Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

[Guest guest]

I don't know what you had done, but whenever I have dental work I will try to

take some chlorella and I take Clindamicin. Even with cleaning. Plus, I will

usually use photon light therapy to aid in swelling and pain.

I don't know what my old dentist used, I don't think it was Novacaine, but it

was so much easier to handle. I hate Novacaine.

Hope you feel better soon!

>

>  

> Goodevening Everyone,

>  

> I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My heart

is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I have a rash on

my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because she did a lot of

work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100 what it should be. Do

any of these things happen to anyone else when getting dental work?

>  

> Blessings

>

>  

>  

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

No, I haven't had this happen, except getting a little lightheaded from the

Novocaine. May-be you are sensitive to the Novocaine? What kind of dental work

did you have done? Maud

On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:38 AM, MG wrote:

>

> Goodevening Everyone,

>

> I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My heart

is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I have a rash on

my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because she did a lot of

work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100 what it should be. Do

any of these things happen to anyone else when getting dental work?

>

> Blessings

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Novacaine comes mixed with epinephrine. I can't tolerate it at all-- get heart

pounding and tremors for 24 hours. It's very hard on the adrenals if they're

already stressed. You can tell the dentist you can't tolerate epinephrine and

they'll use a different numbing agent. They may have to inject you twice,

because the other drugs don't last as long, but it works and doesn't give me

palpitations & tremors.

I had a tooth extracted two months ago and have been very sick ever since. I'm

waiting for blood work results again, but had a lot of pain, swollen lymph nodes

(brain scramble can be fun-- I almost wrote nymph lodes!) and increasing kidney

pain after taking ibuprofen. My immune system seems to have been knocked for a

loop.

[Guest guest]

Well tonight one of the teeth they worked on felt sharp on my tongue and then

all the sudden a piece fell out and sharp pain because the nerve is exposed. so

back i go at 9am to be on their doorstep. I will ask for no Epi but Im praying

they dont have to pull it out....sigh

From: Aurora <aurora@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 11:31 PM

 

Novacaine comes mixed with epinephrine. I can't tolerate it at all-- get heart

pounding and tremors for 24 hours. It's very hard on the adrenals if they're

already stressed. You can tell the dentist you can't tolerate epinephrine and

they'll use a different numbing agent. They may have to inject you twice,

because the other drugs don't last as long, but it works and doesn't give me

palpitations & tremors.

I had a tooth extracted two months ago and have been very sick ever since. I'm

waiting for blood work results again, but had a lot of pain, swollen lymph nodes

(brain scramble can be fun-- I almost wrote nymph lodes!) and increasing kidney

pain after taking ibuprofen. My immune system seems to have been knocked for a

loop.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I also get increased rashes, etc. when I have dental work done, or stress

for that matter. A lot of my bart symptoms are in my jaw area too, and I

have tooth pains all the time.

Hope you feel better soon?

From:

MG <goddess_mystic@...>

To:

Date:

09/11/2010 01:38 AM

Subject:

[ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

Sent by:

Goodevening Everyone,

I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My

heart is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I

have a rash on my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because

she did a lot of work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100

what it should be. Do any of these things happen to anyone else when

getting dental work?

Blessings

[Guest guest]

I fine lidocaine (novacaine) makes my heart race and I don't feel good

after it. Now I am only given carbacaine sp? It takes longer to set in,

but I feel so much better afterwards.

From:

" " <laura_mac@...>

To:

Date:

09/11/2010 10:36 PM

Subject:

[ ] Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

Sent by:

I don't know what you had done, but whenever I have dental work I will try

to take some chlorella and I take Clindamicin. Even with cleaning. Plus, I

will usually use photon light therapy to aid in swelling and pain.

I don't know what my old dentist used, I don't think it was Novacaine, but

it was so much easier to handle. I hate Novacaine.

Hope you feel better soon!

>

>

> Goodevening Everyone,

>

> I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My

heart is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I

have a rash on my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because

she did a lot of work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100

what it should be. Do any of these things happen to anyone else when

getting dental work?

>

> Blessings

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I deleted the message chain as it was getting long

The time before the last time I went to the dentist I had a major reaction to

the novocaine. Tunnel vision, fear, heart racing. He told me they actually

don't use novocaine anymore (although everyone calls it that anyway).

The mixture they use now has epinephrine in it (makes it work better, faster) -

if you are experiencing any kind of adrenal stress/fatigue, it can really blow

you out of the water.

They marked me 'No EPI' in my chart, and the time I went since I had no reaction

to the numbing agent.

