H2O2

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Holly B wrote:

> a quick search of the files turned up no info on the internal use of

food grade H2O2.

==>Sorry Holly - I thought I had put that info in the files. I will

check it later on when I have time.

> are your feelings / experiences pro or con?

==>I did okay with it, but it must be started at very very small

amounts, less than recommended at some websites, and very gradually

increased. " More is not better. " I experienced wonderful benefits

from taking baths with it.

Bee

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Would non-food grade 3% H202 HP work as well in baths?

What kind of benefits did you get from the baths with it?

From: " Bee Wilder "

I experienced wonderful benefits from taking baths with it.

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Hi everyone,

Regarding the food grade H2O2, you may use the drug store bought brands for

external use such as brushing your teeth and cleaning however it is not

recommend for internal use. The food grade brands are purer and have heavy

metals removed from them. Here is where I purchase mine, if you do a search

on the web you will find that this site has just about the best price out

there. Be sure and read the folder on H2O2 so you delute it properly before

trying this. It does work, I have used it but it tends to dry you out

ALOT!!!!! I stopped using it internally and only bathe in it now because the

amounts of Vitamin C that Bee recommends produces the same exact results.

There is no miracle cure for candida except a lengthy commitment of

compliance to a good program.

http://www.dfwx.com/goewebsite.htm

Shirley

>From: " Deb Comcast " <deborah.harper@...>

>Can you use the peroxide that is in the grocery store, is this the same

>thing? Deb

> From: jimfent

> Hi folks,

> Having dealt with candida for years I've found a couple things that

> seem to work every time.

> 1. The most persistent cases of candida will yield to food grade

> hydrogen peroxide 3% a few drops in a glass of spring water 2-3 times a

> day. This taken internatllly. Food grade peroxide comes as a

> concentrated liquid and you must dilute 1 part to 11 parts water to get

> it to 3%.

> Jim

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It will be interesting to get Bee's feedback on this... :- )

Personally, I would personally not use ordinary peroxyde (the type we

buy at the pharmacy) for external use or anything else; it's too loaded

with added substances (chemicals, etc.). Food grade peroxyde can be

found in health food stores.

Fran

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>

> It will be interesting to get Bee's feedback on this... :- )

> Personally, I would personally not use ordinary peroxyde (the type we

> buy at the pharmacy) for external use or anything else; it's too

loaded with added substances (chemicals, etc.). Food grade peroxyde can

be found in health food stores.

Fran, while I agree that food grade H202 is better, I've seen miracles

using ordinary drug store 3% too. My daughter had a nail all the way

through her foot which swelled up very big and was quite angry and red

(the emergency room did nothing to help it; only giving her a tetanus

shot). Our neighbor mix 50/50 sterilized water and H202 in which my

daughter soaked her foot, and then her foot was wrapped wet with the

solution, to dry. Almost overnight the foot became normal and she

healed wonderfully without antibiotics or pain killers.

I also knew of a friend's brother who heard cancer could be cured with

H202, but he didn't know about food grade; he took drops of the store-

bought stuff and became cured; he was about 65 years old. I would

never recommend anyone do what he did, but it is amazing he was cured.

But like Jackie (I think it was her) wrote Vitamin C also helps your

body make its own hydrogen peroxide and that's why vitamin C is such a

great cancer cure - H202 oxygenates and cancer can't grow with oxygen

present. Niacin and vitamin E also oxygenate very effectively.

Luv, Bee

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>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I've been reading about oxygen therapy and I was wonderiong what you can

dilute H2O2 with. Distilled water is not easy to find, especially if you need 8

ounces or more three times a day.

>

> What can I use? They say that juice and milk is ok, but it's off limit with

our programme...

+++Hi there. What is your name please. I don't recommend taking H202 by mouth

for a few reasons: 1) it is too easy to take too much, 2) most people find that

as they increase the number of drops it tastes more and more like bleach so they

can't stand it, 3) there's better ways to get more oxygen into the body.

The easiest way to increase oxygen levels is by taking vitamin C which increases

the body's own production of H202. Also B vitamins, particularly niacin, and

vitamin E also increase oxygen levels.

All the best, Bee

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I'm Verbeke from Belgium. We have talked a few times by e-mail and on the

forum.

Last time I contacted you I had several issues (blood test) but I had no desire

to pay for extra services so I didn't contact you on the subject again. But all

these issues are gone anyway. One month later everything was back to normal,

even my cholesterol.

I've been following your diet from semptember 1st till december 23rd. I have

been on a strict zero carb diet since then (eating only fish and beef with extra

raw beef fat) everything raw, lightly cooked or as pemmican, that is for the

last 6 months. I haven't cheated once yet. I don't take probiotics nor any

vitamins because I am not convinced that these are beneficial with a zero carb

diet. I do eat coconut oil everyday but skip some days from time to time because

this food makes me very depressed and sad, suicidal... It increases my symptoms

which are mostly mental (plus many physical problems as well unfortunately). I

also take 2 HCL pills with each meal.

