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derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation no etoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r Ingredients of Resveratrol Supplement Facts Serving Size:

2 tablets Ingredients Amount %DV Standardized Hu Zhang Root Extract(Polygonum cuspidatum)Standardized to 8% total resveratrols 1 g † Yielding: Total Resveratrols 80 mg † Resveratrol 20 mg † Calcium 218 mg 20% Other Ingredients: dibasic

calcium phosphate, stearic acid, modified cellulose gum, colloidal silicon dioxide, and magnesium stearate. Judy <floridajudy@...> wrote: Maybe some of you pharmacists can help me. I recently heard about asubstance called "resveratrol" that's shown promise as reversing theeffects of a sub-optimal diet. Problem is, it seems to be extractedfrom red wine. What are the chances this has traces of ETOH in it, orcould otherwise

cause a positive EtG?Maybe I should just eat a couple of pounds of red grapes a day...Nah. Isn't fruit kind of iffy, for that matter?Oh well. Put that one on the shelf along with the kombucha tea.

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It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, it

shouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.

So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the good

stuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one's

addressed that issue.

I bought Welch's new organic kind.

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etoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r

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Remember that the published research by Dahl that everyone pushing this test as 'the gold standard, proof of drinking' ignores showed two positives in a placebo group drinking grape juice! I don't think anyone can say there is NO published studies that show anything but alcohol showing positives! The research was there....just ignored and NOT further researched! Judy <floridajudy@...> wrote: It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, itshouldn't matter if it's fermented

or not.So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the goodstuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one'saddressed that issue.I bought Welch's new organic kind.>> derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation noetoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r >

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anything with sugar ferments judy...since the skin is protein does not ferment... fresh grape juice is great,probably not as concentrated as pills or as strong..remember that if old apple juice can inc EtG,old grape juice probably will too,i am going overseas for a couple of weeks will be out of pocket mostly so my posting will be very spotty...hang in there,guys...regards,r Judy <floridajudy@...> wrote: It strikes that since

resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, itshouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the goodstuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one'saddressed that issue.I bought Welch's new organic kind.>> derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation noetoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r >

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Robin, I don't have my bags packed yet...don't leave without me!!! :)

Have a GREAT time....we'll miss you!

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Bon voyage, Robin. You'll be missed.robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: anything with sugar ferments judy...since the skin is protein does not ferment... fresh grape juice is great,probably not as concentrated as pills or as strong..remember that if old apple juice can inc EtG,old grape juice probably will too,i am going overseas for a couple of weeks will be out of pocket mostly so my posting will be very spotty...hang in

there,guys...regards,r Judy <floridajudygru (DOT) net> wrote: It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, itshouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the goodstuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one'saddressed that issue.I bought Welch's new organic kind.>> derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation noetoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r >

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They're letting you out of the country? Ha, ha-have a great time-nothing new with me--just waiting--I was called to test today-yuck-there goes my nice weekend.

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Bon voyage, Robin. You'll be missed.robin murray <remurraymd > wrote:

anything with sugar ferments judy...since the skin is protein does not ferment...

fresh grape juice is great,probably not as concentrated as pills or as strong..remember that if old apple juice can inc EtG,old grape juice probably

will too,i am going overseas for a couple of weeks will be out of pocket mostly

so my posting will be very spotty...hang in there,guys...regards,r

Judy <floridajudygru (DOT) net> wrote:

It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, itshouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the goodstuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one'saddressed that issue.I bought Welch's new organic kind.>> derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation noetoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r >

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Have a great trip Robin!! Thanks for all you do!!

Robin Green

--- robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote:

> anything with sugar ferments judy...since the skin is protein does

> not ferment...

> fresh grape juice is great,probably not as concentrated as pills

> or as strong..remember that if old apple juice can inc EtG,old

> grape juice probably

> will too,i am going overseas for a couple of weeks will be out of

> pocket mostly

> so my posting will be very spotty...hang in

> there,guys...regards,r

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> Judy <floridajudy@...> wrote:

> It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape

> *skins*, it

> shouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.

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> So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the

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> stuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one's

> addressed that issue.

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> I bought Welch's new organic kind.

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> etoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r

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hi m,me too,i had to drop today and drop when i get back but they do let me out of the country for good behavior every once in a while..regards,r. carolandalynn <carolandalynn@...> wrote: They're letting you out of the country? Ha, ha-have a great time-nothing new with me--just waiting--I was called to test today-yuck-there goes my nice weekend. Re: Re: Resveratrol Bon voyage, Robin. You'll be missed.robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: anything with sugar ferments judy...since the skin is protein does not

ferment... fresh grape juice is great,probably not as concentrated as pills or as strong..remember that if old apple juice can inc EtG,old grape juice probably will too,i am going overseas for a couple of weeks will be out of pocket mostly so my posting will be very spotty...hang in there,guys...regards,r Judy <floridajudygru (DOT) net> wrote: It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, itshouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the goodstuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one'saddressed that issue.I bought Welch's new organic kind.>> derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation noetoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r > Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates.

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thanks everybody...if i hit a wifi zone i will try to check in...regards,thanks all,r nautiques5 <nautiques5@...> wrote: Robin, I don't have my bags packed yet...don't leave without me!!! :)Have a GREAT time....we'll miss you! > >> >

derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation no> etoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r > >>

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robin: enjoy:)..........joyrobin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: hi m,me too,i had to drop today and drop when i get back but they do let me out of the country for good behavior every once in a while..regards,r. carolandalynn <carolandalynnsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: They're letting you out of the

country? Ha, ha-have a great time-nothing new with me--just waiting--I was called to test today-yuck-there goes my nice weekend. Re: Re: Resveratrol Bon voyage, Robin. You'll be missed.robin murray <remurraymd > wrote: anything with sugar ferments judy...since the skin is protein does not ferment... fresh grape juice is great,probably not as concentrated as pills or as strong..remember that if old apple juice can inc EtG,old grape juice probably will too,i am going overseas for a couple of weeks will be out of pocket mostly so my posting will be very spotty...hang in there,guys...regards,r Judy <floridajudygru (DOT) net> wrote: It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, itshouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the goodstuff found

in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one'saddressed that issue.I bought Welch's new organic kind.>> derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation noetoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards,r > Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates.

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safe travels Robin.

Got the re-test of my "failure" back. Negative. They did a GCMS.

Chris

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Bon voyage, Robin. You'll be missed.robin murray <remurraymd (DOT) com> wrote:

anything with sugar ferments judy...since the skin is protein does not ferment...

fresh grape juice is great,probably not as concentrated as pills or as strong..remember that if old apple juice can inc EtG,old grape juice probably

will too,i am going overseas for a couple of weeks will be out of pocket mostly

so my posting will be very spotty...hang in there,guys.. .regards, r

Judy <floridajudy@ gru.net> wrote:

It strikes that since resveratrol is found in the grape *skins*, itshouldn't matter if it's fermented or not.So wouldn't a glass of good old Welch's grape juice have all the goodstuff found in red wine, without the hazards? I wonder why no one'saddressed that issue.I bought Welch's new organic kind.>> derived from the skin,not the grape judy,no fermentation noetoh...etoh not listed ingredient,prob. ok...regards, r >

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Have been taking beyond-a-century's resveratrol about a year and before that

Jarrows for a couple years. Don't think these brands are nearly as potent as

Longevinex's but they are cheaper. Seems to reduce constitutional fatigue.

Steve B.

<rhbailey@...> wrote: Hi all,

The Nov. 17 New York Times had an article on resveratrol (found in tiny

amounts in red wine) that sounds promising. It says that it can

initiate a genetic mechanism known to protect mice against the

degenerative diseases of aging and prolong their life spans by 30%.

The researcher attributes this in large part to the significantly

increased number of mitochondria in muscle cells.

The article also speaks of a group of enzymes called sirtuins that

resveratrol is believed to activate. The theory is that sirtuins sense

the level of energy expenditure in living cells. One researcher

theorizes that sirtuin activates PGC1-alpha which stimulates cells to

produce more mitochondria.

The researchers themselves are taking 40 milligram capsules of

resveratrol, made by Longevinex. I checked that website, and there's a

waiting list.

