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Fred....

I'm so sorry. I'm signing off this list, but want to leave one last

msg. of comfort.

My husband Rich was the ICD guy here. Always figured he'd go first,

till I had a brain aneurysm explode in my head in Sept. 2003. Turns out

I got an incurable disease that causes them, and have more just hanging

around waiting to blow up. He passed away last week, and now I am alone

with this disease and no one to take care of me if something happens

like it did before. I'm very scared, too. And I miss him so much.

Please know that you are not alone in your fear, dear Fred. I share

it with you. You can write to me anytime you want: susie77@...

We'll get thru this together.

Blessings to you,

Sue

frdmwon wrote:

>

>

> i feel like my defibrllater is going to zp me ...my wife died

> last feb 4th she was very ill she taght school fo 30 years

> never missed a day of work eve when she had open heart surgry

> back when it was considered very dangerous operation.. im very

> scared most of th time and now im being treated for panic attacks

> does anyone out there suffer from the same problem im 61 and miss my

> wife very much ..we were always there for each other

> fred (frdmwon@...)

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She was not quite what you would call unrefined.

She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. "

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Fred

I have nothing but sympathy for you. I have not lost a wife but been thru all this with my icd. Been scared and anxious and I only got zapped 3 time the last one 2 yrs ago. but the first 6 months when I get zapped was like you described. What helpped me was anti anxiety meds, dr adjusting my heart med and long talk with my doctor and 3 sessions with a therapist. also this group of zappers helpped a great deal we all been thru it one way or the other.

hang in there thigs will improve believe it or not.

Bill And Zeus(my icd)frdmwon <frdmwon@...> wrote:

i feel like my defibrllater is going to zp me ...my wife diedlast feb 4th she was very ill she taght school fo 30 yearsnever missed a day of work eve when she had open heart surgryback when it was considered very dangerous operation.. im very scared most of th time and now im being treated for panic attacksdoes anyone out there suffer from the same problem im 61 and miss my wife very much ..we were always there for each other fred (frdmwon@...)Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

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Hi Sue

I'm new to the list, but am sorry for your loss.

I also think that the list can still benefit from the experience

of your life with Rich, as you offer the perspective of one that has

loved and lived with a partner with heart problems and an implant.

I'm sure that many on the list wonder how their problems affect

those that love and care for them.

Also I'm sure that you have made many friends on the list that

can provide comfort and support for you as well.

Just my two cents worth, if you do leave I'm sure the group

will miss you.

take care

Doug

http://riversidejazz.com/jazzer1/home.html

> Fred....

>

> I'm so sorry. I'm signing off this list, but want to leave one

last

> msg. of comfort.

>

> My husband Rich was the ICD guy here. Always figured he'd go

first,

> till I had a brain aneurysm explode in my head in Sept. 2003.

Turns out

> I got an incurable disease that causes them, and have more just

hanging

> around waiting to blow up. He passed away last week, and now I am

alone

> with this disease and no one to take care of me if something

happens

> like it did before. I'm very scared, too. And I miss him so much.

> Please know that you are not alone in your fear, dear Fred. I

share

> it with you. You can write to me anytime you want: susie77@n...

> We'll get thru this together.

> Blessings to you,

> Sue

>

>

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Dear Sue, What do you mean that you are leaving this group! That is simple not an option! What are you thinking? I will have to come and hunt you down and throw myself on the floor in front of you kicking and screaming and having a tantrum, this will not be a pretty site. So please won't you reconsider unless you have somewhere else that needs you more than we do please stay. We all need you!

Sharon in Ohio

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Thank you Carl, for this candid and touching testimony.

Since some years back, I too feel a connection that is always there. It's very comforting indeed. :-)

Inger

Being alone

Hi, Aspie friends,

Prompted by some of the inputs, I would like to comment on the problem of being alone.

There is a vast difference between being alone and being lonesome, though they sometimes coincide.

'you may be lonesome in the midst of a sea of people, who are not even indifferent to you. And you can be very much alone without being the least lonesome.

Though I discovered only about five years ago that I had always had Aspergers Syndrome - I have always known that I was different and the worst derogatory label I knew was "normal" - because "normal" defined as the medium of NT people was something, that I would never hope to become.

Now I thank God for my loneliness. Though it was hard to be mobbed and bullied and though I never quite understood the "game" of pretending to be inclusive. I have come to the very joyful and soothing insight that each of us (NT or AS alike) are so unique that we can never indeed reach eachothers deepest recesses.