It is indeed probably easy to take too much but if I don't take too much, is it

dangerous? You seem to defend this therapy in your article. I want to give it a

go because I haven't seen any marked improvements on a restricted carbohydrate

diet with HCL and coconut oil. My situation improved when I started your diet,

and even more when I stopped all carbs. My girlfriend even commented on me not

complaining all the time any more. But all symptoms remain there, they are

simply milder. When it's sunny it even feels nearly as if I was normal, nearly

as if. Otherwise I am as unwell as ever and I'm sick and tired of it. I don't

want to end up killing myself so I want to add something new.

Especially because I have seen a video made by Dr Whiting on Candida and condida

controversies, I also talked to him on the phone and he was quite convincing. He

says that dieting and antifungals weren't the solution. That the best solution

was oygen therapy. Of course he also wants to sell his own product that is

ridiculously expensive and that I won't buy. So far my own experience shows me

that it is indeed the case that dieting with coconut oil does not seem to cure

me as my symptoms only diminished. I have been reading on the subject for hours

and I believe that this therapy is harmless as long as I'm carefull about the

amount I dilute. I don't mind the taste, I would eat shit if I were sure that it

would stop my mental symptoms. I would do absolutely anything.

By the way, I really appreciate your work and I regurlarly come on the forum,

even though I don't post anymore as I'm mostly active on Washington's

Zeroing in on health forum.

Take care everyone,

.

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Just putting out a question for a friend. She has been looking out for

alternative things to try as doctors stopped all her antibiotics. She came

across some articles on hydrogen peroxide therapy and asked me to find out if

others have tried it. I understand you can get IV, tablet form or solution for

bath water. Any experiences (good or bad) on each of these options would be

gratefully received!

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I have heard some positive things about doing it, like putting drops in water.

She could check out www.betterhealthguy.com, who has a treasure trove of

alternative treatments to recommend. - Robin

[ ] H2O2

Just putting out a question for a friend. She has been looking out for

alternative things to try as doctors stopped all her antibiotics. She came

across some articles on hydrogen peroxide therapy and asked me to find out if

others have tried it. I understand you can get IV, tablet form or solution for

bath water. Any experiences (good or bad) on each of these options would be

gratefully received!

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>

> Just putting out a question for a friend. She has been looking out for

alternative things to try as doctors stopped all her antibiotics. She came

across some articles on hydrogen peroxide therapy and asked me to find out if

others have tried it. I understand you can get IV, tablet form or solution for

bath water. Any experiences (good or bad) on each of these options would be

gratefully received!

I don't have any personal experience, but IMHO this is similar to oxygen / ozone

therapy, MMS and many other alternative treatments. There is NO WAY that this is

really going to kill Borrelia that hide in the tissues (cyst/biofilm) or inside

cells, because if effective, you would kill the body cells with them. Maybe it

can kill Bb in the bloodstream (only early in infection) but even that I doubt.

Of course, people could feel better if they use this because it kills other

infections inside the body. I you are not sure if the problem is Lyme

(Borrelia), who knows.

What puzzles me is that some of the advocates of such therapy are the same

people who push loads of anti-oxidants that have exactly the opposite

(biochemical) action ...

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>

> I have Candida problems since a year and half after taking a wide-spectrum

antibiotic cure upon post-delivery sepsis. I am currently on the candida diet

(since 7 months) and my condition is improving. However, I still have the throat

problem (white plaques) that persist. I wondered should I try the H2O2 but I

still do not understand whether I should use 35% food grade H2O2 diluted

properly in water and drink the whole amount (e.g. 250ml) or should I use the 3%

dilution and take these drops diluted in water again? Thank you for your help

and all the information you share with us.

+++Hi S. Welcome to our group. My candida diet is very different than other

candida diets and that's why it get results where others fail.

You will understand why it works so well once you learn about it. The fact is

that Candida cannot be cured by " killing it off, " as others believe. Candida is

only cured by building up the immune system, which is done by:

1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements),

2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and

cancer),

3) Eliminating damaging foods, and

4) Eliminating toxins in general.

When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or

any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when

the body is healthy.

So that's why I also don't recommend taking any antifungals or probiotics, like

other programs.

Therefore, you shouldn't take H202 by mouth, since candida cannot be killed off

anyway, and often people think " more is better " and don't measure it carefully

so they take too much. If you think H202 is important take vitamin C instead,

which increases your body's production of H202, which is a safer and better way

to oxgenate your body anyway. Other things on my program also increase oxygen.

I recommend you correct your diet first, and start taking the handful of

supplements I recommend, which provide your body with what it needs so it can

heal itself naturally, the way Nature intended.

Ensure you read two important articles so you know what you need to do and why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee