Bartonella

[Guest guest]

I'll tell you what i do for Bart (which i never tested positive for, and had

almost no recognizable symptoms of)---

I run Bart frequencies on my rife machine every day or every other day :

3 minutes on 832 Herz, and a 5 minute sweep from 831 to 834 Herz.

This keeps the head symptoms down (wooziness). It works well enough.

However, i think i'll try selma's herbs. Her herbs are relative, not absolute:

i.e., her treatment depended on muscle testing, kinesiology, which told her

which herb she should or shouldn't take. She asked her muscles for their

consent before choosing each herb to take. When she mentions " tests " she means

these muscle tests, do her muscles agree or disagree.

---purpleffoxglove@...

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From: Keys <aldo@...>

purpleffoxglove@...

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 2:01:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Bartonella

Hi there - I read your post about someone that cured themself of Bart. I'm

pretty convinced that I have that due to my sore feet, anxiety and even stretch

marks that appeared a few weeks ago. [the infectious disease doc was not]

How could I go about contacting that woman Selma? I am very excited

about taking some herbs that target Bart.

Thank you very much for any help you can give me. Keys in

VT

[Guest guest]

What type of machine do you have? I have a GB 2000, do you have that one?

From: purple ffoxglove <purpleffoxglove@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Bartonella

Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 6:28 PM

 

I'll tell you what i do for Bart (which i never tested positive for, and

had

almost no recognizable symptoms of)---

I run Bart frequencies on my rife machine every day or every other day :

3 minutes on 832 Herz, and a 5 minute sweep from 831 to 834 Herz.

This keeps the head symptoms down (wooziness). It works well enough.

However, i think i'll try selma's herbs. Her herbs are relative, not absolute:

i.e., her treatment depended on muscle testing, kinesiology, which told her

which herb she should or shouldn't take. She asked her muscles for their

consent before choosing each herb to take. When she mentions " tests " she means

these muscle tests, do her muscles agree or disagree.

---purpleffoxglove@...

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From: Keys <aldo@...>

purpleffoxglove@...

Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 2:01:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Bartonella

Hi there - I read your post about someone that cured themself of Bart. I'm

pretty convinced that I have that due to my sore feet, anxiety and even stretch

marks that appeared a few weeks ago. [the infectious disease doc was not]

How could I go about contacting that woman Selma? I am very excited

about taking some herbs that target Bart.

Thank you very much for any help you can give me. Keys in

VT

[Guest guest]

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> I have read that Bartonella can be desribed as a " cat scratch disease " , but

there is also a tick associated strain of Bartonella and it is the most common

tick-borne pathogen.

yes, those are different species, and there are other Bart species. I guess the

Bart tests are just as unreliable as those for Bb.

[Guest guest]

I've seen this posted before... but instead of Bartonella... it says babs.

Which one dd she treat using these herbs?

Here's the link btw...

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/58343?#000024

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> Here's a quote about selma's herbs; sorry, it was phellodendron, not

> phyllodendron:

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>

>

> Some people are writing me to ask what I took for bartonella. I'm just

> copy-pasting what I wrote in Buhner's forum. Remember this was 'created' by

> myself only using energetic testing (kinesiology). I'm not a doctor.

>

> I suffered from chronic bartonella since 2005, got reinfected recently in May

> with acute bart.

>

>

> I thought I got rid of it, but yesterday I went to my lyme doctor who also

does

> energetic testing (ART) and he couldn't find it initially. I told him, 'check

> if they're not hiding'.

>

>

> He couldn't find borrelia, nor bart, nor mycoplasma, babesia, intestinal

> candida, nothing. He then checked at the back of my skull and then found

> finally: bartonella, borrelia and ehrlichia. Nowhere else in my body, he could

> find tick-born pathogens.

>

>

> He was amazed to see how well I got, he said he thought I was going to fall

> downwards after the recent reinfection. He said he's NEVER seen someone with

> chronic lyme getting better so fast after reinfection like I did. I feel

great,

> I'm hiking and kayaking again!

>

> My killing protocol was designed this time 100% by myself, only using

> kinesiology.

>

> Anyway, I'm still not rid of bart, still taking things for it, which I'll add

> in the end of this copy-pasted post. I had it all over my body, joints,

> muscles, now it's reduced to a small part of my body.

>

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> Here's then my bartonella protocol, aproximately:

>

> - phellodendron, decoction 5-7 minutes: gets bart and many other pathogens

>

> - artemisia annua decoction (separate from other decoctions): about 3

teaspoons

> if I remember well: cook it for a while (about 5 minutes?):

> it gets bart.

>

> - astragalus test good against bart: I took decoctions and/ or Planetary

> formula (about 1-2 pills a day)

>

> - bee polen: gets bartonela (plus borrelia cysts and bab's cysts); I took if

I

> remember well, about 2-3 tea spoons a day diluted in water/

> soya milk

>

> - lonicerae caulis, decoction 7 minutes: gets bart and babesia (I took it in

> the very end only)

>

> - KMT program 1

>

> - frozen garlic: 2 -3 a day (can't remember)

>

> - amargo (rain-tree): gets bart, babesia and borrelia: I think I took about 2

> " 00 " capsules a day.