The only one who really knows me and understands me is my Creator with whom I have had a very rewarding fellowship consciously since 1969. Even my faithful and beloved NT wife through more than thirty-three years together with whom I have had many wonderful and heartrending experiences, only knows a very little part of my being - though I have never attempted to hide anything for her (sometime causing considerable pain by my blunt honesty).

She also though she loves me with intense love is still a complete mystery to me. But it does not hinder me from loving her.

I even hardly know myself. There are so many recesses and subconscious motivations, that I sometime wonder what really makes me "tick".

But one thing I know for sure that my Creator and Redeemer knows me inside out.

This consciousness keeps me happy and alive. I started out as an atheist humanist, but while I studied physics and chemistry at the university of Copenhagen, it dawned on me that there was far too much order in the universe. Logically this order had to be instigated by some intelligence.

After years of vain search in religions I finally found an online connection to the Living God. This gave me access to eternity and a fathomless love.

I am now a very content and safe Aspie. Before I was often depressed and anxious, because I had no control. I still have rather little control, but I know that a person who loves me is in control. This assurance keeps me from depression and other mental troubles, which are much too common in the autistic spectrum.

I can heartily recommend that any Aspie get in touch with her or his creator because this is the only way to avoid loneliness - whether Aspie or neurotypical.

FYI for your information - feel free to ask

Thanx a lot

From

Carl Sukkot

Scribe,

Vesterbrogade 87,

1620 Copenhagen,

Denmark

Cscribe.dk

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http://www.cometutor.dk

Skype: Carl_Sukkot

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Hi,

what is this '...an online connection to the Living God.'? Could you

explain further please - is this some sort of website? You used the

term online so I wondered?

> Hi, Aspie friends,

>

>

>

> Prompted by some of the inputs, I would like to comment on the

problem of

> being alone.

>

>

>

> There is a vast difference between being alone and being lonesome,

though

> they sometimes coincide.

>

>

>

> 'you may be lonesome in the midst of a sea of people, who are not

even

> indifferent to you. And you can be very much alone without being

the least

> lonesome.

>

>

>

> Though I discovered only about five years ago that I had always had

> Aspergers Syndrome - I have always known that I was different and

the worst

> derogatory label I knew was " normal " - because " normal " defined as

the

> medium of NT people was something, that I would never hope to

become.

>

>

>

> Now I thank God for my loneliness. Though it was hard to be mobbed

and

> bullied and though I never quite understood the " game " of

pretending to be

> inclusive. I have come to the very joyful and soothing insight that

each of

> us (NT or AS alike) are so unique that we can never indeed reach

eachothers

> deepest recesses.

>

>

>

> The only one who really knows me and understands me is my Creator

with whom

> I have had a very rewarding fellowship consciously since 1969. Even

my

> faithful and beloved NT wife through more than thirty-three years

together

> with whom I have had many wonderful and heartrending experiences,

only knows

> a very little part of my being - though I have never attempted to

hide

> anything for her (sometime causing considerable pain by my blunt

honesty).

>

>

>

> She also though she loves me with intense love is still a complete

mystery

> to me. But it does not hinder me from loving her.

>

>

>

> I even hardly know myself. There are so many recesses and

subconscious

> motivations, that I sometime wonder what really makes me " tick " .

>

> But one thing I know for sure that my Creator and Redeemer knows me

inside

> out.

>

> This consciousness keeps me happy and alive. I started out as an

atheist

> humanist, but while I studied physics and chemistry at the

university of

> Copenhagen, it dawned on me that there was far too much order in the

> universe. Logically this order had to be instigated by some

intelligence.

>

>

>

> After years of vain search in religions I finally found an online

connection

> to the Living God. This gave me access to eternity and a fathomless

love.

>

> I am now a very content and safe Aspie. Before I was often

depressed and

> anxious, because I had no control. I still have rather little

control, but I

> know that a person who loves me is in control. This assurance keeps

me from

> depression and other mental troubles, which are much too common in

the

> autistic spectrum.

>

>

>

> I can heartily recommend that any Aspie get in touch with her or

his creator

> because this is the only way to avoid loneliness - whether Aspie or

> neurotypical.

>

>

>

> FYI for your information - feel free to ask

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanx a lot

>

> From

>

> Carl Sukkot

>

>

>

> Scribe,

>

> Vesterbrogade 87,

>

> 1620 Copenhagen,

>

> Denmark

>

> Cscribe.dk

>

> http://www.scribe.dk

>

> http://www.cometutor.dk

>

> Skype: Carl_Sukkot

>

> Voice: +45 3325 0058

>

> Cellular: +45 2172 5121

>

> Skype-in +45 3696 5800

>

> Go Online Eternity - Request gratis CPU & password!