I also checked this list to see if anyone has tried resveratrol, and

found posts by el and Deb Obrien. and Deb, what do

you think? Have you got more mitochondria? (joke) There are good

animal studies on this stuff.

Sue ,

Upstate New York

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el <andreafrankel@...>

I use a variety of different

capsules: bilberry, cherry, grape seed extract, zeaxanthin, lutein,

luteolin, forskolin, green tea extract (decaffeinated),

Indole-3-carbinol, resveratrol...

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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:45:28 -0700

From: " deb obrien " <DebOB@...>

Subject: andrographis

hi steven - andrographis is part of stephen buhner's core protocol -

he's written a very good book - HEALING LYME - he combines it with

resveratrol

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Sue I am confused;

I thought they said there was some real obstacle to taking enough to make a

difference.(CAn't produce the quantities needed yet?)

Adrienne

resveratrol

Hi all,

The Nov. 17 New York Times had an article on resveratrol (found in tiny

amounts in red wine) that sounds promising. It says that it can

initiate a genetic mechanism known to protect mice against the

degenerative diseases of aging and prolong their life spans by 30%.

The researcher attributes this in large part to the significantly

increased number of mitochondria in muscle cells.

The article also speaks of a group of enzymes called sirtuins that

resveratrol is believed to activate. The theory is that sirtuins sense

the level of energy expenditure in living cells. One researcher

theorizes that sirtuin activates PGC1-alpha which stimulates cells to

produce more mitochondria.

The researchers themselves are taking 40 milligram capsules of

resveratrol, made by Longevinex. I checked that website, and there's a

waiting list.

I also checked this list to see if anyone has tried resveratrol, and

found posts by el and Deb Obrien. and Deb, what do

you think? Have you got more mitochondria? (joke) There are good

animal studies on this stuff.

Sue ,

Upstate New York

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If you use the Source Naturals, you get no grape juice or wine. It's

derived from a completely different plant. I do sometimes get

headaches from red wine and hard cheese, but had no problems with the

Source Naturals Resveratrol, the one that says 40 mg, which is made

from Japanese knotweed.

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> Hello Everyone..can someone please tell me if its ok to take the

> Restroval if you get migraines from red wine? I thought that was the

> ingredient in red wine that causes migraines. Also does anyone know

> where I can buy the herbs in Vancouver? Thank you

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I stopped taking the Source Naturals Resveratrol ever since they added

the red wine ingredient

due to sulfate / wine allergies. Has anyone found an equivalent in a

supplement form by

another brand? Something without a log of allergens, fillers,

additives, etc?

I am not looking to buy bulk herbs or do any encapsulations.

Thanks,

Steve

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hi Steve,

I've been using RevGenetics Resveratrol for some time with good

success. They have a variety of strengths. I use the R300 which

uses just Polygonum Cuspidatum. Go to RevGenetics.com

I hope that helps.

good luck,

Judy

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> I stopped taking the Source Naturals Resveratrol ever since they added

> the red wine ingredient

> due to sulfate / wine allergies. Has anyone found an equivalent in a

> supplement form by

> another brand? Something without a log of allergens, fillers,

> additives, etc?

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> I am not looking to buy bulk herbs or do any encapsulations.

>

> Thanks,

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> Steve

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Yes

source natural is making the classic again with out the red wine.

 

 

sn2423 I think,

 

ask the company where you get, as most have it back in stock now.

 

   

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> Yes

> source natural is making the classic again with out the red wine.

Wow. i didn't know that.

Does anyone know an on-line source that definitely has the " new old

version "

in stock?

Steve

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Note: VitaCost does not have the original red wine-free Source Naturals

Resveratrol. Their online catalog is misleading ... apparently has not been

updated and does not reflect the product that they will send you. I ordered it

and was sent the new red wine version which I now have to return. Very annoying

.... no truth in advertising.

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www.iherb.com carries the " classic " no red wine extract version and offers

quantity discounts!

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Note: VitaCost does not have the original red wine-free Source Naturals

Resveratrol. Their online catalog is misleading ... apparently has not been

updated and does not reflect the product that they will send you. I ordered it

and was sent the new red wine version which I now have to return. Very annoying

.... no truth in advertising.

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