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hi jurek,

cut and sifted is NOT for filling capsules, only for teas, infusions, etc.

prepared as teas, generally it would not be as potent as taking the

capsules.

regarding buying from shamanshop, i posted this info few months ago:

i remember finding this source last summer. but i did not use it because if

you look closely, the shipping costs are VERY expensive, especially compared

with 1st chinese free ship over $40.

see http://www.shamanshop.net/shipping.htm

scroll down and see NO free shipping, no matter how much you buy:

1 lb $7.00 $20.00candadian $30 international

2 lbs $9.00

3 lbs $10.00

etc

in addition, many of the herbs ship from different centers, so each has

separate shipping costs and cannot be combined for savings in shipping!

" Shamanshop uses multiple fulfillment centers:

The fulfillment center is indicated by the letter at the end of each item

name. Each product listing specifies that fulfillment center's shipping

policies - and whether or not they ship internationally. There is a separate

shipping charge for each fulfillment center. "

so i think 1stchinese.com would be much cheaper? at least in the usa, not

sure if you are in europe.

still exploring,

kendra

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shamanshop.net sells Plum Flower Brand resveratrol (search: hu zhang)

in 3 forms:

- 5:1 extract powder

- cut & sifted

- powdered

I see that many of You say that Plum Flower Brand is good option, so

my next part of resveratrol I would like to order there. I'm thinking

about 'cut & sifted'

Do You think 'cut & sifted' form is as potent as powdered form?

Is 'cut & sifted' to make a tea ???

Jurek

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> hi jurek,

> cut and sifted is NOT for filling capsules, only for teas,

infusions, etc.

> prepared as teas, generally it would not be as potent as taking the

> capsules.

>

> regarding buying from shamanshop, i posted this info few months ago:

>

> i remember finding this source last summer. but i did not use it

because if

> you look closely, the shipping costs are VERY expensive, especially

compared

> with 1st chinese free ship over $40.

>

> see http://www.shamanshop.net/shipping.htm

> scroll down and see NO free shipping, no matter how much you buy:

> 1 lb $7.00 $20.00candadian $30 international

> 2 lbs $9.00

> 3 lbs $10.00

> etc

>

> in addition, many of the herbs ship from different centers, so each has

> separate shipping costs and cannot be combined for savings in shipping!

>

> " Shamanshop uses multiple fulfillment centers:

> The fulfillment center is indicated by the letter at the end of each

item

> name. Each product listing specifies that fulfillment center's shipping

> policies - and whether or not they ship internationally. There is a

separate

> shipping charge for each fulfillment center. "

>

> so i think 1stchinese.com would be much cheaper? at least in the

usa, not

> sure if you are in europe.

>

> still exploring,

> kendra

Thank's kendra.

Unfortunately 1stchineseherbs doesn't send products to my country.

So...I think about ordering 10x powdered resveratrol from shamanshop

(the bigger order the lower shipping price of 1lb...)

Do You think Plum Flower Brand resveratrol is the best brand for

resveratrol?

Jurek

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Kendra, why cut/sifted is not potent as powder? Or you mean the

standardized pills B recommends?

I would think the opposite as powder conserves less time than

cut/sifted.

Djur, aren't you happy with your resveratrol you got? Have you tried

the decoctions (you got to leave it boiling low fire for about 15-20

minutes). I found it very potent.

Selma

> Hi,

> shamanshop.net sells Plum Flower Brand resveratrol (search: hu

zhang)

> in 3 forms:

> - 5:1 extract powder

> - cut & sifted

> - powdered

>

> I see that many of You say that Plum Flower Brand is good option, so

> my next part of resveratrol I would like to order there. I'm

thinking

> about 'cut & sifted'

>

> Do You think 'cut & sifted' form is as potent as powdered form?

>

> Is 'cut & sifted' to make a tea ???