I spoke with a friend of mine who used to be an ER nurse - she said that it

sounded like I had a major parasympathetic nervous system response to the epi,

and my blood pressure bottomed out. So this is nothing to mess around with. If

you have weird symptoms from an injection, talk to your dentist about

alternatives. If your dentist isn't open to this, find a new one!!!

- Jen

[Guest guest]

You poor thing - let me know what happens. That has happened to me before -

my teeth are almost all capped because of their poor quality.....

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of MG

Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:35 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

Well tonight one of the teeth they worked on felt sharp on my tongue and

then all the sudden a piece fell out and sharp pain because the nerve is

exposed. so back i go at 9am to be on their doorstep. I will ask for no Epi

but Im praying they dont have to pull it out....sigh

From: Aurora <aurora@... <mailto:aurora%40historica.us> >

Subject: [ ] Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

<mailto: %40>

Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 11:31 PM

Novacaine comes mixed with epinephrine. I can't tolerate it at all-- get

heart pounding and tremors for 24 hours. It's very hard on the adrenals if

they're already stressed. You can tell the dentist you can't tolerate

epinephrine and they'll use a different numbing agent. They may have to

inject you twice, because the other drugs don't last as long, but it works

and doesn't give me palpitations & tremors.

I had a tooth extracted two months ago and have been very sick ever since.

I'm waiting for blood work results again, but had a lot of pain, swollen

lymph nodes (brain scramble can be fun-- I almost wrote nymph lodes!) and

increasing kidney pain after taking ibuprofen. My immune system seems to

have been knocked for a loop.

[Guest guest]

They didnt have to pull it. he said the other dentist didnt do it right...sigh.

they are composites so it is more difficult to harden them he said. And they

used no Epi which made a HUGE difference! I have pain but my cns isnt all jacked

up lol. Now back in 2 weeks for the other 3 on the right side and removing the 4

amalgams in 2 months in the bay Area by laser. Hugs

From: Aurora <aurora@... <mailto:aurora%40historica.us> >

Subject: [ ] Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

<mailto: %40>

Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 11:31 PM

Novacaine comes mixed with epinephrine. I can't tolerate it at all-- get

heart pounding and tremors for 24 hours. It's very hard on the adrenals if

they're already stressed. You can tell the dentist you can't tolerate

epinephrine and they'll use a different numbing agent. They may have to

inject you twice, because the other drugs don't last as long, but it works

and doesn't give me palpitations & tremors.

I had a tooth extracted two months ago and have been very sick ever since.

I'm waiting for blood work results again, but had a lot of pain, swollen

lymph nodes (brain scramble can be fun-- I almost wrote nymph lodes!) and

increasing kidney pain after taking ibuprofen. My immune system seems to

have been knocked for a loop.

[Guest guest]

I have to ask them not to give me Epinephrine (which is usually in the

novocaine). That keeps the heart from pounding for hours. Last time I had

Epinephrine my heart pounded for two days straight!!! It was horrible.

Connie

[ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

Goodevening Everyone,

I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My heart is

pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I have a rash on my

leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because she did a lot of work,

but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100 what it should be. Do any of

these things happen to anyone else when getting dental work?

Blessings

[Guest guest]

I had to go back today Connie and got the one without Epi in it and did just

fine. No anxiety, racing heart or rash woohoo!

From: Connie Blaze <connieblaz@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 3:52 PM

 

I have to ask them not to give me Epinephrine (which is usually in the

novocaine). That keeps the heart from pounding for hours. Last time I had

Epinephrine my heart pounded for two days straight!!! It was horrible.

Connie

[ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

Goodevening Everyone,

I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My heart is

pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I have a rash on my

leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because she did a lot of work,

but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100 what it should be. Do any of

these things happen to anyone else when getting dental work?

Blessings

[Guest guest]

My blood pressure bottomed out after a colonoscopy three years ago, following IV

injection of a different drug (benzodiazepine, I think). Part of the problem is

that we may not be detoxing properly so even a small amount has tremendous

effect on us.

deb

>

>

> I deleted the message chain as it was getting long

>

> The time before the last time I went to the dentist I had a major reaction to

the novocaine. Tunnel vision, fear, heart racing. He told me they actually

don't use novocaine anymore (although everyone calls it that anyway).

>

> The mixture they use now has epinephrine in it (makes it work better, faster)

- if you are experiencing any kind of adrenal stress/fatigue, it can really blow

you out of the water.

>

> They marked me 'No EPI' in my chart, and the time I went since I had no

reaction to the numbing agent.

>

> I spoke with a friend of mine who used to be an ER nurse - she said that it

sounded like I had a major parasympathetic nervous system response to the epi,

and my blood pressure bottomed out. So this is nothing to mess around with. If

you have weird symptoms from an injection, talk to your dentist about

alternatives. If your dentist isn't open to this, find a new one!!!

