or epigenetic changes occur with some forms of MS and schizophrenia that

are probably caused by spirochete infection during pregnancy. Children might

have an immune reaction against an antigen that is no longer present after

birth, I would not blindly trust the serology in this case.

[Guest guest]

A friend of ours has a son who was treated by Dr for 2 years. He still

was getting worse. He has a positive Western Blot so that was actually very

helpful.

They have been borrowing a rife machine (DP100) for the last year and the

mother says her son is doing great. His only current symptoms are some

facial ticks. His MCS has cleared up as well as sever joint pain and lack of

appetite. He is now in after school activities (gym) etc and also won awards

at school for the first time ever.

> [ ] Treatment for small children

>

> Thank you for posting the information from BetterHealthGuy.com...

>

> I recently put the puzzle together and realized that I most

> probably had Lyme Disease since my childhood (and most

> recently acquired a co-infection which made my symptoms

> worse). That being the case, I was infected while I was

> pregnant with my son three years ago and he could possibly

> have congenital Lyme. I will be getting my son tested at

> IGeneX. It's good to know there are preparations out there

> for small children. I was wondering how I would possibly

> treat him if his test comes back positive. If anyone else

> has ideas regarding treating small children, would you please post?

>

> Thanks so much...

> Be well,

> Nicolle

>

>

>

> > 1) The first is Green Dragon Botanicals " LB Core " . It

> contains Japanese Knotweed, Andrographis, Cat's Claw,

> Sarsaparilla, and Dandelion. They also have a liquid version

> for children and offer a number of single herbs that may be

> quite helpful for people with tick-borne infections.

>

>

>

>

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>

> Buy Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme

> Borreliosis And Its Coinfections by Buhner at one of

> these locations:

> http://tinyurl.com/3bgm5d

>

>

[Guest guest]

salt/C protocol is easy for children

lymestrategies

deb

> > 1) The first is Green Dragon Botanicals " LB Core " . It contains Japanese

Knotweed, Andrographis, Cat's Claw, Sarsaparilla, and Dandelion. They also have

a liquid version for children and offer a number of single herbs that may be

quite helpful for people with tick-borne infections.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi le,

My son is showing some bothersome symptoms, which could be Lyme, but may not be.

He is super active and acts out at times, is warm most afternoons and has

trouble sleeping. I am not sure what else because he just turned three and

cannot articulate his symptoms very well... I have to go by what I see. I just

found out he is gluten and dairy sensitive and removed those from his diet three

weeks ago. I have not noticed much improvement in the above listed symptoms,

except that his chronic constipation has cleared up, yeah!

So with a little one, I was just wondering how you would deal with antibiotics

(swallowing pills) and herbs seeing the taste is very bitter? It is a general

question for now, until I get him tested and know what I am dealing with.

Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have had...

Be well,

Nicolle

> > > 1) The first is Green Dragon Botanicals " LB Core " . It contains Japanese

> > Knotweed, Andrographis, Cat's Claw, Sarsaparilla, and Dandelion. They also

> > have a liquid version for children and offer a number of single herbs that

> > may be quite helpful for people with tick-borne infections.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

***So with a little one, I was just wondering how you would deal with

antibiotics (swallowing pills) and herbs seeing the taste is very bitter? It is

a general question for now, until I get him tested and know what I am dealing

with. ***

Nicolle,

My child is older but cannot swallow pills either--has extreme gag reaction--so

with abx, we open the capsules and mix the powder with applesauce or babyfood.

With herbs, we just recently started so are using only tinctures. Once I see how

it goes, I will probably switch to the whole herb in powder form (or open

capsules, etc.) and remain on the tinctures for those, like Eleuthero, that are

prepared in that form. The tinctures I've been mixing in just plain water and/or

lemon juice, applejuice, etc.