>

> Jurek

>

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Jurek, be careful when buying concentrates as they can contain

additives that many lyme sufferers react against. If just powder,

that's fine.

How are you doing with your treatment? I just came back from S. Friday!

Selma

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I saw my doc earlier this week and have been meaning to share something;

your questions, Jurek, brought it to mind again.

She says that herbs taht are powdered lose 'some' of their potency in

the process (heat and light). Also, there is no way to guarantee

potency. However, since cost is an issue, she says its fine for me to

continue using them that way.

jo

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> Kendra, why cut/sifted is not potent as powder? Or you mean the

> standardized pills B recommends?

>

> I would think the opposite as powder conserves less time than

> cut/sifted.

>

> Djur, aren't you happy with your resveratrol you got? Have you tried

> the decoctions (you got to leave it boiling low fire for about 15-20

> minutes). I found it very potent.

>

> Selma

>

>

Hi Selma!

No,no - this resveratrol is very good! I do decoctions.

I started with 28g per day. Is it too much? (for egzample Mrs. S.

said to take only 1 tablet of resv per day)

I noticed good opinions about Plum Flower Brand, so I'm thinking about it.

Kendra - could You explain more? Why is cut & sifted not as potent as

powdered in your opinion?

My treatment is ok, and how about You??? What Mrs. S said about your

new infection?

Take care,

Jurek

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Jurek,

28 grams. Wow. No, I take no more than 10 grams, I just weighed now. I

think I take about 5-8 grams a day in decoction, even less sometimes.

It's too strong for me otherwise. It doesn't " test " good if in high

amounts.

Glad to hear your treatment is going on fine. You'll probably need a

change in about 2-3 weeks to get to another step, that's when you'll

have to do your trials and errors by yourself. Maybe you could write to

S to ask her if you get in trouble when you change ...

My new infection is bad... Bartonella, babesia and borrelia are very

active and blocking my organs and regulation. She said that before this

infection, everything was low profile, not blocking me anymore, now

it's like coming back a step again.

I got problems in my gall bladder and GI tract.

She didn't test me for mycoplasma. She said anyway it's not important

because it's not the most active (the 3 others are the ones causing me

problem for the moment).

She also did a test for my heart rate to check my autonomic nervous

system with her computer. It's a test to see if your ANS recognizes

sleeping position and standing position. Last year, my body didn't

recognize it. This time, it looked much better. This is an indication

that things 'inside' are going on better, slowly, according to her.

I'm on teasel tincture (my own, 10-15 drops), frozen garlic (3),

sarsaparilla tincture (my own, 1 dropper), knotweed decoction (5-8

grams), artemisia annua decoction (1-2 tea spoons), PC-Noni (6-8

drops), bee polen (1-2 teaspoons), cistus incanus infusion (2

teaspoons), grapefruit seed extract (2), astragalus (2), raintree cats

claw (2), Electrolytes, homeopathic (a tick soup), bitter herbs in

powder, milk thistle (2), MSM (3 teaspoons), Omega 3 (2x), bear garlic

(chlorella (about 2-3 teaspoons), Vit B complex, Vit. D, calcium, some

other minerals like selenium zinc etc, cilantro to rub on, Farah's oil

to rub on, some immune system drops from plants, a refrigerated product

called Microflorana (similar to Proemsan), refrigerated bacteries,

flaxseed oil, then the KMT programs 1, 2 and sometimes 6.

I stopped artemisinin for the moment. I hope to lower the number of

things I take in about 2 months or so, when this infection gets

lowered, because it's a hell to take this all.

Hope you'll feel a bit better soon. Keep us informed!

How's the machine doing? I'm curious to know more about it. Tell us a

bit. Does it have 4 electrodes and different programs??

Good luck,

Selma

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Hi Jurek:

Yes, one pound is a pretty big bag. You can probably get 10 or more

bottles of pills out of one bag. I have never counted exactly, how many pills,

but that is 500 grams. And the MOST you will ever take is about 16 pills a day.