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Hi Carl,

Christianity plays a huge role in my life, but a slightly different

one than yours.

I believe in God and know that He is there, and that therefore I am

never alone.

For people who are spiritually inclined, it IS important to remember

that their God never forgets them or foresakes them.

But God is not a crutch.

At least I was taught by my clergy during my spiritual training that

He isn't.

Respecting and loving God means respecting the fact that he is NOT

there to satisfy our every whim and he is NOT there to be a sort of

fill-in for whatever is missing in our lives.

We may WANT something, like a cure for being lonely, but God is not

obliged to give us what we want, and sometimes God doesn't. That is

the factual aspect of God's Word and God's Earth.

This essential truth is what keeps us humble and makes us kneel

before Him and remember our place in His designs.

If we TRULY have God, then NOTHING is truly missing because, if we

believe in Him, He gives us everything that we NEED (as opposed to

WANT) when we are alive, and He will give us eternity, peace, and

contentment upon our death.

My point of view anyway.

Tom

Hi, Aspie friends,

Prompted by some of the inputs, I would like to comment on the

problem of being alone.

There is a vast difference between being alone and being lonesome,

though they sometimes coincide.

'you may be lonesome in the midst of a sea of people, who are not

even indifferent to you. And you can be very much alone without being

the least lonesome.

Though I discovered only about five years ago that I had always had

Aspergers Syndrome - I have always known that I was different and the

worst derogatory label I knew was " normal " - because " normal " defined

as the medium of NT people was something, that I would never hope to

become.

Now I thank God for my loneliness. Though it was hard to be mobbed

and bullied and though I never quite understood the " game " of

pretending to be inclusive. I have come to the very joyful and

soothing insight that each of us (NT or AS alike) are so unique that

we can never indeed reach eachothers deepest recesses.

The only one who really knows me and understands me is my Creator

with whom I have had a very rewarding fellowship consciously since

1969. Even my faithful and beloved NT wife through more than thirty-

three years together with whom I have had many wonderful and

heartrending experiences, only knows a very little part of my being -

though I have never attempted to hide anything for her (sometime

causing considerable pain by my blunt honesty).

She also though she loves me with intense love is still a complete

mystery to me. But it does not hinder me from loving her.

I even hardly know myself. There are so many recesses and

subconscious motivations, that I sometime wonder what really makes

me " tick " .

But one thing I know for sure that my Creator and Redeemer knows me

inside out.

This consciousness keeps me happy and alive. I started out as an

atheist humanist, but while I studied physics and chemistry at the

university of Copenhagen, it dawned on me that there was far too much

order in the universe. Logically this order had to be instigated by

some intelligence.

After years of vain search in religions I finally found an online

connection to the Living God. This gave me access to eternity and a

fathomless love.

I am now a very content and safe Aspie. Before I was often depressed

and anxious, because I had no control. I still have rather little

control, but I know that a person who loves me is in control. This

assurance keeps me from depression and other mental troubles, which

are much too common in the autistic spectrum.

I can heartily recommend that any Aspie get in touch with her or his

creator because this is the only way to avoid loneliness - whether

Aspie or neurotypical.

FYI for your information - feel free to ask

Thanx a lot

From

Carl Sukkot

Scribe,

Vesterbrogade 87,

1620 Copenhagen,

Denmark

Cscribe.dk

http://www.scribe.dk

http://www.cometutor.dk

Skype: Carl_Sukkot

Voice: +45 3325 0058

Cellular: +45 2172 5121

Skype-in +45 3696 5800

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Hi Carl,

Christianity plays a huge role in my life, but a slightly different

one than yours.

I believe in God and know that He is there, and that therefore I am

never alone.

For people who are spiritually inclined, it IS important to remember

that their God never forgets them or foresakes them.

But God is not a crutch.

At least I was taught by my clergy during my spiritual training that

He isn't.

Respecting and loving God means respecting the fact that he is NOT

there to satisfy our every whim and he is NOT there to be a sort of

fill-in for whatever is missing in our lives.

We may WANT something, like a cure for being lonely, but God is not

obliged to give us what we want, and sometimes God doesn't. That is

the factual aspect of God's Word and God's Earth.

This essential truth is what keeps us humble and makes us kneel

before Him and remember our place in His designs.

If we TRULY have God, then NOTHING is truly missing because, if we

believe in Him, He gives us everything that we NEED (as opposed to

WANT) when we are alive, and He will give us eternity, peace, and

contentment upon our death.

My point of view anyway.

Tom

Hi, Aspie friends,

Prompted by some of the inputs, I would like to comment on the

problem of being alone.

There is a vast difference between being alone and being lonesome,

though they sometimes coincide.

'you may be lonesome in the midst of a sea of people, who are not

even indifferent to you. And you can be very much alone without being

the least lonesome.

Though I discovered only about five years ago that I had always had

Aspergers Syndrome - I have always known that I was different and the

worst derogatory label I knew was " normal " - because " normal " defined

as the medium of NT people was something, that I would never hope to

become.

Now I thank God for my loneliness. Though it was hard to be mobbed

and bullied and though I never quite understood the " game " of

pretending to be inclusive. I have come to the very joyful and

soothing insight that each of us (NT or AS alike) are so unique that

we can never indeed reach eachothers deepest recesses.

The only one who really knows me and understands me is my Creator

with whom I have had a very rewarding fellowship consciously since

1969. Even my faithful and beloved NT wife through more than thirty-

three years together with whom I have had many wonderful and

heartrending experiences, only knows a very little part of my being -

though I have never attempted to hide anything for her (sometime

causing considerable pain by my blunt honesty).

She also though she loves me with intense love is still a complete

mystery to me. But it does not hinder me from loving her.

I even hardly know myself. There are so many recesses and

subconscious motivations, that I sometime wonder what really makes

me " tick " .

But one thing I know for sure that my Creator and Redeemer knows me

inside out.

This consciousness keeps me happy and alive. I started out as an

atheist humanist, but while I studied physics and chemistry at the

university of Copenhagen, it dawned on me that there was far too much

order in the universe. Logically this order had to be instigated by

some intelligence.

After years of vain search in religions I finally found an online

connection to the Living God. This gave me access to eternity and a

fathomless love.

I am now a very content and safe Aspie. Before I was often depressed

and anxious, because I had no control. I still have rather little

control, but I know that a person who loves me is in control. This

assurance keeps me from depression and other mental troubles, which

are much too common in the autistic spectrum.

I can heartily recommend that any Aspie get in touch with her or his

creator because this is the only way to avoid loneliness - whether

Aspie or neurotypical.

FYI for your information - feel free to ask

Thanx a lot

From

Carl Sukkot

Scribe,

Vesterbrogade 87,

1620 Copenhagen,

Denmark

Cscribe.dk

http://www.scribe.dk

http://www.cometutor.dk

Skype: Carl_Sukkot

Voice: +45 3325 0058

Cellular: +45 2172 5121

Skype-in +45 3696 5800

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I suspect that was just a - possibly humorous - way of expressing the

experience of being in continuous connection with something higher than

oneself.

I don't think God has a website. ;-)

Inger

Re: Being alone

Hi,

what is this '...an online connection to the Living God.'? Could you

explain further please - is this some sort of website? You used the

term online so I wondered?

> Hi, Aspie friends,

>

>

>

> Prompted by some of the inputs, I would like to comment on the

problem of

> being alone.

>

>

>

> There is a vast difference between being alone and being lonesome,

though

> they sometimes coincide.

>

>

>

> 'you may be lonesome in the midst of a sea of people, who are not

even

> indifferent to you. And you can be very much alone without being

the least

> lonesome.

>

>

>

> Though I discovered only about five years ago that I had always had

> Aspergers Syndrome - I have always known that I was different and

the worst

> derogatory label I knew was " normal " - because " normal " defined as

the

> medium of NT people was something, that I would never hope to

become.

>

>

>

> Now I thank God for my loneliness. Though it was hard to be mobbed

and

> bullied and though I never quite understood the " game " of

pretending to be

> inclusive. I have come to the very joyful and soothing insight that

each of

> us (NT or AS alike) are so unique that we can never indeed reach

eachothers

> deepest recesses.

>

>

>

> The only one who really knows me and understands me is my Creator

with whom

> I have had a very rewarding fellowship consciously since 1969. Even

my

> faithful and beloved NT wife through more than thirty-three years

together

> with whom I have had many wonderful and heartrending experiences,

only knows

> a very little part of my being - though I have never attempted to

hide

> anything for her (sometime causing considerable pain by my blunt

honesty).

>

>

>

> She also though she loves me with intense love is still a complete

mystery

> to me. But it does not hinder me from loving her.