Hope that helps, and I hope your little one feels better soon--

Mira

[Guest guest]

there is a child and adult version of BIO K which is a drink probiotic i

have my son on and i give him digestive enzymes too, i just open them and

sprinkle onto applesauce. the herbs i give him i put in a little juice so as

to not be bitter.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:25 AM, nmlongman <nicolle@...> wrote:

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> Hi le,

>

> My son is showing some bothersome symptoms, which could be Lyme, but may

> not be. He is super active and acts out at times, is warm most afternoons

> and has trouble sleeping. I am not sure what else because he just turned

> three and cannot articulate his symptoms very well... I have to go by what I

> see. I just found out he is gluten and dairy sensitive and removed those

> from his diet three weeks ago. I have not noticed much improvement in the

> above listed symptoms, except that his chronic constipation has cleared up,

> yeah!

>

> So with a little one, I was just wondering how you would deal with

> antibiotics (swallowing pills) and herbs seeing the taste is very bitter? It

> is a general question for now, until I get him tested and know what I am

> dealing with.

>

> Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have had...

> Be well,

> Nicolle

>

>

> > > > 1) The first is Green Dragon Botanicals " LB Core " . It contains

> Japanese

> > > Knotweed, Andrographis, Cat's Claw, Sarsaparilla, and Dandelion. They

> also

> > > have a liquid version for children and offer a number of single herbs

> that

> > > may be quite helpful for people with tick-borne infections.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

.. Sounds just like my daughter at that age. She was diagnosed

with congenital Lyme (I knew I had Lyme while pregnant but treated

during it and was told all would be fine). My daughter was also

allergic/sensitive to wheat and dairy from birth (ended up switching her

to Elecare (amino acid based formula) and then she was diagnosed at 2

with the Lyme and also with Autism (behaviors fit criteria... not

uncommon in congenital Lyme). The aggressive antibiotic treatment by Dr.

J in CT has resulted in an almost completely typical 5 year old at this

point, but she can't get off the abx without backsliding.

Btw, since 2 and even now she gets special ed to help cope with the

cognitive and behavioral symptoms and it helps a lot. I highly suggest

this if it is indicated. My daughter had lost some speech and didn't

care if anyone was in the room and also had strong sensory integration

problems with meltdowns for no apparent reason. But looking back at

video I see signs from when she was very young... under 1 year old.

We changed her diet to gluten free and casein free at 2 (more strict

version of what she had been on) and that helps a lot with inattention

and hyperactivity. I've 'tested' her with some gluten and dairy and sent

her off to her special preschool without any warning. (LOL!) Anyway,

they called because she was totally not herself and they were worried

she was sick despite having no fever. Learning how to parent a child

with these issues through the Autism community even though we really

don't exactly 'fit' there has helped. I'm not saying your child will end

up one of the Lyme kids presenting with Autism from the Lyme (which

eventually is cured in most cases I'm told) but just in case I wanted to

give you our background.

Jen

Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie

On 11/2/2010 9:25 AM, nmlongman wrote:

>

> Hi le,

>

> My son is showing some bothersome symptoms, which could be Lyme, but

> may not be. He is super active and acts out at times, is warm most

> afternoons and has trouble sleeping. I am not sure what else because

> he just turned three and cannot articulate his symptoms very well... I

> have to go by what I see. I just found out he is gluten and dairy

> sensitive and removed those from his diet three weeks ago. I have not

> noticed much improvement in the above listed symptoms, except that his

> chronic constipation has cleared up, yeah!

>

> So with a little one, I was just wondering how you would deal with

> antibiotics (swallowing pills) and herbs seeing the taste is very

> bitter? It is a general question for now, until I get him tested and

> know what I am dealing with.

>

> Thanks for sharing any experiences you may have had...

> Be well,

> Nicolle

>

[Guest guest]

If his test comes back positive, start treatment however you deem

acceptable but don't hang around and wait for him to be crippled by it.

If he has symptoms only, I'd start herbal treatment only and see what

happens and if he reacts, I'd add antibiotics along with the herbs at

least for a while doing the detox and probiotic protections of course.

Most people don't get a positive test! If he gets one, ACT. If your son

shows no reaction to any treatment... good or herxheimer, then you can

go from there. Not doing anything at all is the WORST you could do IMO.

I know you didnt' suggest you would not act, just wanted to state my

opinion and that I feel this very strongly. I know personally what this

disease can do to myself, my husband and my daughter's brain.

Jen

Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie