Guest guest Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 Hi , That's a terrible ordeal that you went through. You can't trust doctor's to figure things out for you. I found that Bart lowered my hormones, but may-be the opposite can happen too. When I got LD my first symptoms were hormonal imbalances and fatigue, so I went to doctors for that and got on Armour Thyroid and more estrogen. I didn't know I had Lyme. I thought I was feeling bad because of the hormonal imbalance. When that supposedly was corrected my hot flashes and other symptoms disappeared, but I was still feeling bad, so I thought Adrenal fatigue, but that was not either. Now I am on progesterone as well. I had a hysterectomy too. I haven't noticed any difference in the Bart symptoms because of the increase in hormones that I take, but mine were minimal. I would guess that your body might be very sensitive now after your horrific ordeal with hormone overload for such a long time. I would be very curious how this turns out for you. How did you do without HRT? If your hormone levels were ok and you didn't have any hormonal symptoms, why change? It is safer to be on both estrogen and progesterone even if you have had a hysterectomy, as you have to think about your breasts as well. Let me know what happens. What a roller coaster ride!! Love and Light, Maud On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:52 AM, MG wrote: > > Hi Again > > So I had a total hysterectomy in 2001 for stage 1 ovarian cancer and Endometriosis. Then I had what I thought was a hard time with bioidentical HRT, but now know it was the LD. I then had a doctor who gave me the up and coming " pellets " of hormones implanted in my hip. He never 1 time in 5 years took my hormone levels even though I kept asking. He said he didnt need to because they would only release as much as my body needed. I had no money and no insurance to go elsewhere so I trusted he knew what he was doing. The pellets were supposed to last 4-6 months but I went in every month with what I though were menopause symptoms. I now know they were Bart symptoms. He kept giving me more pellets every month. > > When I started having low thyroid symptoms and adrenal issues I begged him to please draw all the specialty thyroid tests. He did and I was Hypo with reverse T3 syndrome. Armed with this diagnosis I found a specialist and spent my life saving seeing them for 3 years. They are the ones who missed the lyme diagnosis even though they also see Lyme patients as Endocrinologists who specialize in Bio Hormones/Endocrine and Auto Immune diseases. When they drew my hormone levels my estrogen was 2,487 and normal range is 70-200. It took me 11 months to crash off of all that estrogen and testosterone. > > I was then terrified to take any hormones because when i did my head would hurt and I felt like poison was running through my veins (It was the LD reacting to it). So fast forward to today since my LD diagnosis. My LLND wanted me to take a very small dose to help my body be more stable going thorugh this. So I got the creams and I tried the tiny bit night before last and my Bart symptoms flared real bad and I was terrified. Does anyone know if this might settle down as my body adjusts to the chemical change? Will it make more bugs? I hear such conflicting reports as to weather we need them or not. I had been HRT free for 18 months before this. Sorry so long I am just a little confused. Thank you for any advice. > > Blessings > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 hi Maud, thanky ou for your posts Having a hard day today after the epinephrine in the dental shot for my 5 fillings. i also have had to be off my herbs for 3 days because of doing a stool culture and saliva tests. I don't have any mood swings or hot flashes due to menopause at all. On good lyme days I even have a libido.I have not been on HRT for 18 months now and maintain a very strict diet, rest and mild excercise while supporting my adrenals. the ND told me that maybe adding the hormones would help my sleep etc. but upon taking them Thursday night my heart was racing, I vomited 3 times, my breasts hurt real bad and I was tossing and turning all night. They are both tiny little doses and I know there is an adjustment period, but I just felt so very horrible. Im wondering if I should try it again for 2 consecutive days, but I don't know. I am just really confused right now and a little down(Im assuming because I have not taken my herbs in a few days). I read all over the place that post menopausal women without proper hormone ratios have a harder time with lyme and treatment which is why I agreed to do them. I am going to get a massage now and meditate hoping it helps. Thank you so very much for all of your help. Love and Light > > Hi Again > > So I had a total hysterectomy in 2001 for stage 1 ovarian cancer and Endometriosis. Then I had what I thought was a hard time with bioidentical