>

> - immunomodulators that may help: cats claw, jap. knotweed

>

> - isatis, folium & forsythia test good against bartonela, but I didn't take

> these this time because phelodendron + frozen garlic +

> lonicerae were good enough (I didn't need to add isatis/ forsythia).

>

> Remember that I was my own 'doctor', so no one prescribed me these stuff, I

> tested amounts by myself and showed to my doctor who told

> me: " Go on " . He re-tested for me (ART) the new herbs I never had taken

before,

> phellodendron tested very good. I'm skinny and very

> sensitive to herbs/ medicine, so 'normal' people would need more, I guess.

>

> Very 'constant' herbs in this second reinfection for me were (including other

> pathogens, not only for bart though):

>

> - cats claw, whole herb

> - Japanese knotweed decoction

> - phellodendron

> - gardenia

> - gervao (rain-tree)

>

> These herbs tested good for a longer period of time (I'm now still on cats

> claw, knotweed and gardenia). Andrographis didn't test good,

> only for a few days!!! I took it more than a year for my first borrelia

> infection and it kept testing good, but not this time!

>

> Selma

> -----------

>

> Now (end of August 2007) what is testing against bartonella that I'm taking

is:

>

>

> - Japanese knotweed decoction

>

> - phellodendron decoction

>

> - eleutherococcus in powder (2 teaspoons a day): gets most of the infections

> indirectly (it's a profound tonic to the system)

>

> Selma

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> I'm just pulling this thread up as people keep asking me what I did for

> bartonella.

>

> I attacked bart 3 times. First time was by the end of 2006, but I didn't win

> the battle (I was using Rizols and other stuff I forgot, it must be here in

> lymenet though). It didn't do the job completely until May 2007, when I was

> awarded new bart re-infection....

>

>

> I naturally fell sick very fast, because the tick bite came fully infected

with

> ALL pathogens that my doctor tests energetically. My doctor said he has seen

> that before, so I didn't win a troffee.

>

> Then I decided to go on an emergency attack as I naturally got scared, as I

> felt quite sick again and that's what I wrote here up in this thread.

>

> I got rid of bart then chronic + acute infection with this treatment above.

It

> took sometime, but not too long as I was expecting. Then I went into

remission

> of lyme and co-infections for about 4 months.

>

> But bart went away AFTER babesia was gone. I always need to get rid of

babesia

> first before I get rid of anything else, as I get fully symptomatic of babs

and

> that knocks me down. That's what I did, and my babesia protocol is also

written

> here somewhere (under " alternative babesia herbs " or so).

>

> Then about November, after not sleeping more than 4 hours a day for a month

due

> to a job I was doing at home, I relapsed lightly. From borrelia, bart, and

> rickettsia.

>

> But it was very easy to get them again under control, I even didn't address

> bart specifically, I was more concerned with rickettsia as it was the only

> thing that was giving me symptoms (heart). But fortunately, it was also very

> short lived and again, I'm on about a month or more symptomless from lyme and

> co-infections.

>

> My only treatment now is a preventive treatment: 1 capsule astragalus AM, 1

> capsule cats claw AM, then some supplements just once a day like: chlorella,

> propolis drops, calcium, magnesium, Vit D, trace minerals. Sometimes milk

> thistle tests, and I take it, but it's about 2-3 times a week only. That's

all.

>

> I even got a chronic skin fungal infection under control that I got for more

> than a decade (pre-lyme), every winter. Still not sure it's really gone, as

I'm

> still on foot baths, but I'm symptomless from it (except for a dark purple

skin

> on previous local of infection on my hands and toes).

>

> I'm doing no anti-candida diet anymore, taking alcohol socially, and I

believe,

> even if lyme comes back because I do stupid things (like not sleeping for a

> month), I feel it won't be a big deal anymore IF treated fast. If untreated,

> I'm pretty sure I'll fall very sick again as I still don't trust my immune

> system.

>

> My whole bart treatment didn't cost a lot as all these Chinese herbs cost

very

> little in bulk. It's just time consuming, difficult schedule, but as for

cost,

> it's reasonably inexpensive.

>

> If anyone is willing to try the herbs, please try to read about them before

> and/or get someone to test them energetically. That's what I would do.

---selma

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> Up, as more people asking me what I took for bartonella.

>

> It seems it worked as I don't think I fought bart like I did during this

time.

> This was then my last fight with bart, that I remember.

>

> I might have gotten it 'testing' one time or another by my lyme doctor, but

> assymptomatic and anyway, it went dormant easily.

>

>

> The time I had to use all these herbs here was definitively what made my

> bartonella load very weak or dormant. ---selma

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