>

>

>

> I even hardly know myself. There are so many recesses and

subconscious

> motivations, that I sometime wonder what really makes me " tick " .

>

> But one thing I know for sure that my Creator and Redeemer knows me

inside

> out.

>

> This consciousness keeps me happy and alive. I started out as an

atheist

> humanist, but while I studied physics and chemistry at the

university of

> Copenhagen, it dawned on me that there was far too much order in the

> universe. Logically this order had to be instigated by some

intelligence.

>

>

>

> After years of vain search in religions I finally found an online

connection

> to the Living God. This gave me access to eternity and a fathomless

love.

>

> I am now a very content and safe Aspie. Before I was often

depressed and

> anxious, because I had no control. I still have rather little

control, but I

> know that a person who loves me is in control. This assurance keeps

me from

> depression and other mental troubles, which are much too common in

the

> autistic spectrum.

>

>

>

> I can heartily recommend that any Aspie get in touch with her or

his creator

> because this is the only way to avoid loneliness - whether Aspie or

> neurotypical.

>

>

>

> FYI for your information - feel free to ask

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanx a lot

>

> From

>

> Carl Sukkot

>

>

>

> Scribe,

>

> Vesterbrogade 87,

>

> 1620 Copenhagen,

>

> Denmark

>

> Cscribe.dk

>

> http://www.scribe.dk

>

> http://www.cometutor.dk

>

> Skype: Carl_Sukkot

>

> Voice: +45 3325 0058

>

> Cellular: +45 2172 5121

>

> Skype-in +45 3696 5800

>

> Go Online Eternity - Request gratis CPU & password!

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Who said God is a crutch or a Santa Claus? :-)

To me, the energy of Christ represents a combination of unconditional love,

wisdom, compassion & integrity. And that is something I believe everyone has

inside their hearts (literally their heart energy center, which is a

transformer of higher energy into emotional octaves, positioned right in the

middle of the chest) and with which one can be in touch whether Christian or

not. I find this unconditional love/wisdom/integrity/compassion emanating as

much from Dalai Lama as from bishop Desmond Tutu (who I find one of the

wisest and most loving persons on the planet).

Inger

Re: Being alone

Hi Carl,

Christianity plays a huge role in my life, but a slightly different

one than yours.

I believe in God and know that He is there, and that therefore I am

never alone.

For people who are spiritually inclined, it IS important to remember

that their God never forgets them or foresakes them.

But God is not a crutch.

At least I was taught by my clergy during my spiritual training that

He isn't.

Respecting and loving God means respecting the fact that he is NOT

there to satisfy our every whim and he is NOT there to be a sort of

fill-in for whatever is missing in our lives.

We may WANT something, like a cure for being lonely, but God is not

obliged to give us what we want, and sometimes God doesn't. That is

the factual aspect of God's Word and God's Earth.

This essential truth is what keeps us humble and makes us kneel

before Him and remember our place in His designs.

If we TRULY have God, then NOTHING is truly missing because, if we

believe in Him, He gives us everything that we NEED (as opposed to

WANT) when we are alive, and He will give us eternity, peace, and

contentment upon our death.

My point of view anyway.

Tom

Hi, Aspie friends,

Prompted by some of the inputs, I would like to comment on the

problem of being alone.

There is a vast difference between being alone and being lonesome,

though they sometimes coincide.

'you may be lonesome in the midst of a sea of people, who are not

even indifferent to you. And you can be very much alone without being

the least lonesome.

Though I discovered only about five years ago that I had always had

Aspergers Syndrome - I have always known that I was different and the

worst derogatory label I knew was " normal " - because " normal " defined

as the medium of NT people was something, that I would never hope to

become.

Now I thank God for my loneliness. Though it was hard to be mobbed

and bullied and though I never quite understood the " game " of

pretending to be inclusive. I have come to the very joyful and

soothing insight that each of us (NT or AS alike) are so unique that

we can never indeed reach eachothers deepest recesses.

The only one who really knows me and understands me is my Creator

with whom I have had a very rewarding fellowship consciously since

1969. Even my faithful and beloved NT wife through more than thirty-

three years together with whom I have had many wonderful and

heartrending experiences, only knows a very little part of my being -

though I have never attempted to hide anything for her (sometime

causing considerable pain by my blunt honesty).

She also though she loves me with intense love is still a complete

mystery to me. But it does not hinder me from loving her.

I even hardly know myself. There are so many recesses and

subconscious motivations, that I sometime wonder what really makes

me " tick " .

