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Good post , thanks! I had a naturopath (?) suggest AdreCor which

supports the adrenals without using dessicated materials just supplements.

At one point I took 6 per day, now I'm down to four and thining about adding

the eleuthero.

I also take 50 somethings of thyroid - my poor body has been bet-up with the

bugs but seems to be coming out the other side. Ready to reevaluate

bloodwork to see where we are.

What else do you use ?

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Subject: [ ] Re: eleuthero - double edge sword

I've been using eleuthero off and on for 10 months (core protocol and

sarsaparilla also 10 months; supps and abx 2 years). My typical dosage is 1

dropperful AM and then again early to mid afternoon, never after 4:00 PM as

recommended by Buhner. On a day when I really have to push it, like driving

all day for LLMD appt, I may do two dropperfuls or add a third dose. This

amount works really well for me for energy and alertness without any

raciness.

I do go through long stretches when I don't use it, sometimes because I fell

well and don't need it and sometimes when I know I need to nap during the

day because I'm not well or didn't sleep at night.

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Cerph- thanks for posting this info. This herb is Electro is in the Source

Naturals Cats Claw Defense complex that I'm taking. I believe Zoe posted on this

board a while ago that she was taking this. I think it is a small amount maybe

50 mg, but I really like this cats claw formula...there are so many immune

boosting ingredients. Zoe are you still taking this supplement, if so do you

like it and think its helping you?

>

> This herb has many benefits, and I feel very helpful in combating

> depression/lifting the spirits, while at the same time, strengthening the

immune

> system.

>

> Some specialists believe it to combat Lyme as well.

>

> D.

>

>

> " Eleuthero (Eleutherococcus senticosus [Latin]), also known as Siberian

ginseng,

> devil's shrub, ci wu ju, and touch-me-not, is native to in Siberia. It also

> grows in China, Japan, and Korea, where it has been used medicinally for

> thousands of years. Eleuthero is not from the same family as Panax, or Asian

> ginseng, although it has long been used as a cheaper substitute for ginseng.

> Like Panax ginseng, eleuthero is thought to be an adaptogen, or a substance

that

> adapts itself to correct whatever is out of balance in the body. However, it's

> important to keep in mind that all the research performed on Panax ginseng

> simply does not apply to eleuthero—these plants do not have the same chemical

> makeup.

>

> Like Panax ginseng, eleuthero is used in Asia to promote physical and mental

> vitality. Modern research has shown that eleuthero may help boost the immune

> system, especially during intense training, when it may be compromised by

severe

> physical or emotional stress. Athletes around the world use eleuthero to

> increase their stamina and endurance, and to help them recover from their

> workouts more quickly.

>

> Some researchers believe that eleuthero may enhance the body's ability to

> process interferon, a chemical that boosts immune system activity. It is also

> thought to help regulate cortisol levels in the body. Cortisol is a hormone

that

> is produced within the body to help cope with stress; unfortunately, it also

> destroys protein needed to build and maintain muscle while causing the body to

> store excess amounts of fat. Eleuthero may help stimulate the body to fight

> harder against other diseases linked to a depressed immune system, such as

> chronic fatigue syndrome, lupus, and Lyme disease, and may help prevent some

> types of cancer as well.

>

> The stress-reducing properties of eleuthero also make it a possible treatment

> for a variety of mental disorders, including ADHD and depression. Some studies

> have shown that eleuthero improves memory and concentration while helping to

> balance levels of mood-determining chemicals in the brain, including

serotonin,

> dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine. It also helps prevent adrenal

> exhaustion by reducing the body's stress response, thus regulating the

> production of corticosteroids and adrenaline in the body.

>

> Recent studies indicate that eleuthero helps reduce blood sugar and

cholesterol

> levels. It may also have mild estrogenic effects, although it has also been

used

> to treat low libido in men. More study is needed in this area, although these

> seemingly conflicting effects may be the result of eleuthero's ability to

adapt

> itself in order to correct imbalances in the body.

>

> Eleuthero is available in commercial capsules, extracts, tablets, ginseng

> tonics, and teas. Follow the dosage instructions on the package. People with

> diabetes or hypoglycemia should not take this herb without first consulting

> their physician, as it can affect blood sugar levels. People with heart

disease

> also should not take eleuthero without first consulting their physician, as it

> may raise blood pressure or cause irregular heartbeat. Long-term use (more

than

> 2 months) of eleuthero has been associated with muscle spasms and nerve

> inflammation. "

>

>

> http://www.vitaminstuff.com/herbs-eleuthero.html

> **********************************************************************

>

>

>

> This article mentions it's abilities to reduce stress and improve neurological

> function.

>

> http://www.zhion.com/herb/Eleuthero.html

>

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>

> OK, so I just have to mention my new happy herb... Eleuthero. I started it

about 4 days ago and I have noticed a remarkable improvement in my mood. My

husband cannot believe the difference. It is a bit of a stimulant, so you can't

take too much, but it just makes everything look a lot brighter, not to mention

giving you the extra energy needed to get through the day. Have others had this

experience?

For me Eleuthero helped very well for the strong fatigue, which was a relatively

recent problem for me after using ABX and Buhner herbs. I did not notice any

mood changes. I stopped after two months because of the high cost. I'm now

making my own extract and will start using that in a month or so.

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