RE: Re: Herxheimer Reactions/Pulsed Doses of Herbs

[Guest guest]

Yarrow, that is exactly what I do. I don't always take all the Prescribed

pills each day - just pick out what I need for the time.

really has pushed me to get t ot know my body.

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of gentlybe00

Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:12 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Herxheimer Reactions/ " Pulsed " Doses of Herbs

Hello....I get the sense that you can feel what is right for you when it's

time to take your herbs.

I'm going through something similar, with the whole protocol.

Treating with herbs is such an intuitive art. Many people want everything

spelled out as to exactly how much and when. The reality is that not only

are each of us different in our physiology and how we're going to respond to

treatment....but our bodies shift in the course of a day.

If you aren't sure what's right for you, it would be great if you could get

a friend to muscle test for you. This is what i've been doing, and my

protocol does shift throughout the day and from day to day.

Some days the body is just so weak and ill and i " know " that it is time to

lighten up with the herbs, at least temporarily.

I think Buhner says in an interview that one of the " blessings " of

having lyme disease is that it moves us into becoming more intuitive with

what is needed in each moment (or something along those lines.)

peace and ease,

yarrow

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> I've spent a few weeks on the Buhner herb protocol and the two times I've

increase my dosage of Japanese Knotweed (right now at 2 tablets of Source

Naturals 3x/day), I get heavy headaches (which, thankfully, are unusual for

me) and a worsening of my symptoms. I'm generally thrilled with that, since

I think that's a herx reaction. However, in order to give my body the

ability to accomdate the reaction, I stop the herbs for one dose that day. I

would love anyone's thoughts on whether skipping a dose to relieve some of

the stress on the body is something others have tried to keep the balance

between killing the disease and managing toxicity.

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> Also, has anyone tried " pulsing " the doses of herbs, taking more at one

dosage, and then skipping a dose, or taking more on one day and skipping the

next?

>

[Guest guest]

yarrow, I have saved this email for awhile as your protocol theory is mine

exactly and it was nice to hear some supporting words.

I pulse cat's claw and wormwood; sometimes do coiling; use salt on occasion

(only when I'm feeling very well) tho I do salt my food heavily. And by

doing this " intuitive " dosing, I am able to work and even completed an hour

walk at a pretty fast pace yesterday. It's been a long time - 2 years this

month since I " found out " where all my symptoms came from and began with my

first Lyme supplements - Cat's claw and glutathione.

My feeling, and what works for me, is the more fluid dosing - if I'm feeling

bad, not so much of anything including stressful situations (i give myself

permission to go home) - if I'm feeling OK, hit the supplements and vitamins

hard - if I eat badly, don't punish myself but try to eat better tomorrow...

Anyone else with a flexible protocol?

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of gentlybe00

Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:12 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Herxheimer Reactions/ " Pulsed " Doses of Herbs

Hello....I get the sense that you can feel what is right for you when it's

time to take your herbs.

I'm going through something similar, with the whole protocol.

Treating with herbs is such an intuitive art. Many people want everything

spelled out as to exactly how much and when. The reality is that not only

are each of us different in our physiology and how we're going to respond to

treatment....but our bodies shift in the course of a day.

If you aren't sure what's right for you, it would be great if you could get

a friend to muscle test for you. This is what i've been doing, and my

protocol does shift throughout the day and from day to day.

Some days the body is just so weak and ill and i " know " that it is time to

lighten up with the herbs, at least temporarily.

I think Buhner says in an interview that one of the " blessings " of

having lyme disease is that it moves us into becoming more intuitive with

what is needed in each moment (or something along those lines.)

peace and ease,

yarrow

>

> I've spent a few weeks on the Buhner herb protocol and the two times I've

increase my dosage of Japanese Knotweed (right now at 2 tablets of Source

Naturals 3x/day), I get heavy headaches (which, thankfully, are unusual for

me) and a worsening of my symptoms. I'm generally thrilled with that, since

I think that's a herx reaction. However, in order to give my body the

ability to accomdate the reaction, I stop the herbs for one dose that day. I

would love anyone's thoughts on whether skipping a dose to relieve some of

the stress on the body is something others have tried to keep the balance

between killing the disease and managing toxicity.

>

> Also, has anyone tried " pulsing " the doses of herbs, taking more at one

dosage, and then skipping a dose, or taking more on one day and skipping the

next?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes deb, sorry I should of mentioned; just assumed we were all on the same

page with that one. I vacillate between the Real and the pink Himalayan.

Like everyone has said,listen to your body and feed it the best you can.

Read another post were they were discussing the terrain not the bugs as a

focus - seems like perhaps Buhner has headed the same way! In other words

support your body to be healthier so it becomes an inhospitable environment

for the little buggers to grow.

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Deb57

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:32 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Herxheimer Reactions/ " Pulsed " Doses of Herbs

,

Just wanted to chime in about the salt. Hope you are using sea salt,

Himalayan, RealSalt or Celtic, but not regular table salt. Table salt is a

byproduct of commercial salt production and is bleached and then has

anti-caking additives. It is toxic.

For anyone who is interested, there is a salt/vitamin C protocol on 's

lymestrategies group.

deb

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> > I've spent a few weeks on the Buhner herb protocol and the two times

I've

> increase my dosage of Japanese Knotweed (right now at 2 tablets of Source

> Naturals 3x/day), I get heavy headaches (which, thankfully, are unusual

for

> me) and a worsening of my symptoms. I'm generally thrilled with that,

since

> I think that's a herx reaction. However, in order to give my body the

> ability to accomdate the reaction, I stop the herbs for one dose that day.

I

> would love anyone's thoughts on whether skipping a dose to relieve some of

> the stress on the body is something others have tried to keep the balance

> between killing the disease and managing toxicity.

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> > Also, has anyone tried " pulsing " the doses of herbs, taking more at one

> dosage, and then skipping a dose, or taking more on one day and skipping

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