Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Is it best to start w/a deep tissue massage which will get the lymph system moving and then add swedish massage later? Is there an order and type that should be done? My ND suggested deep tissue, I had it done and for several days felt like I got hit by a bus, ND said it's jump starting the lymph system and a lot of detoxing was going on. He said Swedish was more for muscles/tissues. I have fibromyalgia and any amount of pressure on my body hurts, the simplest touch and I'm saying ouch Should we be doing detoxing during massages to open up the pathways? From: " " <canefan18@...> To: Date: 08/15/2010 01:11 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Question about swedish massage Sent by: In the words of NIKE. JUST DO IT! > > Hi, Everyone, > > When a body is dealing with chronic illness, it is under stress. > Often a great deal of stress. Any stimulus, even a gentle touch, > meant to be comforting and nurturing, can add to the stress, and can > overwhelm the precarious balance that the body has achieved. > > Swedish massage can take many forms. Some Swedish massages are fairly > rough - meant to be stimulating to the muscles and nervous system. > Some are very relaxing, allowing you to enter a tasmic state in which > your autonomic nervous system prevails, and a great deal of healing > can take place. > > Swedish can also be stimulating to the immune system, which sounds > good, but which can, in fact, make you feel quite ill. When you are > sick, many of the symptoms you experience are due to your own immune > response, and you really don't want it heightened. > > The best approach when suffering from a chronic illness, is to start > slowly. If you go back to the same therapist, tell her how you felt > following the previous session. Ask her to work even more gently, or > to do 30 minutes instead of an hour. A good therapist can tailor the > session to the client's needs. But it can take a couple sessions for > both of you to figure out what those needs are. > > DeMarco > Mason, NH > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. ________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@.... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 I was liking the deep tissue as a lot of my pain feels almost like it's between my muscles and my bones, and deep tissue gets there. However, my acupuncturist offered up the point that deep tissue will cause inflammation, and that's not necessarily what we want here - maybe when I am a little more on my feet I will go back, but for now, more gently, lymphatic drainage, etc., I think is better. (also, if it feels really bad and hurts you - I think that causes stress, which sets us back too.) From: alicia.colon@... Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:11:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [ ] OT: Massages Is it best to start w/a deep tissue massage which will get the lymph system moving and then add swedish massage later? Is there an order and type that should be done? My ND suggested deep tissue, I had it done and for several days felt like I got hit by a bus, ND said it's jump starting the lymph system and a lot of detoxing was going on. He said Swedish was more for muscles/tissues. I have fibromyalgia and any amount of pressure on my body hurts, the simplest touch and I'm saying ouch Should we be doing detoxing during massages to open up the pathways? From: " " <canefan18@...> To: Date: 08/15/2010 01:11 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Question about swedish massage Sent by: In the words of NIKE. JUST DO IT! > > Hi, Everyone, > > When a body is dealing with chronic illness, it is under stress. > Often a great deal of stress. Any stimulus, even a gentle touch, > meant to be comforting and nurturing, can add to the stress, and can > overwhelm the precarious balance that the body has achieved. > > Swedish massage can take many forms. Some Swedish massages are fairly > rough - meant to be stimulating to the muscles and nervous system. > Some are very relaxing, allowing you to enter a tasmic state in which > your autonomic nervous system prevails, and a great deal of healing > can take place. > > Swedish can also be stimulating to the immune system, which sounds > good, but which can, in fact, make you feel quite ill. When you are > sick, many of the symptoms you experience are due to your own immune > response, and you really don't want it heightened. > > The best approach when suffering from a chronic illness, is to start > slowly. If you go back to the same therapist, tell her how you felt > following the previous session. Ask her to work even more gently, or > to do 30 minutes instead of an hour. A good therapist can tailor the > session to the client's needs. But it can take a couple sessions for > both of you to figure out what those needs are. > > DeMarco > Mason, NH > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. __________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@.... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 I agree, I think gently lymph massages are best in the beginning! From: jen kahn <jen_ithaca@...> To: <Lyme Treatment > Date: 08/16/2010 10:15 AM Subject: RE: [ ] OT: Massages Sent by: I was liking the deep tissue as a lot of my pain feels almost like it's between my muscles and my bones, and deep tissue gets there. However, my acupuncturist offered up the point that deep tissue will cause inflammation, and that's not necessarily what we want here - maybe when I am a little more on my feet I will go back, but for now, more gently, lymphatic drainage, etc., I think is better. (also, if it feels really bad and hurts you - I think that causes stress, which sets us back too.) From: alicia.colon@... Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:11:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [ ] OT: Massages Is it best to start w/a deep tissue massage which will get the lymph system moving and then add swedish massage later? Is there an order and type that should be done? My ND suggested deep tissue, I had it done and for several days felt like I got hit by a bus, ND said it's jump starting the lymph system and a lot of detoxing was going on. He said Swedish was more for muscles/tissues. I have fibromyalgia and any amount of pressure on my body hurts, the simplest touch and I'm saying ouch Should we be doing detoxing during massages to open up the pathways? From: " " <canefan18@...> To: Date: 08/15/2010 01:11 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Question about swedish massage Sent by: In the words of NIKE. JUST DO IT! > > Hi, Everyone, > > When a body is dealing with chronic illness, it is under stress. > Often a great deal of stress. Any stimulus, even a gentle touch, > meant to be comforting and nurturing, can add to the stress, and can > overwhelm the precarious balance that the body has achieved. > > Swedish massage can take many forms. Some Swedish massages are fairly > rough - meant to be stimulating to the muscles and nervous system. > Some are very relaxing, allowing you to enter a tasmic state in which > your autonomic nervous system prevails, and a great deal of healing > can take place. > > Swedish can also be stimulating to the immune system, which sounds > good, but which can, in fact, make you feel quite ill. When you are > sick, many of the symptoms you experience are due to your own immune > response, and you really don't want it heightened. > > The best approach when suffering from a chronic illness, is to start > slowly. If you go back to the same therapist, tell her how you felt > following the previous session. Ask her to work even more gently, or > to do 30 minutes instead of an hour. A good therapist can tailor the > session to the client's needs. But it can take a couple sessions for > both of you to figure out what those needs are. > > DeMarco > Mason, NH > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. __________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@.... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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