But one thing I know for sure that my Creator and Redeemer knows me

inside out.

This consciousness keeps me happy and alive. I started out as an

atheist humanist, but while I studied physics and chemistry at the

university of Copenhagen, it dawned on me that there was far too much

order in the universe. Logically this order had to be instigated by

some intelligence.

After years of vain search in religions I finally found an online

connection to the Living God. This gave me access to eternity and a

fathomless love.

I am now a very content and safe Aspie. Before I was often depressed

and anxious, because I had no control. I still have rather little

control, but I know that a person who loves me is in control. This

assurance keeps me from depression and other mental troubles, which

are much too common in the autistic spectrum.

I can heartily recommend that any Aspie get in touch with her or his

creator because this is the only way to avoid loneliness - whether

Aspie or neurotypical.

FYI for your information - feel free to ask

Thanx a lot

From

Carl Sukkot

Scribe,

Vesterbrogade 87,

1620 Copenhagen,

Denmark

Cscribe.dk

http://www.scribe.dk

http://www.cometutor.dk

Skype: Carl_Sukkot

Voice: +45 3325 0058

Cellular: +45 2172 5121

Skype-in +45 3696 5800

Go Online Eternity - Request gratis CPU & password!

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Awwwwwwwwww shame I wanted to send an email :-)

> > Hi, Aspie friends,

> >

> >

> >

> > Prompted by some of the inputs, I would like to comment on the

> problem of

> > being alone.

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a vast difference between being alone and being lonesome,

> though

> > they sometimes coincide.

> >

> >

> >

> > 'you may be lonesome in the midst of a sea of people, who are not

> even

> > indifferent to you. And you can be very much alone without being

> the least

> > lonesome.

> >

> >

> >

> > Though I discovered only about five years ago that I had always

had

> > Aspergers Syndrome - I have always known that I was different and

> the worst

> > derogatory label I knew was " normal " - because " normal " defined as

> the

> > medium of NT people was something, that I would never hope to

> become.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now I thank God for my loneliness. Though it was hard to be mobbed

> and

> > bullied and though I never quite understood the " game " of

> pretending to be

> > inclusive. I have come to the very joyful and soothing insight

that

> each of

> > us (NT or AS alike) are so unique that we can never indeed reach

> eachothers

> > deepest recesses.

> >

> >

> >

> > The only one who really knows me and understands me is my Creator

> with whom

> > I have had a very rewarding fellowship consciously since 1969.

Even

> my

> > faithful and beloved NT wife through more than thirty-three years

> together

> > with whom I have had many wonderful and heartrending experiences,

> only knows

> > a very little part of my being - though I have never attempted to

> hide

> > anything for her (sometime causing considerable pain by my blunt

> honesty).

> >

> >

> >

> > She also though she loves me with intense love is still a complete

> mystery

> > to me. But it does not hinder me from loving her.

> >

> >

> >

> > I even hardly know myself. There are so many recesses and

> subconscious

> > motivations, that I sometime wonder what really makes me " tick " .

> >

> > But one thing I know for sure that my Creator and Redeemer knows

me

> inside

> > out.

> >

> > This consciousness keeps me happy and alive. I started out as an

> atheist

> > humanist, but while I studied physics and chemistry at the

> university of

> > Copenhagen, it dawned on me that there was far too much order in

the

> > universe. Logically this order had to be instigated by some

> intelligence.

> >

> >

> >

> > After years of vain search in religions I finally found an online

> connection

> > to the Living God. This gave me access to eternity and a

fathomless

> love.

> >

> > I am now a very content and safe Aspie. Before I was often

> depressed and

> > anxious, because I had no control. I still have rather little

> control, but I

> > know that a person who loves me is in control. This assurance

keeps

> me from

> > depression and other mental troubles, which are much too common in

> the

> > autistic spectrum.

> >

> >

> >

> > I can heartily recommend that any Aspie get in touch with her or

> his creator

> > because this is the only way to avoid loneliness - whether Aspie

or

> > neurotypical.

> >

> >

> >

> > FYI for your information - feel free to ask

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanx a lot

> >

> > From

> >

> > Carl Sukkot

> >

> >

> >

> > Scribe,

> >

> > Vesterbrogade 87,

> >

> > 1620 Copenhagen,

> >

> > Denmark

> >

> > Cscribe.dk

> >

> > http://www.scribe.dk

> >

> > http://www.cometutor.dk

> >

> > Skype: Carl_Sukkot

> >

> > Voice: +45 3325 0058

> >

> > Cellular: +45 2172 5121

> >

> > Skype-in +45 3696 5800

> >

> > Go Online Eternity - Request gratis CPU & password!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,

support and

> acceptance. Everyone is valued.

