Re: Re: Taking herbs when unable to swallow pills?

September 23, 2010

Thank you, Yarrow.

If I start her on Knotweed 1/4 tsp once a day, what is the ultimate dosage I am

working up to? (She is barely 100 lbs.)

While I do plan on starting slowly, using just Knotweed to start, what would be

the next " most " important herb to add after that?

I would like to target Babs to see if she has any herx or improvement because

her LLMD doesn't want to treat for Babs--saying the Bart is her biggest issue

right now; however, where she has plateaued in her symptoms with just Lyme and

Bart treatment (and one of her earliest tests came back with borderline Babs

positive), I'd like to see if Babs may in fact be the issue.

Her biggest remaining symptoms are all over body/muscle pains/aches, frontal

headache (sinus-pressure like), fatigue, and Bart marks. Will Knotweed help

those symptoms? Any other Buhner herbs that target those? (I have Buhner's book

and have read it, but I'm feeling overwhelmed right now and just want to start

her on something. Thanks for understanding!)

Thanks for all your help. I'm nervous to add yet more stuff into her little

body, but I really, really feel that herbs are the missing factor at this point.

Mira

September 23, 2010

Thank you Knotweed. I'll keep that in mind and switch options up if she finds

yogurt or applesauce makes the herbs taste worse.

Mira

[ ] Re: Taking herbs when unable to swallow pills?

It takes a bit of experimenting, some herbs don't mix wel with watery substances

and need some fat (e.g. like found in yoghurt) and for some the taste is a

problem. Catsclaw mixes with yoghurt, but this seems to increase the unpleasant

taste (maybe I should try applesauce ...).

With andrographis the only thing that works for me is swallowing with coffee or

strong chocolate, in order to mask the intensely bitter taste.

September 23, 2010

Hi Mira,

You and I are in similar situations, treating children. I just started

my almost 8-year-old daughter on antibiotics today for Lyme. She had a

bad case last year with Bell's Palsy. I'm trying smilax (1/3 of a pill

opened and mixed into applesauce) today, and Vitamin C and enzymes, but

will also be adding more herbs as I get a feel for how she is handling

things. This is so tough.

I'm thinking of adding the herbs one at a time, as Buhner recommends in

this case, to a person who is very sensitive to the herbs:

http://planetthrive.com/2009/10/reaction-to-lyme-herbs/

He says, " I would begin with /eleutherococcus/ tincture, 1/8 tsp 3x

daily, and cat's claw. Then after a month, if this goes well, add in

resveratrol and go for another month at low dose. Then add in

andrographis and see how it works for you. "

I haven't found more specific information yet. I have been trying small

doses of Knotweed on her for the past two weeks or so, and she gets

pretty sick from it every time. So I'll switch to the eleuthero and

cat's claw.

Have you considered using the whole herbs and making teas?

Best wishes, I kind of know how you feel!

Trish

September 23, 2010

That's okay--I understand. I'll read Buhner's book further and/or contact an

herbalist, etc., just thought you might know off hand--so no problem!

I wish so much that I could muscle test her. I've tried a couple of times, but

it was quite comical--lol.

I wish you much success in your healing and a fast and complete recovery!

Thanks again for all your help.

I do appreciate it!

Mira

[ ] Re: Taking herbs when unable to swallow pills?

Dear Mira,

I so wish i could answer your questions with confidence and wisdom.

Sorry to say I don't feel qualified to guide you or your daughter so

specifically through these next steps.

My own body is quite ill and i'm taking things moment to moment. What I do is

muscle test with my partner or a friend to discern what is right to take each

day, as it is always shifting.

My understanding is that there are herbalists and doctors who are versed in the

Buhner protocol who would be more qualified to guide you.

Peace and ease,

yarrow

September 26, 2010

Thank you, Trish. Sorry to hear your daughter is sick too--these infections are

truly horrid!

I've been researching Eleuthero tincture (trying to find one that is alcohol

free) and plan on ordering some soon as well as knotweed and cat's claw. I'm

also going to research the cryptolep (sp?), though definitely want to add in one

at a time to observe herxes and reactions.

Thanks for the planet thrive link.

I haven't thought of making teas, but that is a great idea--wonder though how to

know how much herb to add to equal the recommended dose?

I hope your daughter finds relief soon!

Mira

September 27, 2010

Thank you, Mira.

Directions for making the knotweed decoction are in the book: for an

adult dose you simmer one ounce of herb (28 grams) in 32 ounces water (1

liter) for 20 minutes, strain, cool and drink in four equal doses during

the day.

That is the only one I can find tea-making directions for, but I know

the eleuthero also comes as a tea. How it tastes is, I suppose, another

matter.

I have some NOW brand cat's claw which is powdered, and I assume other

brands are as well, so that should go easily into applesauce.

Thanks for your condolences about my daughter, she's still got her spunk

so I'm relieved (for now.)

Best wishes with healing your child, too!

Trish

On 09/26/2010 10:29 PM, miradan@... wrote:

>

> Thank you, Trish. Sorry to hear your daughter is sick too--these

> infections are truly horrid!

>

> I've been researching Eleuthero tincture (trying to find one that is

> alcohol free) and plan on ordering some soon as well as knotweed and

> cat's claw. I'm also going to research the cryptolep (sp?), though

> definitely want to add in one at a time to observe herxes and reactions.

>

> Thanks for the planet thrive link.

>

> I haven't thought of making teas, but that is a great idea--wonder

> though how to know how much herb to add to equal the recommended dose?

>

> I hope your daughter finds relief soon!

>

> Mira

>

September 27, 2010