The most I took was 12 pills a day. I take 6 pills a day of it now.

So, yes, it lasts for a very long time. I think the most I would buy is maybe

two bags of it. But like I said, I only buy one bag at a time. And make up the

order with other herbs.

Take care,

Jim.

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Yes, You are right Jim :)

10x resveratrol seems to be too much.

I didn't know that one pound last for so long.

Jurek.

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Hi again Jurek

In the beginning I bought the capsules, of the Resveratrol that Buhner

recommends. But I couldn't afford buying them ready made, so I went to the

powder, bulk form.

When I went to the bulk form of powder, I went right to the Plum Flower

brand. BUT at first for several months I used the 5:1 concentrate, which is

expensive. A couple of months ago, I switched to the whole herb powder. Plum

Flower Brand.

I haven't " noticed " any difference, but that doesn't mean there isn't. The

big thing I noticed is it cost me a lot less for the whole herb for what you get

for the money.

On Andrographis I use whole herb powder, Plum Flower also.

Thanks,

Jim.

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Jim! I would like to know: do You use normal powder or extract powder

resveratrol? Is there big difference between them?

And what about other people?

Oh...and the same question about andrographis. Do You also use Plum

Flower? and what form of herb?

Please answer,

Thank's

Jurek

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> Hi again Jurek

>

> In the beginning I bought the capsules, of the Resveratrol that

Buhner recommends. But I couldn't afford buying them ready made, so I

went to the powder, bulk form.

>

> When I went to the bulk form of powder, I went right to the Plum

Flower brand. BUT at first for several months I used the 5:1

concentrate, which is expensive. A couple of months ago, I switched

to the whole herb powder. Plum Flower Brand.

>

> I haven't " noticed " any difference, but that doesn't mean there

isn't. The big thing I noticed is it cost me a lot less for the whole

herb for what you get for the money.

>

> On Andrographis I use whole herb powder, Plum Flower also.

>

> Thanks,

> Jim.

> ###

>

Thank You Jim,

It's very helpful for me!

So...Did You take 4x4 capsules of concentrated 5:1 resveratrol?

It seems that Buhner haven't wrote anything about concentrated forms

of andro and resv, has he?

Jurek

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Jurek:

I never got up to 4 times a day, so I only took 4 capsules for 3 times a

day, for about 5.5 months. I am now at 3 capsules, 2 times a day.

I always take my herbs with my meals. And I did NOT want to eat 4 meals a

day.

Jim.

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Thank You Jim,

It's very helpful for me!

So...Did You take 4x4 capsules of concentrated 5:1 resveratrol?

It seems that Buhner haven't wrote anything about concentrated forms

of andro and resv, has he?

Jurek

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Hope all goes well for you,

Jim.

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djur1 <djur1@...> wrote:

Ok, thank's for advices.

I can't use source naturals resveratrol, because I have diarhea even

from ONE TABLET daily ! I checked it few times and it's for sure.

Ok, so I order normal powdered.

:)

Jurek

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I still got the same problem than you, but I take the tea from whole

herb and then just lower the number of gulps each time. Taking lots at

once gives me this GI problem...

I'm using it together with chlorella/ MSM/ bear garlic/ Chitosan combo.

I just take 3 gulps from a light JKnotw tea and so far it's working

like that. I'm taking it about 4-5 times a day, exactly like I take

other cleansers, not like B suggests and I find it's working sooo well

that I'll continue doing this. I muscle tested it to see if it goes

well combined, it tests wonderful. And my body craves this Jap Knotweed

many times a day (more than 3-4 times B suggests), but always in lower

amounts. Similar like Chlorella.

Selma

>

> Ok, thank's for advices.

> I can't use source naturals resveratrol, because I have diarhea even

> from ONE TABLET daily ! I checked it few times and it's for sure.

>

>

> Ok, so I order normal powdered.

> :)

> Jurek

>

>

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