>

> Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page

in the

> folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

>

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haha, me too!

Well, but He has heard my prayers...Most of them. For the ones which he hasnt yet, I try to remember something I once read: the best thing that can happen to you is some of your prayers NOT be heard. hehe

Awwwwwwwwww shame I wanted to send an email :-)> I suspect that was just a - possibly humorous - way of expressing the > experience of being in continuous connection with something higher than > oneself.> > I don't think God has a website. ;-)> > Inger

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> haha, me too!

> Well, but He has heard my prayers...Most of them. For the ones which

he hasnt yet, I try to remember something I once read: the best thing

that can happen to you is some of your prayers NOT be heard. hehe

I always tell my kids, " Be careful what you ask for, you might get it! "

Lizzie

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>Inger: "To me, the energy of Christ represents a combination of unconditional love, wisdom, compassion & integrity. And that is something I believe everyone has inside their hearts (literally their heart energy center, which is a transformer of higher energy into emotional octaves, positioned right in the middle of the chest) and with which one can be in touch whether Christian or not. I find this unconditional love/wisdom/integrity/compassion emanating as much from Dalai Lama as from bishop Desmond Tutu (who I find one of the wisest and most loving persons on the planet)."Isn't the word for this love: agape = unconditional love/selfless love  Rainbow

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>Marilia: "After a few years I ended up realizing the best thing was just to ask God guidance and give to me what he thoguht it was the best...as there were always so many details I could not even imagine before asking for somehting...best thing is to trust he knows better. hehe"This is why we pray: ....."Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven....."  Rainbow

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Hi Josie:

My heart just sank when I read your email. Hang in there. You'll be in

my prayers tonight.

In a message dated 8/18/2010 3:27:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

haggisisscotsfood@... writes:

Being ill is isolating. I am housebound, dealing with this alone. No

family left alive, and friends here have all died way too young, mostly from

cancer. Local acquaintances don't call any more because I am too ill to

participate and so am " no fun. " During the really bad times, it can be scary.

Josie

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I need to take this moment to remind you that you are never alone. We

are all connected albeit spiritually or energetically. Please take

comfort in that...

Sent from my mobile device

On Aug 18, 2010, at 4:27 PM, PickPinkFlowers <haggisisscotsfood@...

> wrote:

> Being ill is isolating. I am housebound, dealing with this

> alone. No family left alive, and friends here have all died way too

> young, mostly from cancer. Local acquaintances don't call any more

> because I am too ill to participate and so am " no fun. " During the

> really bad times, it can be scary. Josie

>

>

>

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I know what you mean. I came back to work way too early just so I could have a

social life again :). I'm working six hours a day, but it's really hard

sometimes. And it's so hard to explain to friends and family about my

limitations. I think they just think I'm anti-social.

I'm so sorry you feel so isolated. Big hug and kiss from here.

Connie

[ ] Being Alone

Being ill is isolating. I am housebound, dealing with this alone. No

family left alive, and friends here have all died way too young, mostly from

cancer. Local acquaintances don't call any more because I am too ill to

participate and so am " no fun. " During the really bad times, it can be scary.

Josie

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I hear you all. It is really tough. I went back to work way too soon but had to

eat and get new health insurance. Friends take offense that I disappear for so

long. But what can you do. I live alone and work alone. But have to say I am

doing better than I was a year ago. Keep your chin up and eye on the goal. Get

rid of those bugs!!!

Hang in there

Monty.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

[ ] Being Alone

Being ill is isolating. I am housebound, dealing with this alone. No

family left alive, and friends here have all died way too young, mostly from

cancer. Local acquaintances don't call any more because I am too ill to

participate and so am " no fun. " During the really bad times, it can be scary.

Josie

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Josie and others, if you ever need a friend to talk to I have a great ear,

e-mail me and I'd be happy to lend a friendly voice, shoulder to lean on.

I don't have any answers, but I'm a good listener! I have free long

distance too! So if you want I can call you. :)

When I first got sick 2 years ago I was having a bunch of dental work

done, I believe thru the poor amalgam removal of most teeth in my mouth,

along w/several root canals (that I didn't need), it slowly helped to

break down my immune system, along w/a flooded basement (mold), and my 12

y/o Lyme disease that was lying dormant came out!