HRT, but now know it was the LD. I then had a doctor who gave me the up and coming " pellets " of hormones implanted in my hip. He never 1 time in 5 years took my hormone levels even though I kept asking. He said he didnt need to because they would only release as much as my body needed. I had no money and no insurance to go elsewhere so I trusted he knew what he was doing. The pellets were supposed to last 4-6 months but I went in every month with what I though were menopause symptoms. I now know they were Bart symptoms. He kept giving me more pellets every month. > > When I started having low thyroid symptoms and adrenal issues I begged him to please draw all the specialty thyroid tests. He did and I was Hypo with reverse T3 syndrome. Armed with this diagnosis I found a specialist and spent my life saving seeing them for 3 years. They are the ones who missed the lyme diagnosis even though they also see Lyme patients as Endocrinologists who specialize in Bio Hormones/Endocrine and Auto Immune diseases. When they drew my hormone levels my estrogen was 2,487 and normal range is 70-200. It took me 11 months to crash off of all that estrogen and testosterone. > > I was then terrified to take any hormones because when i did my head would hurt and I felt like poison was running through my veins (It was the LD reacting to it). So fast forward to today since my LD diagnosis. My LLND wanted me to take a very small dose to help my body be more stable going thorugh this. So I got the creams and I tried the tiny bit night before last and my Bart symptoms flared real bad and I was terrified. Does anyone know if this might settle down as my body adjusts to the chemical change? Will it make more bugs? I hear such conflicting reports as to weather we need them or not. I had been HRT free for 18 months before this. Sorry so long I am just a little confused. Thank you for any advice. > > Blessings > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 - I hope today is better. I do take the bio-identicals and for me, they help hugely. sleep...mood. and the rage I believe. Talk to the doc about taking them at different times. Do you use melatonin at night? I have had to Sun-TH and Sunday nights I have to drug myself to sleep or I will stress out and stay awake. Like we talked about, you do what you have to to live and put a roof over our heads. I have never heard of hormones making on vomit. Do you easily vomit? Could it be something else that upset you? Keep that log and look for patterns. That seems to help me. First I feel like I'm doing something and secondly some patterns start to show up - the analytical side of me! _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [ ] HRT and LD hi Maud, thanky ou for your posts Having a hard day today after the epinephrine in the dental shot for my 5 fillings. i also have had to be off my herbs for 3 days because of doing a stool culture and saliva tests. I don't have any mood swings or hot flashes due to menopause at all. On good lyme days I even have a libido.I have not been on HRT for 18 months now and maintain a very strict diet, rest and mild excercise while supporting my adrenals. the ND told me that maybe adding the hormones would help my sleep etc. but upon taking them Thursday night my heart was racing, I vomited 3 times, my breasts hurt real bad and I was tossing and turning all night. They are both tiny little doses and I know there is an adjustment period, but I just felt so very horrible. Im wondering if I should try it again for 2 consecutive days, but I don't know. I am just really confused right now and a little down(Im assuming because I have not taken my herbs in a few days). I read all over the place that post menopausal women without proper hormone ratios have a harder time with lyme and treatment which is why I agreed to do them. I am going to get a massage now and meditate hoping it helps. Thank you so very much for all of your help. Love and Light > > Hi Again > > So I had a total hysterectomy in 2001 for stage 1 ovarian cancer and Endometriosis. Then I had what I thought was a hard time with bioidentical HRT, but now know it was the LD. I then had a doctor who gave me the up and coming " pellets " of hormones implanted in my hip. He never 1 time in 5 years took my hormone levels even though I kept asking. He said he didnt need to because they would only release as much as my body needed. I had no money and no insurance to go elsewhere so I trusted he knew what he was doing. The pellets were supposed to last 4-6 months but I went in every month with what I though were menopause symptoms. I now know they were Bart symptoms. He kept giving me more pellets every month. > > When I started having low thyroid symptoms and adrenal issues I begged him to please draw all the specialty thyroid tests. He did and I was Hypo with reverse T3 syndrome. Armed with this diagnosis I found a specialist and spent my life saving