>

> - Jen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Jen! I may have to drop this list, though I've been a member for

years. It has gotten so long and cumbersome that I can't pull it up in a format

that I can read.

PLEASE, delete some of the messages you are responding to. Leave only the part

or parts that are relevant. The result if that is not done makes it impossibly

long.

Thank you in advance. jo

>

>

> I deleted the message chain as it was getting long

>

[Guest guest]

i see a holistic integrated dentist and it has made all the difference in

the world with the lyme.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Maud Steinberg <maudsteinberg@...>wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> No, I haven't had this happen, except getting a little lightheaded from the

> Novocaine. May-be you are sensitive to the Novocaine? What kind of dental

> work did you have done? Maud

> On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:38 AM, MG wrote:

>

> >

> > Goodevening Everyone,

> >

> > I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My

> heart is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I have

> a rash on my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because she

> did a lot of work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100 what

> it should be. Do any of these things happen to anyone else when getting

> dental work?

> >

> > Blessings

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to add in that after a root canal several years ago by a general

dentist, I had a similar reaction. He didn't take my BP, but I bet it was low.

He was slow, took over 2 hrs to do the root canal, and injected me three times.

I started to feel like I was going to pass out and had tremendous anxiety and

trouble focusing. The drugged feeling lasted 3 days.

One dentist told me I am sensitive to epi. I've done another root canal using

minimal epi and I did ok. All other times I ask for carbacain.

At least now I know what happened.

> >

> >

> > I deleted the message chain as it was getting long

> >

> > The time before the last time I went to the dentist I had a major reaction

to the novocaine. Tunnel vision, fear, heart racing. He told me they actually

don't use novocaine anymore (although everyone calls it that anyway).

> >

> > The mixture they use now has epinephrine in it (makes it work better,

faster) - if you are experiencing any kind of adrenal stress/fatigue, it can

really blow you out of the water.

> >

> > They marked me 'No EPI' in my chart, and the time I went since I had no

reaction to the numbing agent.

> >

> > I spoke with a friend of mine who used to be an ER nurse - she said that it

sounded like I had a major parasympathetic nervous system response to the epi,

and my blood pressure bottomed out. So this is nothing to mess around with. If

you have weird symptoms from an injection, talk to your dentist about

alternatives. If your dentist isn't open to this, find a new one!!!

> >

> > - Jen

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to add in that after a root canal several years ago by a general

dentist, I had a similar reaction. He didn't take my BP, but I bet it was low.

He was slow, took over 2 hrs to do the root canal, and injected me three times.

I started to feel like I was going to pass out and had tremendous anxiety and

trouble focusing. The drugged feeling lasted 3 days.

One dentist told me I am sensitive to epi. I've done another root canal using

minimal epi and I did ok. All other times I ask for carbacain.

At least now I know what happened.

> >

> >

> > I deleted the message chain as it was getting long

> >

> > The time before the last time I went to the dentist I had a major reaction

to the novocaine. Tunnel vision, fear, heart racing. He told me they actually

don't use novocaine anymore (although everyone calls it that anyway).

> >

> > The mixture they use now has epinephrine in it (makes it work better,

faster) - if you are experiencing any kind of adrenal stress/fatigue, it can

really blow you out of the water.

> >

> > They marked me 'No EPI' in my chart, and the time I went since I had no

reaction to the numbing agent.

> >

> > I spoke with a friend of mine who used to be an ER nurse - she said that it

sounded like I had a major parasympathetic nervous system response to the epi,

and my blood pressure bottomed out. So this is nothing to mess around with. If

you have weird symptoms from an injection, talk to your dentist about

alternatives. If your dentist isn't open to this, find a new one!!!

> >

> > - Jen

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

After any dental work, including cleanings, I will feel flu-like for a week or

so. A holistic dentist in St. Louis checks everyones saliva for spirochetes, and

if it's positive, he has them pre-treat with chlorhexadrine. I've tried this,

but it didn't change a thing for me. However, maybe it will help you or someone

else.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I also get increased rashes, etc. when I have dental work done, or stress

> for that matter. A lot of my bart symptoms are in my jaw area too, and I

> have tooth pains all the time.

>

> Hope you feel better soon?

>

>

>

>

>

> From:

> MG <goddess_mystic@...>

> To:

>

> Date:

> 09/11/2010 01:38 AM

> Subject:

> [ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

> Sent by:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Goodevening Everyone,

>

> I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My

> heart is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I

> have a rash on my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because

> she did a lot of work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100

> what it should be. Do any of these things happen to anyone else when

> getting dental work?