Through my nightmare, I met the most wonderful women thru a mercury blog

who became my angel and great friend, her name was Beth, like me she had

high levels of mercury and later tested positive for Lyme, and then she

got breast cancer and she died the end of last year.

I was so sick and so lonely, and she was the voice of reason and

compassion that kept me going (even though she was just as sick as I was,

knowing someone else out there feels your pain, it helps get you thru the

battle), so ladies and gents, feel free to contact me and we can share

common aches and pains together!

From:

PickPinkFlowers <haggisisscotsfood@...>

To:

Date:

08/18/2010 04:26 PM

Subject:

[ ] Being Alone

Sent by:

Being ill is isolating. I am housebound, dealing with this alone.

No family left alive, and friends here have all died way too young, mostly

from cancer. Local acquaintances don't call any more because I am too ill

to participate and so am " no fun. " During the really bad times, it can be

scary. Josie

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Hello - That was such a good post. It is good to know that you

are there. I realize that there are a lot of people that have it

worse than me, so I should be grateful for what I have.

I am determined and hopeful that I will get out of this in better

shape than when I fell into this hole.

I agree that the death of this bacteria is just a part of the healing

journey. Lyme has forced me to take on stuff that I did not want to

face before. Lyme really hits our weak spots. I am just speaking for

myself now that the " alien invaders " are causing me to bring out my

best. All is for a reason.

Have you all checked out THE TICK SLAYER? Her success story

brings me hope.

Any ways, getting back to Josie's post, I hope that she gets

the help that she needs. It can be so frustrating and lonely to take

on something that most people deny even exists. Most doctor's view

should be criminal. With Lyme being an official epidemic, [CDC's

word], there's going to be a lot of doctors fighting for that sand to

stick their head in. : ) Take Care everyone. in VT

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HI to all the lonely one's out there and Josie's e-mail hit home.

I moved to a new area over a year ago (Blacksburg,VA) and I was sick, but I

didn't know how sick. I had been sick for a year when I moved here to be close

to my son. I have been too sick to socialize and make friends, so I am alone a

lot and very lonely. If it weren't for my son, I don't know how I would have

managed. The rest of my family live in Denmark and Sweden.

I was diagnosed 3 weeks ago with Lyme and Bartonella after a night mare of a

journey trying to find out what was wrong with me. Now the next chapter starts:

How to get the best treatment and nobody agrees what that is. The doctor that

diagnosed me doesn't feel comfortable treating me on her own. More confusion.

There are no specialists here, so I will have to travel 5-6 hrs to see one.

Then this waiting game goes on and on.

I would love to have someone to talk to once in awhile, as I am scared too.

There is no support group here and I feel I am on shaky ground, an unknown

territory with a lot of uncertainty.

Thank you for this group. Maud

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Even though we are connected spiritually, it is still scary and lonely and

nothing can replace the human touch or direct contact with other people. We all

need a hug every day to be healthy. Love and light Maud

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WAlakhdar@... wrote:

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>Hi Josie:

>

>My heart just sank when I read your email. Hang in there. You'll be in

>my prayers tonight.

>

>

>

>In a message dated 8/18/2010 3:27:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

>haggisisscotsfood@... writes:

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>Being ill is isolating. I am housebound, dealing with this alone. No

>family left alive, and friends here have all died way too young, mostly from

>cancer. Local acquaintances don't call any more because I am too ill to

>participate and so am " no fun. " During the really bad times, it can be scary.

>Josie

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Hello Maud - We are certainly all learning about patience, eh? I

guess it could be worse if we were caught up in a hospital setting

with drugs & surgery. At least we know what is wrong with us and that

there is a way out.

I am also pretty sure that I have Bartonella. I tried to sell

that to an infectious disease doctor but she actually laughed. " Ticks

do not carry Bartonella! " she cried. When I got home I googled; Ticks

- Bartonella - CDC and sure enough they said that ticks DO CARRY

Bartonella. I wonder how deep the doctors must keep their heads in

the sand if they won't even listen to one of their own?

I'm sorry that you have to wait such a long time for help. We

are not alone. Have you read Buhner's book? Are you taking a ton of

stuff? : )

I remember that statement from the LLMD that we must kill the

skeets, remove waste and clear emotional conflicts. I don't think we

can get out of this until we fully engage in all 3.

Does Cat's Claw or Bee Pollen cause insomnia because

it's 2:30 AM and I'm here! Yeesh. Good Night. in VT

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