seeing them for 3 years. They are the ones who missed the lyme diagnosis even though they also see Lyme patients as Endocrinologists who specialize in Bio Hormones/Endocrine and Auto Immune diseases. When they drew my hormone levels my estrogen was 2,487 and normal range is 70-200. It took me 11 months to crash off of all that estrogen and testosterone. > > I was then terrified to take any hormones because when i did my head would hurt and I felt like poison was running through my veins (It was the LD reacting to it). So fast forward to today since my LD diagnosis. My LLND wanted me to take a very small dose to help my body be more stable going thorugh this. So I got the creams and I tried the tiny bit night before last and my Bart symptoms flared real bad and I was terrified. Does anyone know if this might settle down as my body adjusts to the chemical change? Will it make more bugs? I hear such conflicting reports as to weather we need them or not. I had been HRT free for 18 months before this. Sorry so long I am just a little confused. Thank you for any advice. > > Blessings > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 nancy,  having a hard time with dental work friday and then being off my herbs for 3 days for stool/saliva tests. Then tonight part of my tooth thye worked on broke off and im in pain...will it ever end? UGH. Below is what Dr. Lee Cowden said about HRT in my case because I have been off them for 18 months and to start them now would set my reocvery back as the flutuations until stable would cause the bug to go nuts....hugs  " Borrelia & co-infections can slow hormone metabolism by the liver & can alter hormone receptor function. It's probably best to not add HRT back in until the bugs are under better control (that usually happens around day 78 of the Condensed Program). The best way to deal with Herx is to take 8 drops of Burbur or 8 drops of Parsley Detox in 1/2 cup of water every 10-15 minutes for 1-2 hours. Dr. Cowden " > > Hi Again > > So I had a total hysterectomy in 2001 for stage 1 ovarian cancer and Endometriosis. Then I had what I thought was a hard time with bioidentical HRT, but now know it was the LD. I then had a doctor who gave me the up and coming " pellets " of hormones implanted in my hip. He never 1 time in 5 years took my hormone levels even though I kept asking. He said he didnt need to because they would only release as much as my body needed. I had no money and no insurance to go elsewhere so I trusted he knew what he was doing. The pellets were supposed to last 4-6 months but I went in every month with what I though were menopause symptoms. I now know they were Bart symptoms. He kept giving me more pellets every month. > > When I started having low thyroid symptoms and adrenal issues I begged him to please draw all the specialty thyroid tests. He did and I was Hypo with reverse T3 syndrome. Armed with this diagnosis I found a specialist and spent my life saving seeing them for 3 years. They are the ones who missed the lyme diagnosis even though they also see Lyme patients as Endocrinologists who specialize in Bio Hormones/Endocrine and Auto Immune diseases. When they drew my hormone levels my estrogen was 2,487 and normal range is 70-200. It took me 11 months to crash off of all that estrogen and testosterone. > > I was then terrified to take any hormones because when i did my head would hurt and I felt like poison was running through my veins (It was the LD reacting to it). So fast forward to today since my LD diagnosis. My LLND wanted me to take a very small dose to help my body be more stable going thorugh this. So I got the creams and I tried the tiny bit night before last and my Bart symptoms flared real bad and I was terrified. Does anyone know if this might settle down as my body adjusts to the chemical change? Will it make more bugs? I hear such conflicting reports as to weather we need them or not. I had been HRT free for 18 months before this. Sorry so long I am just a little confused. Thank you for any advice. > > Blessings > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I have read that some people are allergic to hormones even their own. I know there is a way around it, but I don't know what it is. Connie Re: [ ] HRT and LD hi Maud, thanky ou for your posts Having a hard day today after the epinephrine in the dental shot for my 5 fillings. i also have had to be off my herbs for 3 days because of doing a stool culture and saliva tests. I don't have any mood swings or hot flashes due to menopause at all. On good lyme days I even have a libido.I have not been on HRT for 18 months now and maintain a very strict diet, rest and mild excercise while supporting my adrenals. the ND told me that maybe adding the hormones would help my sleep etc. but upon taking them Thursday night my heart was racing, I vomited 3 times, my breasts hurt real bad and I was tossing and turning all night. They are both