Re: New here too -- how sick are people here?

[Guest guest]

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> So losing hope and running out of options. Is anyone here having success with

these types of symptoms -- does the Buhner protocol cross the BBB and actually

kill stuff inside cells and tissue? I couldnt quite get that from the book.

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The Buhner protocol helped me a lot with certain neuro problems (e.g. severe

vertigo/nausea, other problems related to inflammation of the Trigeminus nerve).

Buhner herbs do not 'kill' directly, they are first of all supportive:

strengthening the immune system, repairing the damage etc. Maybe they 'kill'

gradually by making the inside of your body less hospitable for the bugs. Some

of the herbs will go into the cells and cross the BBB - not everything of

course, because every herb has many biochemical components.

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Which herb do you think most affected the Trigeminus nerve, or do you think it

was a combination of many? My son is a musician(guitar) who has had to give up

playing and working survival jobs because of severe forearm and wrist pain. He

is seeing a respected LLMD here in the bay area of CA, and is doing ABx and a

host of other supps and probiotics etc. He gets massages and did 5 weeks of

hyperbarics. Still no help with his arms. It's very demoralizing for him.

Steve

From: knot_weed <tek0nik@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: New here too -- how sick are people here?

Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 12:49 PM

 

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> So losing hope and running out of options. Is anyone here having success with

these types of symptoms -- does the Buhner protocol cross the BBB and actually

kill stuff inside cells and tissue? I couldnt quite get that from the book.

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The Buhner protocol helped me a lot with certain neuro problems (e.g. severe

vertigo/nausea, other problems related to inflammation of the Trigeminus nerve).

Buhner herbs do not 'kill' directly, they are first of all supportive:

strengthening the immune system, repairing the damage etc. Maybe they 'kill'

gradually by making the inside of your body less hospitable for the bugs. Some

of the herbs will go into the cells and cross the BBB - not everything of

course, because every herb has many biochemical components.

[Guest guest]

On Page 78 of Buhner's book (Healing Lyme), he states " Andrographis . . .

crosses the blood/brain barrier where it is active as both an antispirochetal

and calming agent . . . "

Page 106 - Buhner refers to constituents of Japanese Knotweed as crossing the

Blood/brain barrier.

Page 135 - Buhner notes that Eleuthero improves mental fog and confusion -

brain?

A nummber of the other herbs are cited as improving congition and brain

function.

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> I've been in treatment for 3 yrs w/Iv and oral abx, and some proprietary herbs

from LLMD. I started the Buhner protocol about 18 months ago and lasted about

three weeks on it, got pretty bad GI upset from the knotweed.

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> I've tried every pharmaceutical and herbal (not Cowden though) and they quell

symptoms for awhile but don't kill it. I get to 90% but can't stay there. My

psychiatric and depersonalization problems are the worst. I also have

twitching, fibromyalgia pain and plantar fascitis 24/7, also hand and jaw pain.

LLMD thought bartonella and we went after that hard but no dice.

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> So losing hope and running out of options. Is anyone here having success with

these types of symptoms -- does the Buhner protocol cross the BBB and actually

kill stuff inside cells and tissue? I couldnt quite get that from the book.

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[Guest guest]

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> Which herb do you think most affected the Trigeminus nerve, or do you think it

was a combination of many?

definitely cured by the knotweed, as that was the only herb I was using in the

first weeks (I started catsclaw and andro later). Inflammation of the Trigeminus

causes all kinds of neuro problems (vision problems, tinnitus, crawling

sensations, vertigo etc.).

It is not so much a pain issue, although some spots behind my cheeckbone/ear

where this nerve is close to the surface were very painful when touched lightly

(I could feel the nerve bundle there when inflamed, almost like a steel cable

....).

> My son is a musician(guitar) who has had to give up playing and working

survival jobs because of severe forearm and wrist pain.

that may be another issue. I still have mild pain issues in most of my joints,

but I'm not sure it is a lyme problem. Such problems are very common with

musicians; my brother is a cellist and he has tried many treatments for joint

pain, usually without much result. He has had to stop playing from time to time.

Just like with Lyme, the pain seems to get worse when the person is 'stressed'.

[Guest guest]

I had tendonitis in one elbow that was very painful (fortunately my left arm and

I am right handed). My rife machine seems to have gotten rid of it for many

months now.

deb

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strengthening the immune system, repairing the damage etc. Maybe they 'kill'

gradually by making the inside of your body less hospitable for the bugs. Some

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