>

> Blessings

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

After any dental work, including cleanings, I will feel flu-like for a week or

so. A holistic dentist in St. Louis checks everyones saliva for spirochetes, and

if it's positive, he has them pre-treat with chlorhexadrine. I've tried this,

but it didn't change a thing for me. However, maybe it will help you or someone

else.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I also get increased rashes, etc. when I have dental work done, or stress

> for that matter. A lot of my bart symptoms are in my jaw area too, and I

> have tooth pains all the time.

>

> Hope you feel better soon?

>

>

>

>

>

> From:

> MG <goddess_mystic@...>

> To:

>

> Date:

> 09/11/2010 01:38 AM

> Subject:

> [ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

> Sent by:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Goodevening Everyone,

>

> I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My

> heart is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I

> have a rash on my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because

> she did a lot of work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100

> what it should be. Do any of these things happen to anyone else when

> getting dental work?

>

> Blessings

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Funny to see this thread of messages today because my tooth cracked and a piece

fell out during work this morning. I just got it fixed, but am very cranky, not

sleepy, but want to be alone and lie down....all this after being so happy that

I was having a productive day at work.

That particular tooth seemed to have shifted a few weeks ago - suddenly I

couldn't chew on one side because the grooves of the teeth weren't meeting up

properly.

I know the Lyme et al. has leeched calcium from my body because I fractured

bones in each foot this spring. Plus I was having muscle twitches. The

twitches stopped once I found a good calcium supplement, but they come back when

I'm sick (I just got over bronchitis - maybe mycoplasma acting up again). I'm

scared all of my skeletal system is going to fall apart!

Got oil?

www.crudethemovie.com

www.H2oildoc.com

________________________________

From: <camcdowellkc@...>

Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 7:47:01 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

After any dental work, including cleanings, I will feel flu-like for a week or

so. A holistic dentist in St. Louis checks everyones saliva for spirochetes, and

if it's positive, he has them pre-treat with chlorhexadrine. I've tried this,

but it didn't change a thing for me. However, maybe it will help you or someone

else.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I also get increased rashes, etc. when I have dental work done, or stress

> for that matter. A lot of my bart symptoms are in my jaw area too, and I

> have tooth pains all the time.

>

> Hope you feel better soon?

>

>

>

>

>

> From:

> MG <goddess_mystic@...>

> To:

>

> Date:

> 09/11/2010 01:38 AM

> Subject:

> [ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

> Sent by:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Goodevening Everyone,

>

> I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My

> heart is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I

> have a rash on my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because

> she did a lot of work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100

> what it should be. Do any of these things happen to anyone else when

> getting dental work?

>

> Blessings

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Calcium supplements are dangerous. Use herbs that make bones stronger.

Silica. Horsetail and nettles

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Ma Huang <blueskyacupuncture@...> wrote:

Funny to see this thread of messages today because my tooth cracked and a piece

fell out during work this morning. I just got it fixed, but am very cranky, not

sleepy, but want to be alone and lie down....all this after being so happy that

I was having a productive day at work.

That particular tooth seemed to have shifted a few weeks ago - suddenly I

couldn't chew on one side because the grooves of the teeth weren't meeting up

properly.

I know the Lyme et al. has leeched calcium from my body because I fractured

bones in each foot this spring. Plus I was having muscle twitches. The

twitches stopped once I found a good calcium supplement, but they come back when

I'm sick (I just got over bronchitis - maybe mycoplasma acting up again). I'm

scared all of my skeletal system is going to fall apart!

Got oil?

www.crudethemovie.com

www.H2oildoc.com

________________________________

From: <camcdowellkc@...>

Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 7:47:01 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Dental Work and Our Bugs

After any dental work, including cleanings, I will feel flu-like for a week or

so. A holistic dentist in St. Louis checks everyones saliva for spirochetes, and

if it's positive, he has them pre-treat with chlorhexadrine. I've tried this,

but it didn't change a thing for me. However, maybe it will help you or someone

else.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I also get increased rashes, etc. when I have dental work done, or stress

> for that matter. A lot of my bart symptoms are in my jaw area too, and I

> have tooth pains all the time.

>

> Hope you feel better soon?

>

>

>

>

>

> From:

> MG <goddess_mystic@...>

> To:

>

> Date:

> 09/11/2010 01:38 AM

> Subject:

> [ ] Dental Work and Our Bugs

> Sent by:

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Goodevening Everyone,

>

> I had to have dental work today, but only had them do 1 side today. My

> heart is pounding from the Novocaine, My Bart symptoms are flared and I

> have a rash on my leg now. Also I know she told me I would be sore because

> she did a lot of work, but it seems as if the pain is magnified times 100

> what it should be. Do any of these things happen to anyone else when

> getting dental work?

>

> Blessings

>

>

>

>

>