tiny little doses and I know there is an adjustment period, but I just felt so very horrible. Im wondering if I should try it again for 2 consecutive days, but I don't know. I am just really confused right now and a little down(Im assuming because I have not taken my herbs in a few days). I read all over the place that post menopausal women without proper hormone ratios have a harder time with lyme and treatment which is why I agreed to do them. I am going to get a massage now and meditate hoping it helps. Thank you so very much for all of your help. Love and Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Hi , The doctor told me that if you have any amalgams or mercury in your system that you will not be able to get rid of Lyme. I don't know if it is true. I got rid of all my amalgams and lowered my level of mercury in my blood to almost undetectable amounts and they still wanted to do IV detox with DMPS, which is very dangerous. I refused to go that route, but getting rid of amalgams is a good idea, I think. Good luck with having all that dental work done. I never knew you could have all these problems with Novocaine and Epinephrine. So sorry that you had to go through that. Love and light. Maud On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Connie Blaze wrote: > I have read that some people are allergic to hormones even their own. I know there is a way around it, but I don't know what it is. > > Connie > > Re: [ ] HRT and LD > > hi Maud, > > thanky ou for your posts Having a hard day today after the epinephrine in the dental shot for my 5 fillings. i also have had to be off my herbs for 3 days because of doing a stool culture and saliva tests. I don't have any mood swings or hot flashes due to menopause at all. On good lyme days I even have a libido.I have not been on HRT for 18 months now and maintain a very strict diet, rest and mild excercise while supporting my adrenals. the ND told me that maybe adding the hormones would help my sleep etc. but upon taking them Thursday night my heart was racing, I vomited 3 times, my breasts hurt real bad and I was tossing and turning all night. They are both tiny little doses and I know there is an adjustment period, but I just felt so very horrible. Im wondering if I should try it again for 2 consecutive days, but I don't know. I am just really confused right now and a little down(Im assuming because I have not taken my herbs in a few days). I read > all over the place that post menopausal women without proper hormone ratios have a harder time with lyme and treatment which is why I agreed to do them. I am going to get a massage now and meditate hoping it helps. Thank you so very much for all of your help. > > Love and Light > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 > > Hi , > > The doctor told me that if you have any amalgams or mercury in your system that you will not be able to get rid of Lyme. I don't know if it is true. of course it is not true, it would be quite obvious if there was such a difference in lyme disease recovery between people with or without amalgams. I agree that amalgams are a potential health concern, but it can't be so dangerous as many ND's in the US are suggesting. There are plenty of people with amalgams and perfect health (and very ill people with no amalgams at all). Just last week I read a new article about dangerous chemicals leaking out of new composite fillings. Everything unnatural that is put in your mouth is a health risk, especially if it has chemical properties that help it 'resist the bugs'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Hi and I am mostly lurking (sorry) but did want to mention that in my recent research on Porphyria...which I believe is complicating the Lyme recovery for some....I have learned that hormone replacement is not for everyone. Hormone replacement can push a person with Porphyria into an acute stage and nausea is one of the many symptoms of Porphyria. There are 8 different forms of Porphyria and some are inherited, some are caused by the infections and /or mercury and some are triggered by prescription medications including hormone replacement. There are many lists of drugs contraindicated by those with Porphyria which you can pull up on a search. Just in case, On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:30 PM, <wilson33@...> wrote: > > > - I hope today is better. I do take the bio-identicals and for me, > they help hugely. sleep...mood. and the rage I believe. Talk to the doc > about taking them at different times. Do you use melatonin at night? I have > had to Sun-TH and Sunday nights I have to drug myself to sleep or I will > stress out and stay awake. > > Like we talked about, you do what you have to to live and put a roof over > our heads. > > I have never heard of hormones making on vomit. Do you easily vomit? Could > it be something else that upset you? Keep that log and look for patterns. > That seems to help me. First I feel like I'm doing something and secondly > some patterns start to show up - the analytical side of me! > > > > _____ > > From: < %40> > [mailto: < %40>] > On Behalf Of MG > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:44 PM > < %40> > Subject: Re: [ ] HRT and LD > > hi Maud, > > thanky ou for your posts Having a hard day today after the epinephrine > in > the dental shot for my 5 fillings. i also have had to be off my herbs for 3 > days because of doing a stool culture and saliva tests. I don't have any > mood swings or hot flashes due to menopause at all. On good lyme days I > even > have a libido.I have not been on HRT for 18 months now and maintain a very > strict diet, rest and mild excercise while supporting my adrenals. the ND > told me that maybe adding the hormones would help my sleep etc. but upon > taking them Thursday night my heart was racing, I vomited 3 times, my > breasts hurt real bad and I was tossing and turning all night. They are > both > tiny little doses and I know there is an adjustment period, but I just felt > so very horrible. Im wondering if I should try it again for 2 consecutive > days, but I don't know. I am just really confused right now and a little > down(Im assuming because I have not taken my herbs in a few days). I read > all over the place that post menopausal women without proper hormone ratios > have a harder time with lyme and treatment which is why I agreed to do > them. > I am going to get a massage now and meditate hoping it helps. Thank you so > very much for all of your help. > > Love and Light > > > > > > > > Hi Again > > > > So I had a total hysterectomy in 2001 for stage 1 ovarian cancer and > Endometriosis. Then I had what I thought was a hard time with bioidentical > HRT, but now know it was the LD. I then had a doctor who gave me the up and > coming " pellets " of hormones implanted in my hip. He never 1 time in 5 > years > took my hormone levels even though I kept asking. He said he didnt need to > because they would only release as much as my body needed. I had no money > and no insurance to go elsewhere so I trusted he knew what he was doing. > The > pellets were supposed to last 4-6 months but I went in every month with > what > I though were menopause symptoms. I now know they were Bart symptoms. He > kept giving me more pellets every month. > > > > When I started having low thyroid symptoms and adrenal issues I begged > him > to please draw all the specialty thyroid tests. He did and I was Hypo with > reverse T3 syndrome. Armed with this diagnosis I found a specialist and > spent my life saving seeing them for 3 years. They are the ones who missed > the lyme diagnosis even though they also see Lyme patients as > Endocrinologists who specialize in Bio Hormones/Endocrine and Auto Immune > diseases. When they drew my hormone levels my estrogen was 2,487 and normal > range is 70-200. It took me 11 months to crash off of all that estrogen and > testosterone. > > > > I was then terrified to take any hormones because when i did my head > would > hurt and I felt like poison was running through my veins (It was the LD > reacting to it). So fast forward to today since my LD diagnosis. My LLND > wanted me to take a very small dose to help my body be more stable going > thorugh this. So I got the creams and I tried the tiny bit night before > last > and my Bart symptoms flared real bad and I was terrified. Does anyone know > if this might settle down as my body adjusts to the chemical change? Will > it > make more bugs? I hear such conflicting reports as to weather we need them > or not. I had been HRT free for 18 months before this. Sorry so long I am > just a little confused. Thank you for any advice. > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Here's what I found on porphyria Porphyrias are a group of genetic disorders caused by problems with how your body makes a substance called heme. Heme is found throughout the body, especially in your blood and bone marrow, where it carries oxygen. Porphyrias affect the skin or the nervous system. People with the skin type develop blisters, itching, and swelling of their skin when it is exposed to sunlight. The nervous system type is called acute porphyria. Symptoms include pain in the chest or abdomen, vomiting, and diarrhea or constipation. During an attack, symptoms can include muscle numbness, tingling, paralysis, cramping, and personality or mental changes. Certain triggers can cause an attack, including some medicines, smoking, drinking alcohol, infections, stress and sun exposure. Attacks develop over hours or days. They can last for days or weeks. Porphyria can be hard to diagnose. It requires blood, urine and stool tests. Each type has a different treatment. It usually involves medicine, treatment with heme or drawing blood. For me - not having estrogen makes me not a nice person to be around...:-)...therfore, in the interest of society, I am taking my bio-identicals. but I can see using something like horse urine, one's body might not be happy. W Re: [ ] HRT and LD Hi and I am mostly lurking (sorry) but did want to mention that in my recent research on Porphyria...which I believe is complicating the Lyme recovery for some....I have learned that hormone replacement is not for everyone. Hormone replacement can push a person with Porphyria into an acute stage and nausea is one of the many symptoms of Porphyria. There are 8 different forms of Porphyria and some are inherited, some are caused by the infections and /or mercury and some are triggered by prescription medications including hormone replacement. There are many lists of drugs contraindicated by those with Porphyria which you can pull up on a search. Just in case, On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:30 PM, <wilson33@...> wrote: > > > - I hope today is better. I do take the bio-identicals and for > me, they help hugely. sleep...mood. and the rage I believe. Talk to > the doc about taking them at different times. Do you use melatonin at > night? I have had to Sun-TH and Sunday nights I have to drug myself to > sleep or I will stress out and stay awake. > > Like we talked about, you do what you have to to live and put a roof > over our heads. > > I have never heard of hormones making on vomit. Do you easily vomit? > Could it be something else that upset you? Keep that log and look for patterns. > That seems to help me. First I feel like I'm doing something and > secondly some patterns start to show up - the analytical side of me! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Yes I agree unless you had Porphyria and then it would be contraindicated....if you are feeling better...I would doubt you need to worry but it was the nausea which caused me to mention it , On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:39 AM, <wilson33@...> wrote: > > > Here's what I found on porphyria > > Porphyrias are a group of genetic disorders caused by problems with how > your > body makes a substance called heme. Heme is found throughout the body, > especially in your blood and bone marrow, where it carries oxygen. > > Porphyrias affect the skin or the nervous system. People with the skin type > develop blisters, itching, and swelling of their skin when it is exposed to > sunlight. The nervous system type is called acute porphyria. Symptoms > include pain in the chest or abdomen, vomiting, and diarrhea or > constipation. During an attack, symptoms can include muscle numbness, > tingling, paralysis, cramping, and personality or mental changes. Certain > triggers can cause an attack, including some medicines, smoking, drinking > alcohol, infections, stress and sun exposure. Attacks develop over hours or > days. They can last for days or weeks. > > Porphyria can be hard to diagnose. It requires blood, urine and stool > tests. > Each type has a different treatment. It usually involves medicine, > treatment > with heme or drawing blood. > > For me - not having estrogen makes me not a nice person to be > around...:-)...therfore, in the interest of society, I am taking my > bio-identicals. but I can see using something like horse urine, one's body > might not be happy. > > W > > > Re: [ ] HRT and LD > > Hi and > > I am mostly lurking (sorry) but did want to mention that in my recent > research on Porphyria...which I believe is complicating the Lyme recovery > for some....I have learned that hormone replacement is not for everyone. > Hormone replacement can push a person with Porphyria into an acute stage > and > nausea is one of the many symptoms of Porphyria. There are 8 different > forms > of Porphyria and some are inherited, some are caused by the infections and > /or mercury and some are triggered by prescription medications including > hormone replacement. There are many lists of drugs contraindicated by those > with Porphyria which you can pull up on a search. > > Just in case, > > > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:30 PM, <wilson33@...<wilson33%40sonic.net>> > wrote: > > > > > > > - I hope today is better. I do take the bio-identicals and for > > me, they help hugely. sleep...mood. and the rage I believe. Talk to > > the doc about taking them at different times. Do you use melatonin at > > night? I have had to Sun-TH and Sunday nights I have to drug myself to > > sleep or I will stress out and stay awake. > > > > Like we talked about, you do what you have to to live and put a roof > > over our heads. > > > > I have never heard of hormones making on vomit. Do you easily vomit? > > Could it be something else that upset you? Keep that log and look for > patterns. > > That seems to help me. First I feel like I'm doing something and > > secondly some patterns start to show up - the analytical side of me! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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